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Om Sham Shanaishcharaye Namah

Shani

in Bandhu Bhava-4

= Shani in 4th navamsha = Shani in 4th-from-Chandra

must hold old roots

Saturn in the Natal Fourth House

 

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Ancient rocky tombs hewn into the mountainside in the village of Myra, old district of Lycia in modern Turkia.

karma of mother and patriotism: shelter, protection, homes, farms, schools, police, vehicles;

defense of the land and continuity of the rhythmic, habitual customs of one's people

resistance to parents and schooling + obligation to protect the root culture

hard work and steady duties upon the land; farming, home-chores, policing

profound sense of responsibility for matters of the home and homeland, yet frustration with duties and often insufficient resources in the household

Matters of kendra bhava-4 = stable and improve withschooling

Impact of Parashari drishti

Conforming to the lowest common denominator

Public Figures


Shani in Mesha * neechchamsha

  • partner of USA Pres-37, Mrs. Thelma Pat Nixon + Rahu


Shani in Rishabha


Shani in Mithuna

  • poet Ezra Pound


Shani in Karkata


Shani in Simha

  • Pres France 1944-1946; 1959-1969 Gen. Charles de Gaulle

  • balladeer Bruce Springsteen


Shani in Kanya


Shani in Thula * uchchamsha = social justice, equality under the Law

  • (from Chandra) Mao Ze Dong

  • dramatist Richard Burton (actor, 1925)

  • Susan Butcher (Iditarod dog race champion)

  • Michael Moore (political films)


Shani in Vrischika

  • dramatist , writer Madonna

  • philosopher, lens grinder Baruch Spinoza + Budha + Surya

  • USA Pres-16, Abraham Lincoln

  • Ernest Hemingway(writer)

  • Maya Angelou (writer)

  • dramatist Tom Hanks

  • partner of USA-Pres-37, Rosalynn Carter


Shani in Dhanushya

  • Barbara Walters (TV journalist)


Shani in Makara = swakshetra


Shani in Kumbha = swakshetra = lawful social-conceptual systems


Shani in Meena


Walt Disney

Shani in Bandhu Bhava-4

  • defensiveness

  • anachronism

  • rigid adherence to an ancient code of conduct

  • nationalization of ethnic custom

  • karma of mother, houses, farming, and homeland

Karma of property ownership, duties and responsibilities for farmlands, struggle and resistance toward popularization or use by the common people of one's properties, heavy labor on the farm

  • the birth family of Mrs. Pat Thelma Nixon owned a series of failed farms, on which the children including her worked all day every day in addition to their schoolwork. her mother died of illness and exhaustion while Pat was in her teens, causing much of the home-duty to fall on Pat's shoulders

  • USA Pres-16, Abraham Lincoln mother died from "Milk Fever" when he was 6. He was raised in wilderness subsistence farming. Also his L-4 Mangala in 12th-from-4th = bhava-3 + Rahu. Very difficult early circumstances.

  • Luckily his L-11 (stepmother) Budha is strong yuti lagnesha Surya . Lincoln acquired a stepmother who was friendly and supportive of him.

insufficient resources and scarcities in matters of the home and homeland, difficulties to manage and prosper in the place of birth, much karma for the mother in terms of isolation, penury, and workload for her,

Obligation to care for the elderly

  • BV Raman's mother died during Shri Raman's first Sade Sati, when he was only a toddler. Shri Raman acquired many home duties including the obligation to care for his aging grandfather during that patriarch's later years of penury, weakness and ill health

Obligation to protect the land, duties of policing, fencing, maintenance of boundaries

resistance to conventional schooling, insufficient resources to enjoy a comfortable home or blocks to successful completion of a course of study, delayed diploma, frustration and delays in the national status, complexities of citizenship or regional identity in resistance to the national identity.

Home duties and home discipline

  • Meryl Streep says she does all her own ironing (and that of her younger children) as a method of staying "normal" (Shani)

Roots

Chandra natural regulator of 4 has no enemies

  • strict, dry Shani sees tolerant, liquid Chandra as an adversary.

Shani gains dignity in kendra;

from 4, Shani casts Parashari drishti upon:

  • 6 which generally strengthens the work ethic and places a pragmatic filter upon the logical argumentation. the native is a practical thinker.

  • 10 which will enhance leadership responsibilities, public reputation and social respect.

  • 1 which asserts the need for regularity and routine in the lifestyle and matches the native 's social personality with activities of law and government.


Discipline, difficulties, and delay= inherent in matters of parenting, schooling, vehicle operation, and protecting the homeland. A structured and regulated parochial lifestyle becomes normalized. the native feels obliged to stay near home and defend the family property. A stable, sober, and rather conservative person, unless Shani + Rahu

  • Often found in local police and sheriff, military guard and government land-protective officers =patriotic duty

Karma of repetitive drill and sloooooow ebb and flow of transformation of ignorance into wisdom = parents, schools, examinations, property ownership, deeds of entitlement, vehicles, home and homeland, patriotic duty, and ethnic roots

Parashari drishti to 6, 10, and 1.

See: dealing with the negative expectations of Shani in bhava-4

All forecasts improve with planetary support from Chandra.


Benefits of Shani in Kendra:

  • in kendra (1, 4, 7, 10) lawful Shani = slow and steady toward material and social success.

  • Shani imposes routines , conventional behavior patterns, predictable environments , and realistic expectations .

  • In kendra, Shani's influence is overall favorable due to the value of regularity in those environments.

Shani social structures = regulated vertical hierarchies (Makara) and lateral systems (Kumbha) . Shani in bhava-4 = protective and sheltering structures. Strictly patriotic, defensive, and regulating.

  • A strong regulator-Shani marks the native as an imposer of local, parochial, customary law of one's ethnic people. May be involved in local law enforcement.

  • A weak Shani = intimidated by oppressive parents or rigid local customs.


Security Anxiety.

Fear and worry regarding the school, home, parents, and place of belonging.

Must work to earn validation of the cultural roots.

  • Works to be fully approved, in compliance, and judged perfect under the rule of human law.

  • Yet survival fears based in past-life karma enforce the mandate to perform this work over and over again, until the ignorance is transformed into wisdom.

" Not grounded enough " syndrome.


  • the native 's lifetime emotional security and schooling may be reduced or slowed down.

Habits of completing educational studies, obtaining title to lands and vehicles, and laying foundations of all kinds are resistant to change. the native who wishes to change one's methods of securing shelter, a vehicle, or a diploma, will find such a project to be slow-going and demanding much time.

Vehicle karma:

Try as one might to change the package of attributes, one's fixed resistance to change will persist.

Good results: although the home is not glamorous, if Shani occupies a hospitable rashi, His kendra position in 4 is auspicious. the native does not shift house too frequently.

There is stability if not prosperity in the childhood home. Elite education may be prevented, but a solid government-supported (Shani) education will be provided. There is stability in the ethnic culture, and sturdy common roots in the land of birth.


Karmic responsibility to attend to the foundations and shelters of life.

  • Sustained hard work is required with elderly parents, insufficiently resourced schools, poor homes and those who live in them, poorly functioning vehicles

  • Vehicle (vahana) karma:: Laura Bush , manslaughter car accident age 17.

Transits

  • When gochara Shani moves across the fourth house from lagna (material) or from Chandra (emotional) one has a sense of having "hit bottom".

  • Approx once every 29.3 years, there is a karmic obligation to return to the basics, the roots, the foundations of one's life.

  • Often, the native is obliged to work on home maintenance or home repairs, or to leave the home, or the home becomes a lonely, isolated place due to "empty nest" syndrome.

  • he best remedy, when Shani affects bhava-4, is to go back to school .


Slow progress in administrative roles with many setbacks and getting pushed down into menial roles or asked to do repetitive work or being consistently underpaid.

Conservative mental outlook, framed as "low expectations of others". Expects to do the lion's share of the work in any team.

Deep frustration in the mental process. The mind moves very slowly. Works hard for their right to participate in meetings and conferences with decision-makers. Takes on secretarial tasks and other humble service. Great deal of writing in this life, much of it in vain or not receiving the recognition it deserves.

If other factors improve things such as drishti from benefics, the discipline for writing and slow laborious thought process will remain. However the native may receive due recognition for their dedicated administrative communications and production-planning service -- over time.

Early responsibilities in the childhood home, often due to loss or disability of the mother. Childhood home and parenting tend toward scarcity and strictness.

Completion of schooling is delayed. Self-education will succeed over time (if the native lives long enough).

Lake Te Anau, South Island, New Zealand

Schooling and early Childhood home; situation of the Parents; rules, security, strictness, predictability, structure

Unless Shani is very well placed, possibility of oppressive trouble with the early home life, early education, and the mother.

Easier rashi placements = Shani-Thula, Shani-Makara, Shani-Kumbha

Easier lagna placements = Thula lagna, Vrischika lagna, Rishabha lagna, Mesha lagna

More supportive placements of Shani-4 generally yield a sturdy home structure:

  • schooling = conventional, populist, plebian, government-regulated 

  • parents may be strict, elderly, or impecunious, but the home-life is well ordered and predictable

More challenging lagna placements for Shani in bhava-4: (count also from Chandra lagna)

  • Simha lagna: Shani L-6 in 4, and Shani = enemy of the lagnesha Surya. However, Shani is also lord of 7th = 4th-from-4th; schooling for purpose of license and diploma is supported. Parents tend to be socially materialistic, practical workers;  education = status acquisition tool.

  • Kanya lagna:  Shani = L-6 in 4 regulating the creativity; intelligence is narrowed but pragmatic; education = job training.

  • Mithuna lagna: Shani = L-8 in 4; however as L-9 Shani brings wisdom even into straightened home circumstances; parents often conventionally religious, emphasizing scriptural study

  • Karkata lagna: Shani = L-8 in 4

  • Dhanushya lagna Shani = L-12 in 4

  • and Makara lagna : Shani = L-12 in 4

Less difficult for Mesha, Vrishabha, Kumbha, and Meena.

  • Fairly good position for Thula lagna (M.Gandhi), where the family home is conservative and conventionalized, but stable.

  • Also good for Vrischika lagna: the education is often stopped just short of completion, but the native may have a solid career ( Brad Pitt )

  • Despite Shani's exaltation in bandhu bhava for Karkata lagna, L-8 Shanaicharya brings the karma of catastrophic-change into bhava-4, and the home life is upset by a mother who is outwardly, in public, respectable -- but inwardly, at home, unpredictable.

  • For Simha lagna, healing energies of the mother are stopped by rigid rules and sexual repression ( Madonna)


  • Frequently Shani-4 = karaka for early loss of the mother, particularly if Shani casts drishti upon Chandra. May be an authoritarian parent, focused on rules exclusively.

    Absentee mothers due to work schedule, divorce, death, illness, or any other cause forces the native to self-parent. If mother is present she is very hard-working and may not have much time to devote to the native 's well-being.

    Native is comfortable in a working class environment; with physical labor; with lower social ranking; with deprivation, routine, and rules.


    the native will have a harsh or rule-driven mother who prefers the discipline of external performance standards to the soft and permissive " unconditional" love of motherhood. Many conditions applied to the native 's acceptability, and the mother is relentless in her constraint.

    When Shani has dignity however a strong moral and material foundation based on solid work ethic and personal responsibility, with deep respect for consequences, is created in the family home. Mother is the agent of moral discipline and character formation.


    Should house-4 receive additional drishti, the family home may be either easier or more difficult. If Shani in 4 receives drishti of Kuja, frustration and tension in the home. With Chandra, a permanent grief from loss of mother. With Shukra, fortune in home management, interior decoration, architectural engineering, other design work - esp. in industrial applications.

    Education

    Shani-4 = reasonably education good results for the native , who generally has at least one disciplined and conformist parent. It is a truism in education that regardless of schools and teachers, the determining factor is educational attainment is the parents.

    (so long as Shani is not in a hostile rashi , such as Madonna or Ernest Hemingway).

    If Shani is well-disposed, one serves as = a social authentication functionary who works the socially approved system of ethnic legitimacy, education, and property ownership. This person must apply sustained effort with limited resources (Shani)oward the maintenance of social and emotional security entitlements such as land and vehicle ownership, licensing and diplomas, regulation of ethnic boundaries, and patriotic defense of the motherland.

    The early childhood home, indoctrination levels of education, property and vehicle acquisition, identification with the mother's cultural roots, and patriotic behaviors are fundamentally stubborn, persistent, conservative and slow.

    Some difficulties or maturation required before obtaining emotional stability (4) health (6) and self-image (1); also restrains career (10). Scarcity and restraint leading to some type of poverty in the early childhood home (may be emotional, material, mental, or spiritual poverty).

    The parents are deeply conservative, isolated, disciplinarians or are absent. One's sense of ethnic belongingness derives mainly from being a worker, and one may feel alienated from the land of one's birth. Deep appreciation for the experience of those who lack food, clothing, and shelter.

    Shani gains dignity in kendra and Shani is a welcome guest in the swabhava ofChandra. This native has a strong work ethic and is respected for maintaining regular habits.

    Typical mistakes due to past-life karmic ignorance

    ShaniFleurBleu.jpgMistakes will tend to be made repeatedly and a long-term burden carried, in the area of property ownership, patriotic actions, education, emotional and physical protection, and understanding the cultural customs of peoples.

    • Shani in kendra has a high rate of success in the task of learning from one's mistakes.

    • Once the early mistakes are corrected, the native institutes a new routine, and surprising emotional success begins to attend the one who seemed earlier to be unable to root and ground into a secure habitation.

    • After the age of 31 (past the first Saturn Return) = good results from matters of the houses ruled by Shani.

      • Elizabeth Taylor= yogakaraka Shani-Makara = L-4 [childhood home, parenting] + L-5 [celebrity, perfection of theatrical craft, birth of children]. Ms. Taylor suffered lifelong emotional struggle due to harsh early parenting with conditional love granted on basis of material performance. Producing children was also a performance expectation given the cultural customs of the day. Ultimately she came to a peaceful inner security.

    Medicine

    Shani's casts 3rd drishti upon Ari Bhava the domain of medical service. When Shani occupies Bandhu bhava esp when Shani has strength, there is often a member of one's household (4) who contributes manual and communicative skills (3rd from) to human services ministry via practice of medicine.

    Nature of Shani being modest, humble, and poor causes such a household member in medical practice to be often underpaid or a volunteer worker. Possibly unrecognized or untitled socially perhaps due to the less elite nature of the clinical training, but nevertheless deeply committed to serve the suffering.

    House and home shelter

    • Shani strong in 4, "an old and drafty house" (usually of stone and wood, strong and well-built but old)

    • Shani drishti to 4 = "an old and drafty house" (usually of stone and wood, often rather skeletal, scarce of space or cramped and old but not distinguished; laborer's quarters.)

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    Winter in the old town of Brugge (Brussells) Belgium


    Shani in bhava-4 = deficiency of foundations

    core areas of initial lack of understanding + required repetition =

    • 4 = secure home
    • 6 = service ministry
    • 10 = public status, government, boss
    • 1 = physical body

    A regulator of systems of protection.

    Karmic pressure

    One is judged according to one's property ownership and caretaking skills.

    Karma of dealing with people who are motherless, insecure, or poorly educated. Faces repeating scarcity of vehicles and property, or those which one can secure are needful of constant repair.

    May be rejected by the mother's ethnicity.

    • Homeopathic polychrest = pulsatilla

    Shani enemy of Chandra = in 4 = good for cultural diversity because Shani resists ethnic basis.


    Four areas of special difficulty caused by karmic necessity to correct a deficiency of roots.

    • Despite following the rules, One never quite fits into the local culture.

    Core Practice Environments which require repetitive drill and careful study:

    • one's own parents and early childhood (4)

    • servants and employees, animals, police, military, physicians, litigators (6)

    • the boss and the government (10)

    • one's own physical body and appearance (1)

    Effects of Shani-4

    Shani is not comfortable in the house of enemy Chandra.

    However no serious harm is done when Shani occupies the bhava of life's foundations, early education, and primary caretakers. It is generally acceptable that routines, conventional behavior patterns, and predictable social and parental expectations should structure and support the childhood experience.

    Parents tend to be relatively elderly and less emotionally available. The child is born when the parents have reached an advanced age according to cultural norms.

    • One experiences one's parents as being 'older than normal'. Possibly also, less resource-rich than normal, having a more demanding work schedule than normal, or being more disciplined than normal. For example the parents rarely seek outside entertainment, and they normally rent rather than own the childhood home.

    As a result, the home life in childhood consists of fairly rigorous routines. The time schedule is important, calendars and 'deadlines' are emphasized, and the quality of early education is rather regimented and conventionalized. Examinations and other proof of social achievement (Shani) are prioritized.

    • If Shani = swakshetra, in Makara or Kumbha, or Shani = uchcha in Thula, the regimentation is beneficial to the native as it provides a foundation of disciplined action and awareness of the impact of Time upon all life processes.

    Duty and responsibility toward the parents, who may become burdensome to the native due to their age, resistance to change, conservatism or ignorance.

    The early childhood home suffers from material scarcity or a persistent fear of being uprooted which penetrates the psychic environment.

    Trouble getting or keeping properties, a feeling of exhaustion from working very hard to maintain a property or possession but losing it in the end due to an underlying fear.

    The parents and early teachers are oppressive and less nurturing, more they understand their duty to enforce the law rather than cultivate childhood happiness.

    Parental Resistance to change

    Despite consistently expressed filial devotion to duty, the parents and birth place are fixed. The "roots" place and its customs may exhibit a persistent resistance to improvement.

    Unable to remain in the birthplace due to professional responsibilities, need to find earnings outside the homeland or hometown. Parents and ethnic people may seem committed to a path of ignorance as an dysfunctional expression of tradition, but this only occurs if the Shani + Ketu ( the native is disconnected from the place) and Shani occupies a hostile rashi. Otherwise a simple oppression of scarcity and time regulation applies to the childhood home and the birthplace in general.

    Some difficulties or maturation required before obtaining financing (6) and bodily vitality (1) as well as prestige (10). Native must remain in their home base (4) because neither the physical energy (1) nor the loaned capital to expand their scope (6) are accessible. There is always a bright side to Shani aspects on dushthamsha houses, which restrict dealings with difficult people.

    This person is hard to please because Shani in 4 restricts emotional contendedness. If such a person is in your life don't take it personally... there's nothing an outsider can do to alleviate their internal oppression.

    When Shani aspects 6, money-lenders, thieves, apothecaries (6) and government officials (10) are kept away. Looks good, but this also means Resistance and delayto getting a mortgage for buying a house, being treated respectfully in public life, or receiving health care. Shani/4 folks lack a good home foundation (often absent mother) and expect to feel vulnerable, weak, ill, and unimportant.

    Emotionally and socially insecure. If Shani rules a good house then the sense of vulnerability might produce a good career in specialties of making others feel sheltered, such as teaching young children or regional political leadership. However the health and scarcity implications are always there.

    Better if Shani occupies a rashi of Shani, Shukra, or Budha. Better with any type of support from Shukra

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    "Lake Baikal in eastern Siberia is the oldest freshwater lake on Earth, and one of the largest and deepest, containing around one-fifth of the world's freshwater. In winter, it freezes over, and these beautiful transparent, turquoise masses of broken ice appear momentarily in March, caused by the unequal structure, temperature and pressure in the main body of the packed ice." --from Science Alert

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    ~~ The Book of Job 22:28

    "The light of the body is the eye:

    therefore when thine eye is single, thy whole body also is full of light;

    but when thine eye is evil, thy body also is full of darkness.

    Take heed therefore that the light which is in thee be not darkness."

    ~~ Gospel of Luke 11:34-35

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