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Guru in

Kumbha * Ghata

Jupiter in Aquarius


growth and expansion of social-economic network

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Public Figures


Guru in bhava-1 * dig-bala * multiple social attributes * growth of flesh-body


Guru in bhava-2 * multiple voices = family, history, language


Guru in bhava-3 * multiple businesses * many announcements

  • "Dittohead" political radio commentator Rush Limbaugh + Chandra yuti Rahu


Guru in bhava-4 * multiple settlements, multi-roots- property, roots, homeland


Guru in bhava-5 * multiple intelligences * entertainment, politics


Guru in bhava-6 * multiple service ministries* multiple enemies * * multiple health problems * multiple arguments


Guru in bhava-7 * multiple alliances


Guru in bhava-8 * multiple secrets

  • USA Pres-12, Mexican-American War Gen. Zachary Taylor yuti Rahu * harsha yoga * parivartamsha L-8 Shani

  • 3 time Calif. gov. Jerry Brown parivartamsha L-8 Shani-9

  • Archbishop of Canterbury 2002-2012 Rowan Williams


Guru in bhava-9 * multiple doctrines


Guru in bhava-10 * multiple social responsibilities


Guru in bhava-11 * multiple goals


Guru in bhava-12 * multiple sanctuaries, many intuitions

Belief in Human Development via human social-economic networks

the connective, lateral, distributive, associative, opportunistic, gainful rashi of Kumbha = a neutral environment for priestly Brihaspati

  • Guru sees Makara-pati Shani as samagraha = neutral..

  • Landlord Shani sees tenant Guru as samagraha = neutral.

  • results depend largely upon Guru's bhava and the character of Shani


Kumbha lays out a latticework pattern of linked hubs that can be infused with Guru's optimistic generous inclusive humanistic energy. However the trick with this placement is that the means and methods must be explicitly non-political. Guru-Kumbha supports expansion of economic participation for previously ineligible classes, by means of legally linking the previous "ex-lig" out-of-the-law groups into the expanding network.

Best results from a philosophy of social progress that is proletarian, regularized, scientific and ideologically neutral.

Past-life carry-forward wisdom about networks: social, scientific, logical, electronic, cosmic, conceptual -- every variety and configuration of structured connectivity.

Believes in material science . Atheistic or agnostic. Very little natural or pure faith in divine. Faith is intermediated by mentally produced truth constructs.


Expansive Brihaspati gives many acquaintances and a natural affinity for electro-magnetic device networks such as the modern internet and electronic systems overall.

the native is a conceptual thinker who easily understands that there are many interconnected relationships between components of a large orderly system.

Guru in Kumbha does not provide specific logic (the logic-giver is Budha) however Guru Kumbha grants a compassion for all peoples based in the philosophical understanding of interconnectedness.


Not a relaxed person but often a productive one.

Guru = inclusive and expansive while Shani = punitive and constricting. Expansive Guru in a rashi of contracting Shani is a difficult fit.

For the great thinkers, graha Guru may signal a person Guru who teaches about Time - especially about very-large-scale "esoteric" Time =

Guru-Kumbha = often a Futurist with a "cosmic" viewpoint.

Enjoys an optimistic expectation of positive resulting forthcoming from philosophical and conceptual science.

There may be an extensive network of associations which includes people from all parts of the marketplace of goods and ideas, including numerous 'fringe' visionaries and abstract thinkers.

If Budha and Shani are well placed Guru-Kumbha can manifest social progress visions in the material world with considerable efficacy.

  • 3 time California governor Jerry Brown = Social visionary, huge political network, philosopher, loves science, futurist. Governor Brown's Guru enjoys parivartamsha + L-8 Shani-9. Brown had a number of failed political campaigns due largely to being perceived as a fringe thinker (8, occult) but overall his social-justice ideological (9) programs have been successful. In addition to serving as turnaround mayor who rehabilitated (8) a previously failed city (Oakland CA) Brown was elected governor of California 3 times (multiple rebirth, Guru-8).

Otherwise, the social-ordering emphasis of Guru-Kumbha tends to reduced access innate wisdom.

Prosperity in material things; greatly expanded linkage brings economic gain from populism and dealing with very large audiences

  • populist "Dittohead" radio political commentator Rush Limbaugh yuti Rahu

  • popular style icon Marilyn Monroe

  • "Top Gun" dramatist Tom Cruise appeals to a broad demographic spectrum, both genders; his cinematic persona has a egalitarian quality spanning several decades and many top-earning film roles

  • Sainte Bernadette Soubirous of Lourdes appealed to the piety of the people with her innocent, non-literate peasant persona

  • man of the people Archbishop of Canterbury 2002-2012 Rowan Williams

Tends to be a conceptual scientist without much happiness from ritual acts of faith. Philosophy is expansive but regulated by scientific principle rather than faith, producing a dry and potentially inhumane programme of social regulation.

Occasionally generates serious mental effort. Less mundane bondage and more conceptual bondage than Guru-Makara.

If Guru is otherwise damaged, the native may become committed to the development of grand but rigid conceptual schemes which have the potential to be quite harmful since they lack compassion.


science teaching on the topic of Time - especially about very-large-scale "esoteric" Time

example Guru Kumbha sahaja bhava

Q: My lagnesha Guru in Kumbha - will it give "good" results?

A:

Every placement in Jyotisha is "good" for some purposes and possibly less good for other purposes.

Whether the graha contributes to the native 's wisdom and happiness life will depend upon the nature of the person's conscious and unconscious social-material goals and values, conscious and unconscious emotional expectations and reactions, and conscious spiritual beliefs.

Auspicious Lagnesha

The lagnesha gains dignity in a kundali as the lord of the flesh-body. Lagnesha = the regulator of vitality and the determiner of social talent.

Lagnesha = a trine lord (trines = kona = bhava 1, 5, 9) which contains instructions on how to manifest a precious physical body, how to manage its vital energies, and how to grow a social personality.

These are great powers and clearly you have obtained them since you have manifested a body and maintained it for several decades!

  • As lord of bandhu bhava, Guru grants empowerment in matters of real-estate, property ownership, schooling, and parents.

  • In Kumbha, Brihaspati gives many friends and a natural affinity for electro-magnetic device networks such as the modern internet and electronic systems overall. the native is a conceptual thinker who easily understands that there are many interconnected relationships between components of a large orderly system. Guru in Kumbhadoes not provide specific logic (the logic-giver is Budha) however Guru Kumbha grants a compassion for all peoples based in the philosophical understanding of interconnectedness.

  • In bhava-3, Guru opens the mind to a variety of administrative processes, grants positive mental health, and is generally good for commercial business.

  • Receiving friendly drishti of Surya + inimical drishti of Shukra+ L-1+L-4 wisdom-teacher Guru receives confidence (from Surya) and handsome appearance with some taste for luxuries (from Shukra). The Guru-Shukra relationship is always problematic because Guru who values philosophy always tries to call our attention to the planes of higher consciousness, whereas Shukra who values sensual pleasure is always trying to call our attention to sources of bodily pleasure such as visual beauty, food, and touch.

As lord of the Uttarabhadrapada Chandra inside of Meena as well as being Himself in the Meena navamsha, Guru brings parenthood and compassionate willingness to shelter both elders and the very young.

As lord of 11th and 2nd from Chandra lagna, Guru grants material treasures in the form of both income (11) and savings (2).

Dharmakaraka Guru is a natural teacher, father (L-4, lord of parental chandra) and friend (L-11 from Chandra).

Overall Brihas-pati brings many, many blessings.

Yet, like all graha, Guru has some draining functions.

  • Lord of the lagna is always a dignified graha who brings life-force vitality, yet in the logic of the Jyotisha nativity, lord of Tula bhava (1st house) is naturally the drainer-dissolver of the 2nd house (dhana bhava) of family history.

  • Guru occupies bhava-3, the bhava 12th from 4th (roots). During His Vimshottari periods friendly encourages the person toward independent life and away from the ethnic-lineage values of the family. Under Guru's influence during Guru's periods, the native might move away from their ancestral home and establish a new home elsewhere.

Is it a "bad" move to strike out from the ancestral lineage customs and historic lands, toward an individualized lifestyle perhaps in a new country?

  • Usually the native does not find it bad, but rather invigorating and good.

  • However from the perspective of some of the more conservative members of one's family, Guru's open-minded and commercially positive attitude might seem disrespectful to tradition.

Evaluating the graha - Good and Bad

To make socially weighted value judgments on the results of the graha using a morally critical language of "good" and "bad", we have to consider the values of those different people who interact with the native and judge the native . Some people will judge this Guru as 'good' and some will find it 'bad'.

Bad

  • In the present nativity, Guru is 'bad' for super-conservative cultural activities because Guru likes to talk with persons from different classes who mingle in the marketplace (Kumbha) . Guru is not good for respecting the most conventional social boundaries and He is not especially good for rising to top leadership positions.

  • In bhava-3, Guru is more of a team-worker and less of a Big Boss. Therefore if one's family or peers believe that the only good career is a national or international power-title leadership career, this Guru will not satisfy those career demands.

Good

  • In the present nativity Guru is also exceptionally "good" for commercial business: Brihaspati in Kumbha-3 likes to do business and earn money, especially in matters related to real-estate and vehicles. He is especially gifted in the art of providing explanations and instructions (3). He is good with planning, scheduling, and small-group meetings (3) therefore he does well in virtually any collaborative, cooperative teamwork setting.

  • E.g., Guru excels in adult skills training which is an expression of Guru's teaching powers in an educational environment that emphasizes adult group-learning. Any graha in Kumbha has a natural affinity with large regulated systems and things electrical, therefore in the modern age Kumbha indicates computer systems.

IMO your Guru in the rashi of neutral Shani is a great graha for most earthly purposes. All graha have plus and minus powers.

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