Shukra in sthana-08 Venus in 8th house

Female partner (if any) assists in veiling confidential information and hidden relationships. The marriage partner whether male or female participates in the cover-up.

Males = alternatively, prefer clandestine or mysterious "veiled" relationships

poet of forbidden pleasures, Charles Baudelaire with nearly all of his graha in 8 had many relatively hidden liaisons, most of them female prostitutes, about which he wrote magnificent poetry. He died of syphilis.
Baba Ram Dass recounts having enjoyed a great number of secret relationships, some only brief encounters, during the time when his homosexuality had to be hidden
"Sherlock Holmes" writer Arthur Conan Doyle maintained a 9-year relationship with his paramour while waiting for his ill wife to die. Upon her death, the secret couple married.

Environments = First Encounter with Partner

Shukra-8 meets the marriage-partner:

in confidential circumstances
in an obscured, overcast, heavily clouded, masked, or temporarily darkened environment
in environments designed for mining, diving, drilling, penetration, pursuit of hidden resources
under mysterious, unexpected or surprise circumstances with no warning. Often one is preoccupied with some self-identified task which is the presumed purpose of the event wherein the meeting occurs, so that there is a bit of a psychological shock (8) as the partner seems to "come out of nowhere" and the partner does not seem related to one's present identity.
emergency or disaster events
tantrik initiation setting that invokes the symbolism of re-birth
(if yuti Rahu, utility of serpents e.g., Pentecostal Christian snakes and Hindu kundalini practices)

Shukra-8 may meets the partner in a secretive fashion or a cloudy, darkened environment, perhaps during a catastrophe or crisis in one of their lives. Commonly the catastrophe is related to the death (2) of an alliance contract (7).

Thus in the modern world, the couple often meet in the throes of post-divorce rebirth of identity (8) . Shukra invests qualities of pleasure and wealth into that forward surge and urge toward identity reconstruction (8).
Importantly, the back-story of recovery from a breakup is veiled from the public (8) but the confidential history of a previous relationship is generally a component of the environment of the marriage.
The new mate is apprehended as the key to a new life and lifestyle often significantly more luxurious than the former lifestyle.

Extramarital Affairs

Shukra in 8 likes to conduct relationships incognito, which can lead to a taste for cloudy, camouflaged environments and extramarital affairs.

However there is no inherent prediction for illicit conduct unless Rahu or Mangala = involved in matters of randhra bhava.

Predictions for outcome of randhra bhava should be confirmed via 8th from Chandra and effects of the current Vimshottari Dasha period must be taken into account.

Should conditions support an extra (2) marital (7) affair, there can arise an secrecy-sustaining pattern of both (1) pleasure in maintaining a home for one's children (4th from 5th) and (2) enjoyment from hidden liaisons.
Shukra-8 suggests that while external relations may be deeply sweet and erotic, protecting children is so satisfying (Shukra) that one may maintain a commitment to the marital home which prevents divorce and contraindicates a new marriage.

Terms of contract

Human partnership in general is not a permanent component of the identity unless Shukra = lagnesha.

The marriage contract may mimic the conditions of death, so that Shukra-8 experiences the terms of the life contract as an act of surrender - often involuntary - to forces greater than oneself.

Pleasure from:

pleasure (Shukra) in acquisition of wealth from making contracts and alliances or via re-balancing interior health conditions (2nd from 7th = 7th from 2nd, especially good for legal and medical profession)
pleasure (Shukra) in providing communication about conflicts and accusations, esp litigation (3rd from 6th) = negotiating conflicts or diseased states of mind (6) produced during meetings (3) and daily discourse (3) (6th from 3rd, especially good for legal and medical profession esp psychiatry)
pleasure (Shukra) in providing a protective home for children (4th from 5th) and gambling a bit with one's home life 5th (gambling) from 4th (home) -- see children + Affairs du Coeur, above
pleasure (Shukra) in all things secret, masked, masquerades, veils, camouflage, sudden and shocking events, eruption of deep inner energies, transformation and rebirth, self-discovery, reconstructed or rejuvenated identity (8th from 1st, 1st from 8th)
pleasure (Shukra) private or clandestine religious practices = mysteries, occult, covert motives and hidden energies, death-and-rebirth, 'tantra' (9th from 12th = 12th from 9th). For a male, the wife may be an occultist.

The rashi of bhava-8 will filter the spouse's invasive dynamic. Yet underneath the veneer of marital pleasures, there is an agenda for the lover to penetrate the psyche and control the behavior of the native . (Similar to the way the hunting Shaman is guided to penetrate the life-force psyche of the prey.)

The lover-partner is not always a human person. Sometimes the most intimate companion is a beautiful spirit being.

Shukra-8 may invite camouflaged guiding forces (8) such as spirit-beings to take control (8).

Saint Therese of Lisieux
Christian Science Mary Baker Eddy

Women in one's life - friends, lovers, female relatives - share a psychologically penetrating attractiveness to some extent. Physical intimacy is an intense and potentially catastrophic experience.

Pleasure from hidden liaisons and secret agreements.
Pleasure from sudden, forced changes of identity.
Pleasure from receiving confidences.

incognito love relationships.

Shukra-8 prefers to hide even the conventional aspects of romantic relationships. However the relationships are rarely too placid. There is always something tantric and controlling about their lover.

One may show the public some sort of conventionalized facade, but behind the facade there is intense energy of psychic domination and control.

Benefits from investment in shared-resource pools. Likelihood of nice inheritance, barring hostile drishti.

Pleasured by those whom they have healed, and by other practicing healers.
Many secret admirers.

Splendid placement for emergency medicine, shipwreck recovery divers, water dowsers, cosmetic surgeons, occultists and trauma healers.

Luxurious wealth of secret information.

Pleasure via psychiatry, surgery, confidential or discovery of hidden wealth. Hidden resource management = money laundering, off-shore banking, Swiss banks.

Pleasure obtained via the conditions of death, disaster, emergency and extreme transformations.

Women may be attracted to practice of midwifery, emergency medicine, or cosmetic surgeon. Both genders like secret love affairs.

Not an easy bhava for resident Shukra; yet one may become wealthy via gaining access to the capital of partners.

For example, a 'private banking', tax-evasive, financial investment professional.

Wealth (Shukra) from undisclosed sources

money comes from undocumented sources, possibly through tax evasion

via inheritance from parents (8th = 5th bhagya from 4th parents)

Virginia Woolf

One of the primary social purposes of marriage is to combine the material assets of two families.

When Shukra occupies 8 = in-laws, the spousal family may bring materially valuable assets into the joint assets of marriage.

Further, the spouse is generally quite pleased (Shukra) to make this contribution due to Shukra's agenda for equity. The in-laws will get a fair exchange value for their investment in the native.

The spousal assets are invested in the Shukra-8 native as a device for the spouse's family (8 = 2nd from 7th) to gain leverage (Shukra) in matters represented by Shukra, its rashi, and other conditions of the 8th bhava.

Jacqueline Kennedy Onassis Shukra-Vrishabha-8 = born into a wealthy family. Her husband USA Pres-35 John F. Kennedy introduced even more capital (both financial capital and cultural capital) into the accounts of her family.
Sen. John McCain's second wife hailed from a very wealthy family and that capital-via-marriage significantly bankrolled his many political campaigns.

Shukra-8 indicates that either a considerable inheritance is expected, or the native will marry money (Laura Welch Bush).

Spends money (Shukra) for acquisition of:

concealed schooling for the children (8 = 4th school from 5th children)
confidential commercial transactions with servants (8 = 3rd commerce from 6th servants)
philosophical knowledge of distant worlds (8 = 9th from 12th)
esoteric and mysterious decorative ornaments
financial services which camouflage or obscure the wealth holdings
magic spells, tantric literature, love potions (esp if yuti Rahu)
secret pleasures (per the rashi of Shukra)
emergency supplies, disaster-response materials
properties and accounts which are concealed from view
development of relationships that enhance the acquisition of confidential information
hidden or incognito pleasure relationships, esp with women
relationships that offer initiation to transformative knowledge
alliances which facilitate transformation of the identity
alliances which facilitate access to the stored wealth (capital) of the partner

Both male and female

Whether male or female, one enjoys an aesthetic attraction to obscure and occult knowledge, especially the understanding of hidden relationships between people, places, and things.

Not necessarily an indication of infidelity, but rather a signal that in this native's love life, there is more than meets the eye

Jaimini Dara-karaka in bhava-8 = similar to Shukra in bhava-8

For both male and female,

The women in one's life can be intensely controlling and psychologically invasive.
Luxurious pleasures (Shukra) under camouflage, via intrigue and using confidential arrangements.

Conditions of Death = randhra bhava

Flesh-death occurs in a pleasant place, attended with sense-soothing delights such as refreshing baths and anointment with fragrant oils.

If Shukra's lord is favorable, death occurs in a holy place, supported by harmonious companions and counselors.

Often, the beloved is present at time of death.

instrumental causes of death include wealth and sensual pleasure.

Gustatory Taste, Gifted Luxuries

Selecting a gift for the native with Shukra in 8?

These folks enjoy the pleasures of occult knowledge, discovery of hidden resources, and insight into the traumatic, sudden shocks of life.

If Budha accompanies Shukra-8, there may be an intellectual interest in the conditions of death-and-rebirth.

Accouterments of the mystery-loving life, such as gracious appointments for the emergency-trauma survival kit or other luxurious items of art and music which enhance the refinement of one's understanding of cycles of death and rebirth, will be much appreciated gifts.

Shukra-8 enjoys

mystery, transformation, healing, hidden information, secrets, and tantra; occult studies;

aesthetic

exploratory, uncovering, unveiling, penetrating, transformative, psychiatric.

Characteristics of the Environment where ones meets the life-partner(s):

while handling hidden, secret, or confidential matters
emergencies and disasters
diving, mining
discovery of hidden resources
healing environments, surgery
gender reassignment
identity transformation
sudden, forced changes
self-destruction + re-birth
making a home for children (4th from 5th)

Bhava-8 = a natural sthana of Mangala = an agent of mystery, discovery, sexual-pursuit, invasion, and psychic or physical penetration.

8 =12th from 9th = religion. The union may have all good qualities and yet orthodox religious (9) sanctification does not occur. There may be no public marriage ceremony.

Both genders are attracted (Shukra) to women (Shukra) who are secretive by nature, handlers of hidden information, or who work with dangerous, emergency situations.

Not always karaka for infidelity but even if one is faithful to one's own spouse, one will enjoy hearing the details of others' hidden love affairs and one will become a repository for secret materials and information, esp hidden wealth.

One may indeed choose a marriage-partner of any gender who has been previously married or involved in previous alliance, or is indeed currently involved in hidden alliances

both husbands of Jacqueline Kennedy Onassis were noted for their promiscuity before and during their marriage to her. Her third life partner remained married to his legal wife throughout his association with the twice-widowed Mrs. O.
Maria O. Shriver's husband Arnold Schwarzenegger was also a before, during, and after practitioner, producing a notable child out of wedlock during his marriage to Mrs. S.

In a female nativity

Female typically has very few female companions but those who exist may be tantriki = trauma healers of a darkly attractive appearance or penetrating psychological quality.

The woman herself is a healer, and she be gifted in the practice of midwifery, surgery, alchemy, or the various arts of identity transformation.

her sexual and energy has penetrating, uncovering, unveiling qualities of the shamanic huntress. Pleasure from mysteries, secrets, emergencies, and hidden (8) indulgence (Shukra).

Excellent position for female healers and healers of females, such as midwives, cosmetic surgeons, psychiatrists, and occult practitioners.

In any rashi, the female native is somewhat self-destructive. Conscious rebirth is an excellent option.

Strong tendency toward incognito liaison; or if an artist, a secret art studio or hidden musical gifts.

In a male nativity:

For a male, Shukra = kalatrakaraka = significator of the wife.

The wife or lover is often hidden from public view. Due to 8th = draining 12th from 9th (public ritual) a male may take a female life-partner without the public vow of marriage = especially likely if Shukra is combust moudhya .

Or, one may prefer to conduct love affairs behind a veil of obscurity.

Male nativity is attracted to women whose influence generates conditions of profound life change. The woman may have hidden assets and she is willing to keep the relationship secret, at least for a while.

Often when Shukra occupies bhava-8 in a male nativity, the partner is married to another at the time of meeting or is divorced.

Often the wife has been previously married or committed to other partners. Due to the death-and-rebirth nature of randhra bhava, which involves alchemical transformation of an existing entity, it is not uncommon for the pre-marital attraction to begin when the wife is still involved with someone else.

For example:

USA Pres-38 Gerald Ford = Mrs. Betty Ford was a divorcee when she married young USA-Congressman Gerald Ford (although this scandalous fact was skillfully covered up by his handlers = 8)
USA Sen. John McCain (Pres candidate 2008) met his first wife in confidential circumstances, when she was still married to one of McCain's colleagues. McCain met his second wife Cindy similarly in confidence: while still married to his first wife, Sen. McCain and Cindy began a hidden, extramarital affair (8)

In a male nativity, Shukra = natural Sthana of Mangala = a wife with penetrating sexual and healing energy. Wife = involved in secret matters, for example:

wealth-acquisition via confidential information in the law practice of a barrister or solicitor (Makara)
fuel-resource discovery, buried treasure hunting (Mesha)
animistic occult bush medicine (Vrischika) and alchemical magic
gracious and pleasant styles of emergency medicine, psychiatry, surgery, death-and-rebirth rebalancing
diplomatic and alliance-oriented emergency response; trauma-healing; disaster recovery
Shukra in rashi of Mangala = wife is an agent of (forced) rejuvenation.

In any rashi, the wife is somewhat self-destructive.

At the higher levels of consciousness, ego self-destruction when intentional can prepare the fertile fields of awareness for rebirth; such purposeful destruction creates an opportunity to replace old sensuality with new values.
In lesser consciousness, the wife's tendency toward self-annihilation is pronounced, and there are typically several iterations of the marriage contract = multiple liaisons.

shad-ashtaka 6-8 angles from Shukra = trouble areas for alliances

relatively little agreement in 6th-from; potentially illness and conflict
secrecy in 8th-from, and potentially catastrophic shock

Shukra-8 enjoys the particular challenge of "self" bhava-1 = 6th from 8, so that marriage and peer partnership is not as a rule very beneficial for one's life-vitality;

(terms of the alliance contract = adversarial to the health)

Periods of the L-3 = 8th from Shukra = can produce sudden announcements which shock and upheave the alliance

adversarial, conflicted 6th from Shukra-8 = tanu bhava-1

Fleshly Identity; Physical Presentation / Body Image; Constitution; Vitality ; Past-life Wisdom ; ; Confidence ; Complexion ; natural vitality, life force, Well-being ; the physical body attributes; the social significance of those attributes.
Appearances + coverings, Activity undertaken , advantages all things, Seeds of appearance; genetics; general aspiration ; beginnings ; birth potential ; body brain capacity to enjoy ; paternal great grandfather ; dispositions; natural general state of health

shocking, secret 8th from Shukra-8 = vikrama-bhava-3

Communications, courage , cohort, cooperation, collaboration, scripted conversations, telecommunications, technology, decisions, mental health: hands, writing, siblings (yours and spouse's), neighbors, teamwork, equipe, business administration, meetings,
planning , calendars, commerce, "media", sales, marketing, management, training, short-term travel, event planning, mentality, conversations, publication, announcement, the inner narrative , reports, announcements, evangelism, messaging, self-owned business

Das / Bepin Behari comments re: Shukra-8

Conditions of Death in a Holy Place

"... libido is very strong, but it does not necessarily lead to promiscuity.

Becoming deeply sensitive to the enduring impulses of your life-essence, you often achieve exceptional status in society ;
- your forthright utterances may provoke others, but you become a civic leader.
Your religious proclivities are both intense and intrinsically honeSaint
- Your spouse is not supportive or may look down on you and cause some kind of worry.
Death is generally at a noble place.
- You may be a shepherd; your language is that of rustics ... denotes happiness; middle age; ailing; discontented; trouble for mother in the 4th year; partner is your well-wisher.
- Financial gain through marriage or partnership.
Gain through legacy or patrimony.

Natural, peaceful and easy end.
- If afflicted, kidney problems, diabetes, obesity or urinary troubles may terminate this life.
- [If afflicted,] separation of marriage partner, loss, grief and many more disappointments.
You are learned and a person of character.
- Gains through cattle wealth.
- Harsh of speech.
- Longevity.
- Success and gain after long and hard struggle.
Always in debt.

Delayed victory.

Mean and unbecoming action.

Long-living, prosperous, strong and rich.

Landlord.

Sick, quarrelsome, vagrant, idle but popular.

Disreputed, married, poor, wicked, bold and worried about the family.

Jovial, vain.

Religious.

Loyalist, possibly non-vegetarian, large eyes, death after 75.

You pay off your father's debt, promotes family interest,

death in a holy place of bile-cough."

file update: 19-May-2013

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