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One stillborn, then two healthy births


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The tragic stillbirth of this woman's first child was soon followed by two healthy childbirths.

he first, stillborn pregnancy was medically attributed to a late-term malfunction of the placenta.

Her live children were quite sickly in infancy (in and out of hospitals) and weak in their pre-school years (often sick with colds).

However both kids recovered full vitality during school age. Toward middle school they began to be interested in sports, and one became a competitive athlete.

Both live kids graduated from college, married, and matured into working professionals with families of their own.

(Also, the female native's own parivartamsha yoga of L-2 + L-3 has generated substantial material wealth over time.)


5th-from-lagna
The good and bad of L-5 Kuja
  • Vrischika - contains the Maraka L-7 Vargottamsha Shani (negative)
  • Shani = L-6 from Chandra
  • Vrischika = naturally afflicted by co-rulers Kuja + Ketu (negative)
  • putra bhava = 3rd-from-Chandra (neutral)
  • 1st child is represented by house-5 which contains Shani with no benefic aspect and L-5 Mangala is damaged in numerous ways; auspice is poor

Mangala
  • YogakarakaL-5+L-10Mangala = moudhya , within one degree of Surya (negative)
  • L-5 = weakened in the sign of His enemy, Budha - and Budha is strong in parivartamsha-caused uchcha status (negative)
  • Kuja= lord of D-7 Saptamsha; Kuja also occupies the saptamsha lagna (positive)
  • Kuja = yuti maraka L-2 Surya in radix, navamsha, saptamsha AND trimshamsha
  • Mangala the lord of D-7 = in D-1, yuti Guru + Chandra (positive)
  • Kuja also has the lowest degree of the 4 Kanya Graha. Therefore Kanya does the bidding of Surya, Chandra, and Guru.
9th-from-lagna
  • in Meena, a rashi of Guru (very slightly positive)
  • Guru casts fertile drishti upon His swakshetra = dharma bhava (very positive, particularly for a third child)

Chandra
  • L-5+ L-9, Guru and Chandra are all together, receiving with no drishti (positive)
  • in bhava-3 radix (neutral, upachaya = improves with time)
  • Chandra in Kanya rashi = His lord is well disposed; lord Budha receives virtual uchcha status through parivartamsha with Surya
5th-from-Chandra
  • Makara - natural and temporal maraka L-7 Shanioccupies bhava-5 in a hostile rashi (negative)
9th-from-Chandra
  • Vrishabha - lord Shukra = afflicted by Rahu
Guru
  • Guru = the child-karaka. Guru brings fertility and and expansion to all that He controls. Guru's child-positive agency can "trump" many child-negative conditions during Guru periods.

  • Guru = nine degrees from Surya = not moudhya.

  • Guru = yuti L-5 Kuja (positive)

  • Guru yuti exalted Chandra in navamsha (husband is fertile)

  • Guru = L-6, health problems -- Stillbirth occurred in L-6+L-9 Guru/Guru period.

5th-from-Guru
  • bhava-7 Makara = neutral
  • bhava-7 = 5th-from-Chandra- auspicious for a second child
9th-from-Guru
  • bhava-9 Vrishabha =9th-from-Chandra = auspicious for a third child
  • lord of 9th-from-Chandra = Shukra+Rahu = afflicted

Lord of Saptamsha
  • see L-5 Kuja, above

Current mahadasha pati
  • L-6/ L-9Guru = a trouble-makerin matters of childrenas L-6, but can also produce children = L-9

  • Guru = lord of 4th and 7th from Chandra (positive)


Shani is clearly a trouble-maker for children. But look how strong is lagnesha Moon in shad-bala.

This woman wants to be a Mother! She will find a way to have children.

That way will be partly faith (Guru) and partly endurance (Shani).


ch5_dasha1.GIFFirst child stillborn:

  • First pregnancy occurs in the typical period of Guru/Guru, normally a very auspicious time to begin building a family
  • L-9 Guru is strong to give fertility; but as L-6 Guru gives imbalance, illness, and dissolution of agreements, particularly disregard of advice. the native reportedly did not follow medical advice regarding her pre-natal diet (Kanya).
  • Saptamsha D-7 = Shani's influence provided a harsh separation by death, and considerable fear and worry regarding children throughout Guru Mahadasha
  • Due to Guru's power to evoke Shaniin matters of children, makara Shani's location in putra bhava becomes exceptionally inauspicious
  • Guru/Guru period, where Guru gives the Saptamsha effect of Shani, generated the tragic stillbirth of a long hoped-for first child
  • current transit of at time of stillbirth: Rahu/Ketu in Makara/Karka; gochara L-6 Guru in Karka; gochara Shani in 6th house, Dhanus
  • Both Guru(children) andKetu (detachment) crossing mother's radix lagna; the medical issue was detached placenta
  • From Ari bhava, gochara Shani casts drishti upon L-9 Guru+ L-5 Kuja+ L-2 Surya, and L-1 Chandra
  • Thus L-7 Shani casts drishti upon the three central child factors+ L-1+ L-5+ L-9 - and exacerbates the separative death function of L-2
  • Gochara Shani empowered by Guru, creates maternal health problem which causes stillbirth. Sadly, placental failure caused the baby to die in utero within a week of expected delivery.

Second child, healthy birth:

  • Guru/Shani period.
  • Shani becomes extremely strong for good and ill during his bhukti as gochara Shani moves into swakshetra Makara
  • gochara Rahu-Ketu, gochara Guru, and gochara Shanihad all advanced into the next rashi
  • 2nd child is represented by house-7 which is owned and aspected by Shani while also receiving the benefic aspect of Guru. A house is strengthened by aspect from its lord. Kalatra bhava is a strong house.
  • L-9 Guru continues to fertilize during his 16-yr mahadasha.
  • Rahu/Ketu in Sagittarius/Gemini
  • gochara Shani in Makara = Capricorn- from the 7th house transiting Shani aspects house-9, the mother's lagna, and house-4.
The 7th house is still a death house, but Shani in his own sign is calmly realistic, skillful, and cautious. The second pregnancy was inordinately stressful, with numerous medical interventions and cautious pessimism regarding outcome.

Birth was difficult but the mother and her physicians were tremendously careful And Shani rewarded their caution. The placenta had deteriorated early giving rise to negative expectations. However with excellent supporting care, the fragile second child was healthy.


Jan van Eyck c. 1441, Madonna von Lucca,  Maria lactans


Third child, healthy birth:

  • Guru/Budha period has arrived.
  • Budha gives saptamsha effect of radix L-1 Moon who is yuti L-5 Kuja and L-5 Guru
  • 3rd child is represented by house-9which is owned and aspected by auspicious Guru.
  • Dharma bhava receives additional child-positive aspects from L-5 Kuja and L-1 Moon.
  • Hostile aspect from L-2 Surya.
  • A house is strengthened by aspect from its lord. This is a strong house made double-strong during the mahadasha of its lord Guru.
  • The mahadasha of L-9 Guru obtains for 16 years and during this entire era she is fertile
  • gochara Rahu-Ketu, gochara Guru, and gochara Shanihad all shifted - again- into the next rashi
  • Rahu-Ketu Rahu-Ketu in Scorpio/Taurus - A very dicey axis too considering VargottamshaVrischika Shani and Vrischika lagna in saptamsha
  • gochara Guru "return" in Virgo - strengthens Guru

    • It is very favorablethat Guru, the empowered mahadasha-pati, should transit into Mercury's house during the Guru/Budha period
    • extra benefits from the fact that in Kanya, gochara Guru will expand L-5 Mars and maternal-Chandra
  • gochara Shani in Kumbha = Aquarius- still a dangerous place, because from the 8th house Shani casts drishti to houses 10, 2, and 5. However, Shani in his own house is detached and cautious; and He does not from Kumbha cast drishti upon house-9 representing child-3.
The third birth was again difficult and the child was exceptionally fragile. Yet again all concerned were tremendously careful And - a keynote of Aquarius, emotionally detached from a very uncertain outcome.

Again, Shani rewarded their scientific awareness. The placenta deteriorated once again, showing the terrible impact of Shani in Scorpio - the sign of sexual reproduction - in the mother's 5th house.

However with excellent supporting care including extended hospitalization, the fragile third child was healthy.


These children have had some health concerns. However they receive excellent care from parents, teachers, and physicians - especially their devoted mother. They have enjoyed a pleasant, normal childhood in a loving community.

The auspice of maraka Shani in putra bhava with no benefic aspect is clearly unfavorable for the first child. In practical terms Shani's influence on putra bhava including Guru's empowerment of Shani from Saptamsha, has made raising the two healthy children a careful affair, full of close attention and worry at times.

Yet yuvati and dharma bhava which represent the second and third child are strong houses. Those children survived difficult births under Guru's protection, and they will no doubt enjoy long and productive lives due to the fundamental strength of their rashi bhavas as seen through the mother's chart.

Notable obstacles may arise regarding either the mother's sexual-reproductive system or the children's health, as the mother completes her Guru Mahadasha and enters the reign of Shani, when the children enter the more challenging middle and high-school years.

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updated:14 March 2012

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