Who Will I Marry?

Second, Third, and Additional Marriages

Jyotisha Methods for Assessment, Evaluation, and Prediction

The Shukra-pendulum swings

The Shukra-scale balances and weighs

Marriage (and remarriage) = the practice of allowing another person or group to weigh and measure one's own true value

It is quite easy to predict the future relationship based on where the pendulum came to rest in the previous relationship.

• The next partner = 8th-from the previous resting place.

Whatever was most severely invalidated in the previous union will be corrected (healed) in the next one. And whatever was boast-worthy in the previous relationship that might have caused the ego to become a bit attached to a positive value will be deflated or devaluated in the next one.

Remember this is an intricate, large scale balancing operation (Shukra = scales, justice) which results in a definition of Self that contains all positive values and all negative values in perfect equality (Shukra) so that we are “paid up” at the end of the drama of samsara.

In practical terms, in your own estimation, what was the biggest invalidation of your previous relationship? Whatever the most salient feeling of unworthiness one was left with, that feeling will be healed in the next relationship. Whatever was the abandonment message, for example ‘you’re not worth staying with and working with over time because you lack ______________” And vice versa. If there was a certain value that one was a bit too proud of, an inflated value -- that one will be reduced, unavailable for boasting rights, in the next union.

For example, a woman might say that in her previous relationship after 10 years and 2 children her husband left due to the primary complaint that she was too controlling and restrictive as a parent. It can be predicted that her next partner will praise her safety-conscious and disciplined parenting.

However if, in the previous relationship, she and her husband had a high income and she liked to show off their nice house and luxury cars; then, in the subsequent relationship it is quite likely that this imbalance will also be corrected, with a more modest income and less available to boast about.

If a man says that his wife left him because she morally disapproved of his gambling, then it can be predicted that his next wife will enjoy gambling as a fun entertainment. However if during the previous relationship he overvalued his worth as a handsome fellow, his next wife will not admire his looks very much.

• The corrective opportunity presents itself with every new mirror.

• Once everything is balanced inside the mind, no further mirrors are required.

Some incarnations swing the Shukra pendulum many times in a single lifetime: there are numerous authentic intimate relationships with memorable validation dynamics. Most westerners have several self-defining relationships during young adulthood and one or more marriages.

There is less pendulum activity in the lives of those in traditional societies where Shani's scarcity requires longer-term commitments. Yet karmic principles would suggest that there is more mirror-level love partnering even in no-divorce societies than might appear on the surface.

Sex is not an essential part of an emotionally intimate relationship. The same intense validation-invalidation dynamic can occur in psycho-spiritually demanding partnerships within convents and monasteries, between close same-gender friends, in business partnerships, and in student-teacher relationships.

However normally the biggest invalidation drama develops in marriages, esp those with children, because social expectations of longevity in committed partnerships keep the partners hanging onto the pendulum by giving an outside person the power to validate one's inner self.

The faster one can become fully self-validating, the faster one can detach from the weigh-scale pendulum of Shukra!

Combinations for Second Marriage:

caveat as always = no one single indicator can predict an event with certainty.

There should be several indicators which repeat the narrative of "death of spouse", "sudden forced divorce", "widowing", or similar narrative.

Das says "Generally, this is the indicator for more than one marriage in the life: Saturn is in 2 or Rahu is in 7."

Indicators of end of first marriage, for both men and women:

• Shukra (karaka for marriage) afflicted in both rashi and navamsha. traditionally this rule emphasizes that Shukra should be afflicted in a dual rashi (Mithuna, Kanya, Dhanusha, Meena)

  • Johnny Cash = D-1 Shukra Meena + Rahu in 2 = happy second marriage

  • Teddy Kennedy = = D-1 Shukra Meena + Rahu in 2 = happy second marriage [D-9 Shukra Dhanushya + Surya = afflicted]

  • UK Prince Charles = D-1 Shukra Kanya ; in D-9 Shukra + Rahu

  • Jack Welch = D-1 Shukra Kanya; D-9 Shukra Mithuna takes drishti of Rahu + Mangala = 3 marriages

  • George Soros = D-1 Shukra Kanya ; in D-9 Shukra afflicted by Mangala = 2 divorces

• 7th-from-Shukra = one mirror-image of the nature of the primary partner = if L-7 from Shukra is troubled, consider that as one indicator (not per se a predictor)

• L-7 in 8, plus randhra bhava receives drishti of a malefic (Shani, Mangala, or Rahu)

  • A mutual aspect when L-7 in 8, such as Shani-8 + Mangala-5, or Rahu-8 + Shani-2, is particularly predictive of sudden, forced end of marriage

• L-7 in 2 can indicate the odd but true situation of marrying the same person twice.

• L-7 in 6 does not indicate sudden end to the marriage, but rather a constant unhealthiness due to argument (verbal or silent) and steady erosion of trust

Multiple marriages can be configured differently in different cultures. For example where polygamy is permitted, the male with L-7+ L-2, and L-9 together in one bhava may acquire three wives in quick succession. Similarly in some cultures a woman of royal status would need to accept multiple husbands in political alliance; she too would need to have lords of several marriage houses to join in her seventh, ninth, eleventh, house.

Dharma bhava normally indicates the third marriage, but bhava-9 can also show second marriage

For male nativity

• "additional marriage" can be seen in 3rd-from-Shukra and 3rd-from-yuvati-bhava = bhava-9

• in cultures which typically permit a man to marry two sisters (polygyny, e.g. parts of Nepal), see bhava-9 = younger sibling of the first wife. Whether the two wives are biological sisters or not, second wife whether simultaneous or sequential, 2nd spouse = symbolically considered a "younger sister" of the wife and often conditions in bhava-9 contribute to the profile of the "additional" wife or wives.

• Also in many cultures, if a woman is widowed, her deceased husband's brothers are obliged to accept her as an additional wife, whether the brothers desire this responsibility or not. She will enter his house at a lower status which makes her a "younger sister" regardless of her age. If they like it, dharma bhava is in good shape.

  • Naturally dharma bhava is a house of exceptionally good fortune; a man who has the supportive affection of his wife's sisters is always blessed.

  • L-9 is a fortunate graha. If the native is blessed with a second wife, she will be of religious nature so long as conditions in dharma bhava are favorable.

• Also applies when the second wife is a cousin or other extended relative, close neighbor, or possibly even a co-worker of the first wife. Also wife-1 and wife-2 may be schoolmates, roommates, very close friends who feel like siblings, or other intimate team co-identity.

• In small communities where caste rules determine marriage, the likelihood of the first wife and second wife being familiarly related is quite high.

• Dharma bhava is thus the site of remarriage under conditions where the first and second wives are sisters or cousins or otherwise related to each other, including when they have been related through marriage kinship.

For female nativity

• "additional marriage" in cultures which typically permit a woman to marry two brothers (polyandry, e.g., parts of Tibet where this method is a primary factor in keeping precious farmland within the family). See bhava-9 = younger sibling of the first husband. Lord of third from Guru must be strong for this marriage to succeed. Also check lord of 11th-from-Guru, which can signify an elder brother (symbolically) to the 1st husband and 11th-from is also a marker for "multiplicity".

• Whether the two husbands are biological brothers or not, second husband whether simultaneous or sequential, 2nd spouse = symbolically considered a "younger brother" of the wife and often conditions in bhava-9 contribute to the profile of the "additional" husband (s). Naturally dharma bhava is a house of exceptionally good fortune; a woman who has the supportive affection of her husband's brothers is always blessed.

• The attributes of dharma bhava and L-9 help to profile a second husband. The most frequent setting for second marriage signified by dharma bhava = within small or caste-regulated communities where the likelihood of first and second husbands being related to each other is very high. But indeed these men are related psychically and have been brothers in a past life, regardless of their present life births.

Ripu bhava and Lord of Ripu = 12th-from-7th

Challenges to maintaining Vitality in marriages:

• First-marriage dissolution-of-trust agents which can drain the vitality of the first marriage =

  • 12th-from-7th-from Chandra = "imagination of the spouse", "long retreats of the spouse", "distant residence of the spouse"

  • 12th-from-7th-from radix lagna ( bhava-6) = "native's own argumentativeness", "native's own illness or debt"

  • 12th-from-7th-navamsha = "enemies of the spouse; partner's ailments and debts"

  Second-marriage dissolution-of-trust agents which can drain the vitality of the second marriage =

• 12th-from-2nd-from Chandra = Chandra itself = "native's own emotional nature" which is identical to the emotional imagination of the second spouse.

  • The second spouse may experience a deep psycho-emotional fantasy or imaginative relationship to the native , but the connection may remain very private.

  • Unlike the first marriage bond which is publicly celebrated, there is limited public validationof the second marriage bond unless Chandra is with other, more public graha such as Shani or Rahu (e.g., Ronald Reagan = private intimacy of marriage-2 goes public).

• 12th-from-2nd-from radix lagna = radix lagna itself = ( bhava-1) = "native's own flesh-body", "native's own social identity" which is identical to the withdrawn, private, bedroom, and sanctuary retreat practices of the second spouse.

  • Physical bedroom intimacy, extended sanctuary retreat, and extended foreign travel of the native , are favored in the second marriage.

  • Yet the native 's identity may be rather invisible or unacknowledged by the second spouse to whom the native belongs in the world of private imagination and distant lands.

• 12th-from-2nd-navamsha = navamsha lagna itself = "native's own behavior in relationships"

third-marriage dissolution-of-trust agents which can drain the vitality of the third marriage =

• 12th-from-9th-from Chandra = "imagination of the third spouse", "long retreats of the third spouse", "foreign residence of the third spouse"

• 12th-from-9th-from radix lagna ( bhava-8) = "native's own secrecy", "native's own hidden items", "native's own tantrik interests"

• 12th-from-9th-navamsha = 8th navamsha = "one's own spiritual secrets"

If the first marriage dissolves, it will most likely be perceived as due (predominantly) to the behavior of the spouse.

If the second marriage dissolves, it will most likely be perceived as due (predominantly) to the behavior of the self.

If the third marriage dissolves, it will most likely be perceived as due (predominantly) to the effect of hidden forces.

Q: You mentioned that :

• L-7 occupying house-6, house-8, or house-12 is unfortunate, and usually indicates a difficult marriage.

Does this apply only to the first marriage or does it apply to all subsequent marriages. Because the reading for the lord of the 7th in different houses should change according to what marriage you are talking about, right?

For the first marriage+ L-7 position and strength/aspects matters, this makes sense. So for the second marriage, should you look at the position and strength of the L-2 since he becomes the lord of the second spouse for a native?

And so on and so forth for the remaining marriages. [regarding a second spouse] should I be looking at the reading for the L-2 posited in different houses and rashis?

A : Marriage 1, Marriage 2, Marriage 3, and so on

First level of interpretation = radix (rashi) chart

Alliances

bhava-7+ L-7, 7th-from-Chandra, lord of Seventh-from-Chandra:

• L-7 in radix represents the material character and behaviors of the first spouse.

• L-7 and lord of 7th-from-Chandra also represent the native 's general orientation toward marriage and life partnership, as well as business partnership, and other Alliances.

• If the L-7 goes into a dushthamsha, some repeating behaviors of the spouse will t rigger the native 's own karmic discomfort.

• he natal situation, whether easy or difficult, is exacerbated by Vimshottari periods of L-7.

L-7 = lord of 7th-from-Chandra = Shukra in bhava-6

• he spouse triggers the native 's subconscious expectation that the core partnership is prone toward loss of agreement. One's partner is expected to be sick, in debt, in lawsuits or arguments, or in some way chronically unbalanced. The spouse's internal energy is so consumed with managing his/her own internal imbalances that there is very little free resource available for maintaining outside alliances..

• >Less harmful if L-7 is a malefic (since malefics give good results in dushthamsha.) If L-7 = benefic, managing the spouse's internal imbalance can exhaust the native 's own life force.

L-7 = lord of 7th-from-Chandra = Shukra in bhava-8

• he spouse triggers the native 's subconscious expectation that the core partnership is prone toward secrecy and sudden, forced changes. One's partner is expected to hiding money, activities, or information (such as tax or income), or conducting secret alliances, or perhaps working on confidential transformative projects. Discovery of the hidden operations can create catastrophic change.

BTW this is not always a bad situation. The spouse might be a surgeon, psychiatrist, tax attorney, or other designated confidence agent who is socially approved to keep secrets - and earn well doing so!

Similarly if bhava-8 is occupied by a benefic, the spouse's secret operations may enrich the joint assets of marriage. the native remains (rather conveniently) "in the dark" about the mysterious source of money... (e.g., spouse practicing tax evasion).

L-7 = lord of 7th-from-Chandra = Shukra in bhava-12

• he spouse triggers the native 's subconscious expectation that the core partnership is prone toward distancing and loss of identity. The partner's clandestine activities may cause a crumbling or dissolution of the native 's social identity. The partner may undertake long foreign journeys, be strongly identified with a distant or imaginative project, or retreat into meditation for long periods of time. the native 's Appearance deteriorates.

• Less harmful if L-7 is a malefic (since malefics give good results in dushthamsha.)

At the radix level, seeing the role of L-2 = second spouse, is a bit more complex.

Material behaviors of the second spouse are indicated by L-2 and lord of 2nd-from-Chandra.

Read the L-2 similar to the L-7 to determine what the L-2 behaviors of the second spouse will "trigger" in the native 's field of subconscious expectation.

E.g., Lord of 2nd-from-Chandra if occupying bhagya bhava-5 will trigger the native 's expectations in areas of romantic love, games, children, and speculation.. (According to the unique details of bhava-5, its rashi, tenants, etc.)

L-2 representing second spouse in occupation of bhava-12 could indicate triggers from L-2 which evoke expectations of withdrawn personality, someone who lives in the imagination, in a monastery always meditating, dealing always in dreams (like a therapist perhaps), foreign sojourns, being away on business a great deal, and so forth.

If one is careful in the analysis, it is possible to discriminate another level of reflection and evocation of the native 's expectations from second-house as lagna for second marriage.

• One can (carefully) see 4th-from-2nd = 2nd spouse's childhood home; or 7th-from-2nd as second spouse's first marriage, or 11th-from-2nd as the income of the second spouse.

• This is perfectly OK to do, so long as one does not conflate the native 's own subconscious expectations of a certain type of behavior, with the second spouse's expectations.

• The behavior of the spouse is considered to be acted out from the native 's own script.

• The spousal behavior is simply a mirror of the native 's own beliefs.

• We cannot use the native 's radix chart to insinuate the motives or subconscious programming of the person who is the actor called the second spouse.

• We can only say, here is the program, and here is how the second spouse will trigger it.

• The second spouse's own intentions can only be read from the second spouse's own birth charts

L-9 for third marriage can be read precisely the same way. If L-9 = Shani in bhava-6, the third spouse will be a dignified person (assuming that the rashi is hospitable to Shani) and prone to illness or lawsuits or perhaps a social worker facilitating public welfare programs. As always the details of the native 's bhava-6 will tell the nature of the expectations.

If Lord of 9th-from-Chandra = Kuja, and Kuja occupies bhava-8, the third spouse will have a tendency toward secrecy. But whether this third spouse is being paid to keep secrets such as a Security Clearance physicist, or whether the spouse is conducting hidden extramarital affairs or performing magical transformations in hidden tantra, will all depend on the nature of the birth house!

And L-9 by its very nature will also signify one's father; so that regardless of L-9's disposition in the radix, the third spouse will always match the father's behavior in key ways which allow the native to become more conscious of one's own relationship to one's father.

Yes you are correct - judge the spouses in sequence from both rashi lagna (material conditions, assets, social rank etc.) and Chandra lagna (emotional behaviors, imagery).

Why bhava-7 and 7th-from-Chandra continue to influence marriage:

• All marriages are affected by one's fundamental offensive-defensive pattern of relating intimately to another person.

• The basic partnership pattern, as indicated by conditions in yuvati bhava, will from the common foundation for communicative exchange foundation in all marriages.

• Even if one experiences numerous partners - e.g., the actress Elizabeth Taylor who had eight sequential marriages -- or whether one is culturally allowed to have simultaneously two husbands or ten wives.

• One's own fundamental relationship communication behaviors are defined by bhava-7 and 7th-from-Chandra. These behaviors will carry forward into each subsequent marriage, although one's own offensive-defensive pattern will adjust slightly to accommodate each new worthy adversary.

For Thula lagna , both L-2 and L-7 = Kuja. In predicting spousal behavior for Thula natives, to check distinctions between 2nd-from-Chandra and 7th-from-Chandra. If a Thulanative also has Moon in Thula, the first and second spouses will be remarkably similar to each other!

For Mesha lagna, , both L-2 and L-7 = Shukra. In predicting spousal behavior for Mesha natives, to check distinctions between 2nd-from-Chandra and 7th-from-Chandra. If a Mesha native also has Moon in Mesha, the first and second spouses will be remarkably similar to each other!

For a Kanya lagna native, both L-2 and L-9 = Shukra. For a Meena native, both L-2 and L-9 = Kuja.

For these cases, seek more information from Chandra lagna. In the situation of Chandra in lagna, be assured that in the comparison between second vs. third spouse, there will not be much difference to comment upon. the native will attract two very similar spouses, who may even be siblings.

file update: 17-May-2012

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