Children - Fertility - Adoption Parents' charts showing acquisition of children (biological or adoptive) |
Fra Angelico. l'Annunciazione. c.1432-1434. Museo Diocesano, Cortona, Italy |
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BPHS Putra Bhava Putra Bhava, ruled by Ravi PoliticsParents Guru Chandra |
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~~ Kahlil Gibran |
You may give them your love but not your thoughts. For they have their own thoughts. You may house their bodies but not their souls. For their souls dwell in the house of tomorrow, which you cannot visit, not even in your dreams. |
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~~ Lao Tzu |
It gives birth to them and nurtures them, It gives birth to them but does not possess them, It rears them but does not control them, This is called "mysterious integrity." |
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Child Indicators: |
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Fertility Indicators: |
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If a child lives with criticism, one learns to condemn. If a child lives with praise, one learns to appreciate. If a child lives with hostility, one learns to fight. If a child lives with tolerance, one learns to be patient. If a child lives with ridicule, one learns to be shy. If a child lives with encouragement, one learns confidence. If a child lives with shame, one learns to feel guilty. If a child lives with approval, one learn to like oneself. If a child lives with fairness, one learns justice. If a child lives with security, one learns to have faith. If a child lives with acceptance and friendship, one learns to find love in this world. |
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~ Jaimini Sutram, Ch. 4, shloka 1 |
The children born to woman are her qualifications and these are to be judged from the fifth houses from her Janma Lagna, Atmakaraka, Jupiterand the Sun. |
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~~BPHS Ch. 1, shloka 3 |
If the lords of lagna and putra bhava are in their own houses, or in an angle or trine, one will enjoy happiness through children. |
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-- BPHS Ch. 16, shloka 1-3 |
Should the Lord of Putra (5th house) be combust or be with malefics and be weak, there will be no children; even if perhaps issues are obtained, they will soon quit this world. |
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~~Jaimini Sutram ((Trans. P.S. Sastri, Ranjan Publications, New Delhi, 1987) |
Ch. 4, Shloka 40. the Atmakaraka and the lord of the Lagna are also the significators of children. |
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| Das comments on conditions = Jupiter conjoins the lord of the 5 or Jupiter is aspected by the lord of the 5 or the lord of the 5 is aspected by Jupiter or 5 is aspected by Jupiter: |
"The birth of children is highly likely, especially during Jupiter periods." |
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| ~~ BPHS Ch. 30, Shloka 23-30 "Indications of Upa Padaa" : |
"O Brahmin, all these effects be deduced from
So say Narada and others. If Shani, Chandra and Budha are together in the 9th from one of the said places.
while Surya, Guru and Rahu so placed
Chandra so placed
while a mixture of Graha
The son, caused by the Yuti of Surya, Guru and Rahu,
If Mangala and Shani are in the said 9th,
In all these cases
O Brahmin, if Simha happens to be Upa Padaa and receives a Drishti from Chandra,
Similarly Kanya
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| Parental Relationship with Children |
Material-social results for children should be judged from the lord of the 5th-from parent's radix lagna and from character of Guru. Material-social results include a child's power to successfully incarnate, their health and profession, their wealth and their marriages etc.
Emotional results particularly the happiness of the child-parent relationship and general fortune of the child should be judged from the parent's Chandra lagna.
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As a rule the first child will be born during the Vimshottari dasha periods of:
Typically conception of the first live child will occur during a key transit of gochara Rahu-Ketu which contacts:
After the first child has been born, a second child can occur under a variety of subsequent child-positive bhukti peridos. (The rules are a little more flexible for subsequent children.)
One way to determine if additional children will arrive, is to examine the radix of child-1.
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Miscarriage and Therapeutic Abortion
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Vimshottari periods of radix L-6 = 2nd-from-5th and (less often) L-11 = 7th-from-5th = both natural abortion (miscarriage) or therapeutic abortion (medically assisted) . As lords of 2nd-from-putra bhava and 7th-from-putra-bhavaL-6+L-11 are the temporal karakas for death of children. To be a strong karaka for Natural Abortion or Therapeutic Abortion, the graha who is radix L-6+L-11 should have some additional malefic qualities. This malefic graha should be either:
Rahu = karaka for sudden or wild changes. Periods of Rahu can amplify the experience of either natural abortion (miscarriage) or therapeutic abortion (medically assisted)
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~~ BPHS Ch. 30, Shloka 32 "Indications of Upa Padaa" : |
"If Shukra is in the 3rd, or the 11th from Lagna Pada,
Same is the effect,
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~~ H. H. Dalai Lama |
Compassion is the desire for another to have freedom from suffering. Love is the desire for another to have happiness. |
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If Putra's lord is in Ari Bhava, the native will obtain such sons who will be equal to his enemies, or will lose them, or will acquire an adopted or purchased son. - BPHS, Ch 24, shloka 54 If Mangala and Shani are in the 9th, there will be no son, or a son will be obtained by adoption, or brother's son will come in adoption. ~~ BPHS Ch. 30, Shloka 23-30 "Indications of Upa Padaa" |
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Timing of adoption of children, whether they are adopted at birth or school age or even nearly adults, will be identical with timing of arrival of natural children. That is, adoption of the first child occurs during periods of:
See this example of vimshottari dasha timing of Acquisition of three school-age stepchildren. In this case, the stepmother's child-karaka planets give the expected timing, even for late-in-life acquisition of older stepchildren. |
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Judge the material attributes of the child such as their bodily appearance, their wealth, their spouse, their profession etc.from the mother's radix lagna. Judge the quality of the psycho-emotional relationship between the mother and each child by measuring from Chandra lagna. (Usually the psycho-emotional relationship is much more potent than the physical.)
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Additional considerations for locating children in the parental nativity: |
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| Judging the character of a child from the mother's chart |
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Certain planetary combinations are distinctively inauspicious for producing children. These combinations typically result in the creative energies being diverted into non-procreative creativity - e.g., the native may produce great works of art, theatrical performance, spiritual achievement, leadership service, or other glorious outcome. With Aputra yoga, the prognosis for fleshly children is dim. Aputra yoga is not guaranteed to prevent children, however. Very favorable Guru who casts drishti to bhava-5 or bhava-9, combined with a period of Guru located in an angle or trine from the Mahadasha pati, can indeed produce a child, even with Aputra yoga existing in the nativity. This is usually a "surprise" child born to a long-infertile couple, or a couple who have been told that they cannot conceive, who have typically resigned themselves to childlessness. Not only can a strong Guru overcome Aputra Yoga, but also L-5 in 6 is known to create a healthy child who develops animosity toward the native, and if the graha are acquisitive+ L-5 in 6 can indicate a "purchased" or adopted child. In the old days in European culture (and still common enough in villages in traditional lands) a family without sons could pay to acquire a child. The acquired son might work as an indentured servant or trade apprentice (6) but such a child after their training was completed could also legally inherit their custodian's business.. |
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| - BPHS, Ch 24, shloka 54 |
"If Putra's lord is in Ari Bhava, the native will obtain such sons who will be equal to his enemies, or will lose them, or will acquire an adopted or purchased son." |
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Remedies: |
Gemstones for Guru and the L-5 may be helpful. Seva offered in settings with many small children and in service to mothers of small children may also be quite helpful. |
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Anapatya Yoga |
to deny children, all the following graha must be weak:
"Anapatya" is an excellent yoga for celibate religious practice in a quiet monastic community. The native is blessed with a natural humility. Vocationally, one may be called into any form of selfless service except teaching. (Teaching requires a strong Guru and a fairly strong L-1 too.) |
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"Motherhood has meant that I have written four fewer books, but I know much more about life. " -- A. S. Byatt |
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Q: Hello Barbara, I have been feasting on your jyotish
website. Oh my, it's a treasure indeed. Studying Jyotish has
helped me very much the past few months.
I am addressing various upheavals and
troubles now due to a divorce and death of my eldest adult
child. My question for you is about abortion. Maybe it's the
stress of this divorce and all the changes in my life now, but
I have been deeply thinking about an abortion I had as a very
young woman, in a situation where I wanted the child but the
child's father was hostile to the pregnancy (and to me). So,
two of my children are dead now. .I am feeling so much grief.
Through the years I have gone through the suffering
of regretting that abortion. I have come to a degree of self
forgiveness, and forgiveness of the father, who pushed me into
that decision. But in reading about karma, I do wonder
where I stand. Can you say anything about the jyotish view of
abortion? It is so prevalent now. What does it portend for
humanity? What, except for suffering the regret, and sharing
one's story, can a soul do? Why is it even prevalent in
India now? I know you are busy, and hope when you
have time you can answer my question. Thanks for writing up
the website.I love your mind! |
A: Namaste, Thanks very much for your compliments on the website and thanks for your reflections. I'm not sure what it "portends for humanity" but from a Jyotisha perspective, therapeutic abortion is no different than natural miscarriage. Abortion has been practiced in all cultures from time immemorial. Sometimes less, sometimes more - but as a social practice it is always present. Jyotisha simply records and predicts events. The most accurate predictor of miscarriage regardless of the intention behind it is Mangala in association with putra bhava, bhava-5. Mangala in 5 in a rashi of Shani, for example, is a classic predictor for pregnancies which do not end in live births. By contrast, Guru drishti to bhava-5 will nearly guarantee at least one live child, even for a woman who has a tragic history of child-loss. From a Jyotisha point of view, the mother has karma, and the fetus has karma. Karma is the "work" required to transform ignorance into wisdom. If it is thechild's karma (work) to function in a fetal environment for a few days or months then abandon that form and move to some other form (such as a dream form, on the astral plane) then that is simply what the script says. As a general rule, even if deflected by intentional abortion and even multiple abortions, a motivated child-spirit will keep coming back.The mother-child bond is very intense and valuable. Spirits will work hard to gain entry, even when material circumstances on earth seem hostile to their birth. Therefore one of your later live children was quite likely a second attempt by the same spirit who had the abortion karma inyour previous pregnancy. Jyotisha does not ascribe praise or blame to actions.Individual Jyotisha writers however do impose their own judgments on human actions. I was just reading BV Raman the other day. He was going on about Sasya Yoga for Saturn and how most of the hideous profits made in India by those who ruthlessly exploit the lower classes must be made by men with Sasya yoga. He is probably right about the correspondence between those actions and that yoga; he is also not afraid to judge these humanactions as immoral. My own view values compassion more than judgment, although I sometimes slip into judgment myself. I suspect everyone does : ) The main complication with abortion from my perspective is actually not the karma of abortion itself (it is simply an action in a script) but rather the psychic burden of guilt that a person may accept if Shani (human law judgment) is stronger than Surya ((divine law confidence). Guilt is crippling; it is a marvelous tool of institutional control (Shani); and it is completely unnecessary. A big part of 'enlightenment' is'disemburdenment' from the dual weights (Shani) of guilt and grief. Compassion for self (Surya) may be the next step toward building enough confidence (Surya) to get off the torture-wheel of prescribed guilt. Best wishes for your success in Jyotisha studies, Sincerely, Barbara Pijan Lama, Jyotisha |
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One young academically excellent person went to apply for a managerial position in a big company. He passed the first interview, the director did the last interview, made the last decision. The director discovered from the CV that the youth's academic achievements were excellent all the way, from the secondary school until the postgraduate research, never had a year when he did not score.
The director asked, “Where did your mother work?" The youth answered, "My mother worked as clothes cleaner. The director requested the youth to show his hands. The youth showed a pair of hands that were smooth and perfect. The director asked, “Have you ever helped your mother wash the clothes before?" The youth answered, "Never, my mother always wanted me to study and read more books. Furthermore, my mother can wash clothes faster than me.
The youth felt that his chance of landing the job was high. When he went back, he happily requested his mother to let him clean her hands. His mother felt strange, happy but with mixed feelings, she showed her hands to the kid. The youth cleaned his mother's hands slowly. His tear fell as he did that. It was the first time he noticed that his mother's hands were so wrinkled, and there were so many bruises in her hands. Some bruises were so painful that his mother shivered when they were cleaned with water. This was the first time the youth realized that it was this pair of hands that washed the clothes everyday to enable him to pay the school fee. The bruises in the mother's hands were the price that the mother had to pay for his graduation, academic excellence and his future. After finishing the cleaning of his mother hands, the youth quietly washed all the remaining clothes for his mother. That night, mother and son talked for a very long time. Next morning, the youth went to the director's office. The Director noticed the tears in the youth's eyes, asked: " Can you tell me what have you done and learned yesterday in your house?"
The youth said, Number 1, I know now what is appreciation. Without my mother, there would not the successful me today. Number 2, by working together and helping my mother, only I now realize how difficult and tough it is to get something done. Number 3, I have come to appreciate the importance and value of family relationship. The director said, “This is what I am looking for to be my manager. I want to recruit a person who can appreciate the help of others, a person who knows the sufferings of others to get things done, and a person who would not put money as his only goal in life. You are hired. Later on, this young person worked very hard, and received the respect of his subordinates. Every employee worked diligently and as a team. The company's performance improved tremendously.
He would be ignorant of his parent's efforts. When he starts work, he assumes that every person must listen to him, and when he becomes a manager, he would never know the sufferings of his employees and would always blame others. For this kind of people, who may be good academically, may be successful for a while, but eventually would not feel sense of achievement. He will grumble and be full of hatred and fight for more. If we are this kind of protective parents, are we really showing love or are we destroying the kid instead?* |
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Kindergarten Boots Did you hear about the teacher who was helping one of her kindergarten students put his boots on? He asked for help and she could see why. With her pulling and him pushing, the boots still didn't want to go on. When the second boot was on, she had worked up a sweat. She almost whimpered when the little boy said, "Teacher they're on the wrong feet." She looked, and sure enough, they were. It wasn't any easier pulling the boots off than it was putting them on. She managed to keep her cool as together they worked to get the boots back on - this time on the right feet. He then announced, "These aren't my boots." She bit her tongue rather than get right in his face and scream, "Why didn't you say so?" like she wanted to. Once again she struggled to help him pull the ill-fitting boots off. He then said, "They're my brother's boots. My Mom made me wear them." She didn't know if she should laugh or cry. She mustered up the grace to wrestle the boots on his feet again. She said, "Now, where are your mittens?" He said, "I stuffed them in the toes of my boots..." |
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