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UNIONS 27
Prospective First Marriage, Evaluation
Aspiring Film Star inquires about a Possible Bride
Kala Sarpa Yoga in the Female nativity?
Vigilant Awareness of Negative Thoughts Projected through Shani
First marriage prospects:
This young couple enquired about marriage prospects at the very beginning of their attraction.
Both have good education and career potential.
Despite the overall stress of coordinating in-law families, they feel optimistic about positive relationship and shared growth.
Is this optimism warranted?
Important note on birth time:
Female birth time is given at 16:30 hrs which might be an estimated time. Chandra occupies zero degrees two seconds of Thula rashi in nakshatra of Chitra using the 16:30 birth time.
If the birth time is several minutes earlier than 16:30, all of the presumptions of compatibility based on Chandra in Thula Rashi could become invalid.
Note also that Rahu/Ketu occupy zero degrees eleven seconds of their rashi axis. If Chandra does accurately station at zero degrees of Thula, the implication is positive for "square" stabilizing Chandra relationship to the passion-detachment machine of Rahu-Ketu.
While a few minutes of birth time difference will not affect Rahu-Ketu's rashi identity, it is worth noting the gandanta effect of weakening of rashi traits when any graha occupies the conceptual shadow-zone between rashi and nakshatra degree boundaries.
Kala Sarpa Yoga in the Female nativity?
Q: Kaal Sarpa Dosha?
She has all the planets btw Rahu and Ketu. In India this dosha has gained great prominence, many astrologers associate restrictions, lack of opportunities and hurdles in life due this yoga. Others associate KSY with power and fame yoga, as observed by you also, many successful businesspeople and politicians have it. I myself have observed that the yoga does obstruct the smooth working of life. In India, the remedy for it is specific organized puja, conducted by priests in Nasik, Trimbkeshwar, where Lord Shiva shrine is there.
What sort of service can eradicate the evil effects of yoga, if some one cannot do the puja?
A: Please see my comments at Kala Sarpa Yoga for my view on realistic outcomes of this famous but over-estimated astrological configuration. In brief, I have seen many nativities of perfectly normal people who live out their entire lives with KSY and are fairly happy.
Selfless Service to those who are not well-connected to mainstream society and who often get blamed for misfortunes, such as foreigners, outcastes, and other taboo outsiders, will aid in alleviating the fear of being "scapegoated" which is the subconscious reality underlying KSY.
The main distinguishing feature of KSY is a psychological tendency to to sacrifice one's time, psychic energy, and even life for the benefit of others in family and nation. If the nativity indicates a noble character, the sacrifice may be for the welfare of one's nation or religion. For normal people, the sacrifice is dedicated toward the welfare of family and immediate community life. In a weak personality, KSY gives "the martyr type".
Q: If Mean Rahu is taken, then this yoga happens. But if True Rahu is considered, then it does not exist. Again importance of calculations, changing destiny. How to determine whether KSY is present here or not?
A: That is a great Jyotisha question! Thanks for asking. My own opinion is that "modified KSY" is definitely present in this nativity. (KSY gets modified by the presence of Shukra at 12 deg. Makara.)
The somewhat ambivalent rashi location of Radix Rahu-Ketu is can be confirmed through inspecting the navamsha. The navamsha degree of Rahu is 1-47 deg. of Karkata. And to further emphasize the psychic dominance of Karkata, the navamsha lagna occupies 17-57 deg. of Chandra's sign. Also Shukra in Radix and the Budha-Guru opposition in navamsha tend to attract lots and lots of psychic valence into the Makara-Karkata axis.
Your question is a very good one and it cuts to the heart of Jyotisha practice. One single indicator of a pattern or symptom (such as the slight difference between Mean and True Rahu) is never adequate grounds for making a final determination. We are looking for repeating patterns that ground analytical confidence. Assessments of character and predictions of future events require multiple confirming factors.
In the case of this attractive, hard-working young woman, Kala Sarpa Yoga is indeed in effect due to the abundant graha along the Makara-Karkata axis in both D-1 and D-9, while the Mithuna houses in D-1 and D-9 are empty. Thus the ambivalence caused by (backward-traveling) radix Rahu occupying the rashi-boundary between Karkata and Mithuna is eliminated, and Rahu-Ketu can be confidently predicted to create the "modified" KSY which occurs when visible graha also occupy the Rahu-Ketu axis.
Observations on general life structure:
Female:
The two benefics, L-3 Chandra & L-8/L-11 Guru occupying domain-6 in a rashi of Shukra:
profile for diabetes or other over-expansive sweets-related illness.
mental & physical health problems related to imbalanced food/alcohol intake, a sugar issue affecting the kidneys/pancreas
close relationship with a sick & dependent mother
dusthana lord of 3, 8 & 11 in dusthana 6:
native has discipline & realism regarding the imbalanced conditions in her life and her body
may develop skillful management information & even a career in health professions
Surya in domain-8 and Chandra in domain-6
indicates chronic disease and potential loss of longevity
L-1/L-6 Shukra yuti Ketu: pretty, with a high career
native has very lovely bone structure, likely quite photogenic
father may have alcohol or sweets-related health issues (L-6 in domain-9)
Das says of Makara/Shukra/9, "You gradually rises in social status & acquire ever greater amounts of wealth & property. In religious observances & moral conduct, there is a decline. You are prepared to take on whatever qualifies you for inclusion in a sophisticated elite group."
Das says of Shukra in 2nd padaa of Shravana, "You are very young in appearance, & are able to adapt to the circumstances. You have great aspiration, hence it is seen that you reach a very high position."
Ambition for position is somewhat reduced by the ambivalence of Ketu
But Ketu also helps the native to be flexible in method of attainment & accommodating of the interests of others. May receive easy promotions, especially through romantic liaisons.
Female L-10 Shani/Kanya in domain-5 with "bean-counter" Kuja/Kanya:
career in the entertainment industry, often in a technical or service capacity such as financial accounting, costuming, stage management, story writer, or other support role.
Positive Marriage compatibility factors:
Lords of key lagnas or "graha maitram"
Friendship of the Lords of the psycho-emotional lagnas
In navamsha both nativities feature Karkata lagna
it is beneficial to have both spouse's lagnas ruled by the same graha.
However very close attention should be paid to the character of the notoriously absorptive & fluctuating Moon in both nativities, in order to forecast the emotional compatibility
Auspicious 1/7 Chandra angle:
See Light on Relationships: The Synastry of Indian Astrology by Svoboda & deFouw for concept of auspicious relative angles between graha.
Shukra/Kuja are not friendly but they are often attracted due to their natural opposition. They rule the female/male attraction explicitly.
Lords of the Chandra Rashis = Neutral
in radix, which indicates public aspects of the marriage, the male's Chandra lord = Kuja, while female's Chandra lord = Shukra
Radix-public compatibility = moderately good
in navamsha, which indicates the private psycho-emotional aspects of the marriage, male's Chandra lord = Budha, while female's Chandra lord = Shukra
the female is blessed by a vargottama Soma, which is good for emotional stability and gracious balance in the home
She will be a wonderful wife, mother, community parent & entertainer - although she will not have much tolerance for people or situations that are ugly, messy, inelegant, or out of balance!
The male prefers to organize his feelings before expressing them, and may need to analyze all emotional decisions. He needs clean & quiet environs in which to relax.
the two navamsha Moon lords, Budha/Shukra, are friendly, which adds auspice. Private compatibility = quite good
Supportive & Friendly Surya-Chandra angles:
Marriage involves both public and private duties.
Even with strong interpersonal appreciation, a couple may experience great stress in dealing with extended family, their respective work teams, or members of their religious group.
Even with tightly aligned social values and coordinated public behavior, a couple may experience external dignity while suffering private emotional anguish.
Therefore the relationship between two radix Suryas (public, rational identity) and two radix Chandras (private, intuitive feelings) is extremely important in long term marriage commitment.
Male Surya = L-1 in Dhanau/5; female Surya = L-4 in Dhanau/8. In general these 2 Surya positions suggest harmoniously coordinated public action. Unfortunately the female Surya/8 signals disrespectful public behavior occasionally, due to a tantrik entitlement
Male Chandra = L-12 in Mesha/9; female Chandra = L-3 in Thula/6. Both Moons are dusthana lords, suggesting both natives have difficult mothers. Male's Moon is rescued somewhat through religious attitude.
Both Surya positions relate favorably by rashi to both Chandra positions; thus a forecast of general social harmony in the relationships between the two natives and also regarding their respective parents can generally be made.
Lords of respective Chandra Nakshatras (additional psycho-emotional style) are Neutral:
male Moon occupies [padaa-2] Bharani ruled by Shukra
female Moon occupies [padaa-3] Chitra, ruled by Mangala
Negative marriage compatibility factors:
Lords of the physical lagnas (physical and emotional bodies)
In radix, male lagnesha = Surya while female lagnesha = Shukra
the lords of the radix lagnas are enemies
this is not a show-stopper, but it is a consideration for skillful collaboration in marriage.
It is beneficial for traditional gendered divisions of labor that the male have a public advantage from a hot, dynamic graha like Surya or Kuja; while the traditional female public roles benefit from cool, more passive lagnesha such as Shukra or Shani.
The male should not expect the female to produce much physical athletic public behavior, nor should the female expect the male to slow down and accommodate her careful, balanced graces.
The male should not expect the female to join his sports club, or even support his games. The female should not expect the male to enjoy long, gracious dinners.
If this type of profiling is accepted within the marriage activity structure, there need be no frustration, only acceptance of each other's true body type.
Shukra for pleasure receptors
Female Shukra/Makara indicates the female native requires a conservative, reliable marriage partner who will assume most of the conventional spousal duties.
Male Shukra/Vrischikha indicates the male native requires a psychically intense, tantrik-healing marriage partner who will explore psychological depths in the sexual & psychic marriage partnership.
Lords of the Shukra positions
Shani & Kuja, are incompatible:
This incompatibility is not a show-stopper! It is a conflict of *expectations* not a conflict of *performance*.
Shani vs. Kuja indicates that the two partners must be *aware* of what each expects in terms of pleasuring from the marriage, and take conscious steps to provide that experience to their spouse.
This couple should definitely undertake pre-marital counseling and complete the exercises which write out the "inventory" of each partner's conscious and evoked expectations. It is not wise to assume that being "in love" or being from similar cultural backgrounds will automatically make each partner's love style feel good to the other.
In the modern era, we have the privilege to *learn* to care for each other, through compassionate attention to the Other's reality, their wants and needs.
Each radix Chandra "mapped" into other's navamsha
In emotionally communicative marriage, male's radix Soma should be "emotionally recognized" in the female's navamsha, and vice versa.
This feature is *not* present in either of the two nativities.
Female radix moon Thula does not match either rashi axis of male navamsha lagna or rashi axis of male navamsha Rahu-Ketu
Male radix Moon Mesha does not match either rashi axis of female navamsha lagna or rashi axis of female navamsha Rahu-Ketu
This female should marry a male with radix Chandra in Karka or Makara
This male should marry a female with radix Chandra in either Karka/Makara or Dhanau/Mithuna
Nakshatra of Chandra Compatibility "points":
In The Nakshatras: Lunar Mansions of Vedic Astrology, author Dennis Harkness' provides a nakshatra Moon lords "points" table from the esteemed Jyotishi Shri B.V. Raman.
For this prospective married couple, Raman's table gives a nakshatra compatibility rating of "22", on a scale of 2 through 38.
This is an adequate score for a young couple. Not excellent, but adequate presuming there is good conflict-resolution role modeling from their parents.
In real life, the Moon's nakshatra compatibility becomes important only if the couple are very sensitive to slight changes in emotional vibration. In a traditional, ritually-governed environment it is possible for small changes in the spousal affection to have major affect on one's happiness.
However in the modern lifestyle, one hardly has time to notice the subtle psycho-emotional effects of Chandra-nakshatra fine-tuning. Family life fails to enter that pleasant, predictable hum of previous ages. Spouses drive off in different professional directions, barely remembering that each other exist until the exhausted end of the business day. And much of one's attention in modern life necessarily drawn away from the home & marriage, into commercial, political, and technological affairs.
These bindus are certainly worth something as an estimate of emotional compatibility, but they must be understood as rather subtle indicators of psycho-emotional character rather than brute physical or financial conditioners. They indicate emotional characteristics of the spouse which a modern person might not even notice unless the nerve-jangling electrical grid were suddenly shut down.
Respective Emotional points of view
Female Viewpoint:
Female subconsciously expects equality & balance in her emotional relationships. She wants the best in life, including gracious & harmonious relationships with husband & children.
She has no good skills for managing unruly, vulgar, or chronically imbalanced personalities in her life. She enjoys the patronage of strong male figures, and will keep a lovely home in exchange for protection from outside hostility.
Male Viewpoint:
Male subconsciously expects to be nurtured in a healthy, competitive style. In particular, he desires a worthy opponent in sport & verbal argument. He is looking for a teacher, a fellow warrior, and a priest.
The spouse should be innovative, enthusiastic, and physically active -- even driven. The male likes to win and he needs a female companion who nourishes his courage and competitive skill.
Relationship
In a relationship these emotional orientations are compatible. The couple would need to take care, however, not to depend on each other to satisfy all of their respective social and emotional needs. The female should cultivate the social company of other gracious, sensitive and designing females, while the male should have a male athletic group that plays together and shares talking interest in engineering, strategies and tactics for winning games, and national sport.
female:
bhukti periods of Chandra, Shani, Shukra, or Rahu
gochara Rahu-Ketu should cross the native's navamsha lagna, navamsha nodal axis, radix lagna, radix nodal axis, or radix Moon
ideally, no graha transiting through 7th radix or 7th navamsha at the time of marriage ceremony (transit of Brihaspati or Shukra is probably OK)
male:
bhukti periods of Chandra, Shani, Shukra, or Rahu
gochara Rahu-Ketu should cross the native's navamsha lagna, navamsha nodal axis, radix lagna, radix nodal axis, or radix Moon
ideally, no graha transiting through 7th radix or 7th navamsha at the time of marriage ceremony (transit of Brihaspati or Shukra is probably OK)
"If Ketu be in the seventh house at birth, the partner will die during [Ketu] period or be separated from the native.
He will suffer from urinary complains and some disease of the generative organs.
He will encounter many obstacles to his career and will lose money because of the rivalry and competition of enemies."
~~ Shil-Ponde. (1939). Hindu Astrology Joytisha-Shastra. p 280.
Inauspicious marriage prognosis for Ketu in domain-7?
Q:
Respected Madam, I met one of known astrologer of country, he said that i would be having love marriage, but he Cautioned me about being cheated in relationship, i was a bit disappointed by the duality of statement.
May be he reasoned becoz lot of astrologers associated Ketu as planet of cheat and deceit and breakups, unfortunately Ketu is present in &th house of mine.
Is Such a reasoning of Ketu justified?
A:
The Jyotisha nativity shows several different influences on radix domain-7 , radix 7th-from-Moon, and navamsha-domain7.
Ketu in domain-7
Ketu in the marriage house does suggest detachment and disconnection from the spouse.
Typically the spouse was raised in a culture different from one's own. The result is that negotiating shared goals and lifestyle choices can be difficult, because each person brings a very different set of expectations into the marriage.
The spouse will tend to withdraw from confrontation, into a state of mental solitude and emotional detachment. This withdrawal does not itself suggest unfaithfulness or "cheating", merely disinterest and a deep inner apathy with a characteristic unwillingness to engage in progressive communication.
Ketu tends to presume that things are pretty much "stuck" right where they are. Ketu is resigned to the situation, whatever it is.
Consider Shri Ketu's fate, cycling around Rahu in perpetuity with no chance of ever successfully re-uniting, yet forced to see Rahu there, unattainable but always in view, every moment of Ketu's infinitely long life! Ketu is the very definition of numb, apathetic resignation to separation, loneliness, and despair.
Shani drishti to domain-7
Shani provides a counterbalancing effect of commitment to duty and personal discipline. The spouse may feel ego-constrained, unable to express one's unique personal intelligence and creativity, and so a bit oppressed in marriage.
However Shani contributes a stabilizing attitude of determination to abide by the rules, and concern to conform with conventional marriage expectations.
7th from radix Moon
7th-from-Chandra = Thula rashi, lord = Shukra which is of course positive expectation for beauty and romantic nature of the spouse. Shukra in Nakra rashi suggests a sensual, psychologically intense personality of the beloved.
However Shukra occupies 8th-from-Chandra. When lord of jaya bhava occupies randhra bhava, there is always the expectation of sexual interest outside of marriage. Particularly the intrigue and intensity of Nakra rashi for Shukra lends more descriptive power to this potential for Shukra.
Lord of 7th navamsha
Shani = lord of 7th navamsha. Shani's behavior improves in marriage because Shani = "uccha" in navamsha. However within the navamsha, Shani struggles to curtail the immoral effects of neechha Surya and Guru in Thula.
This is a minor consideration, but worthy of a moment's attention because the complex of grahas with Shani in navamsha expresses the native's own, interior complexity regarding how to achieve balanced relationship with another equal human being.
There is much confusion about appropriate expectations in marriage: how much is duty, how much is romance, how much is responsibility to acknowledge the independent reality of the spouse? The social rules for marriage are clear (uccha Shani) but the role of the individual (neechha Surya) is not.
Prognosis for fidelity in marriage:
The spouse may feel isolated and unrecognized in a marriage climate that emphasizes the husband's passions and desires for recognition (Rahu) and the husband's drive toward material achievement and social position (Shani) at the cost of the spouse's identity.
If there is marital straying, it will be due only to the native's negligence, caused by single-minded pursuit of one's own goals and duties whilst ignoring the spouse. By validating the personal feelings and perceptions of the spouse, even if those feelings & perceptions are culturally and mentally very different from one's own, alienation in marriage can be prevented.
One must diligently constrain the urge to criticize and control the behavior of the spouse (Shani). The native must work steadily toward creating and maintaining clear agreements.
Avoiding the effects of marital negligence
Should the spouse experience the default isolation and "invisibility" which is indicated by Ketu in domain-7, and the love nature is forced to look elsewhere for validation and sensual response, then the prognosis is unfortunately for weak commitment to the marriage exclusivity vow.
Eliminate criticism and increase conscious appreciation
This frustration for both parties can be avoided by releasing all criticism and judgment of the spouse, and creating calendar time to enjoy each other's company regardless of external social duties and performance expectations.
Q:
Respected Madam, Namaskar,
I feel I am seriously in love with the girl, I really do not know what she feels of me, I am worried about the fact that years back similar situation happened to me, that girl ruined my career and personality for 10 years, I am scareful in Matters of love.
I wish this one gets successful, else it is always a soul killing experience. Plz tell about her liking towards me or is it only me who has fallen a prey to imaginative love story. I feel drained and loss of confidence in such situations. Why is Love so Troublesome for me, do not i deserve it?
Best regards Jai Ganesha.
A:
Shani occupies the lagna in nativity.
From this position, Shanaicharya projects constant, repeating anxious, survival-driven questions into the field of awareness.
This lifelong condition can be alleviated through careful attention to one's own thoughts.
You will benefit from maintaining Vigilant Awareness of Negative Thoughts Projected through Shani in Lagna.
Also, you may find comfort by learning to use a system of divination in order to recognize and answer these repeating mental questions.
Using Divination to Answer Urgent Questions
One of the best methods for locating the repeating, anxious, negative, fearful patterns of pessimism and doubt on the causal plane is performance of divination.
Jyotisha is a divinatory system of considerable accuracy but also great complexity. The skilled Jyotishi must negotiate thousands of factors and eliminate hundreds of logical contradictions en route to the proper prediction. Thank God for computers, but even with the computations now performed quite accurately at the push of a button, the amount of intuition and knowledge base required is truly daunting.
I am not suggesting that you learn Jyotisha unless you have desire to invest years of study.
However all Jyotishi must have strong graha in or ruling domain-12 -- and you do indeed have a lovely uccha Guru residing happily in the domain of meditative reflection, imagination, and divination!
You have natural divination skills. Please learn to use them!
You have the inborn capacity to do a variety of divinations. You can do them whenever a doubt or anxiety about "how it will be" should arise. (Anxiety about where down the particle stream this "inevitable negativity" of disappointment and despair it will manifest) I recommend to learn to practice one's own divination first in the simpler forms.
Please see the divinations page for some suggestions on divination technologies. Choose a divination method that is easy and culturally accessible for you. Use it to answer your most urgent questions immediately!
Health issues for the female, how to approach
Q:
The female continues to experience health issues.
What can be recommended for improvement of health conditions, considering the presence of Chandra/Guru in Thula rashi in domain-6, while Guru is also lord of 6th-from-Chandra?
A:
Namaste,
Moon occupies domain-6 of imbalance, signifying an emotional expectation of "loss of agreement. This subconscious expectation motivates behaviors which lead to illness and social conflict.
It is essential to reflect on the psycho-emotional characteristics of Chandra in Chitra nakshatra.
Physical illness begins with a psycho-emotional orientation toward a particular type of imbalance.
If the imbalance can be corrected on the mental or emotional levels, through conscious alteration of thoughts and reactive emotions, the native may experience a significant relief of physical symptoms.
Gem remedy?
Gems do not "cause" physical symptoms nor relieve symptoms, but an effective remedial gem functions as a signal-repeater along the subtle psychic-nerve (nadi) network.
If the signal is a negative thought or a reactive emotion, the attuned gem will simply magnify and repeat the existing signal.
That is why it is essential for each individual to become aware of the thoughts and emotions that one is generating and to take responsibility for managing this thought-emotion environment.
Consider the psycho-emotional agenda which accompanies the Moon in Chitra. Make skillful recommendations for gaining awareness of the impulse to use other people, instrumentally and in an exploitive fashion ( 6), for gain of information toward personal advancement.
She will need to develop awareness of a tendency toward negative expectations of emotional relationships, which motive behavior to manipulate and use others. Ultimately the toxicity caused by anxiety reactions and persistent negativity caused by malignant expectations will pollute the native's own aura.
Unless the astral imbalance is addressed directly on the mental or emotional planes, the imbalance will percolate down into the material plane, causing sickness in the physical body.
In this Jyotisha nativity, look for sickness particularly in parts of the body ruled by Moon (lymph, water systems) and/or Guru (reproduction, spine) and by the rashi Thula (all paired organs such as kidney/adrenal, ears, ovaries, etc.).
The good news is that all of this dire prediction can be corrected by the native, as soon as she is able to accept personal responsibility (without guilt!) for cleaning up the toxic stew of manipulative or exploitive motive within her emotional relationships.
It will take time and personal commitment to sort out all the action-reaction karma involving domains:
- 3 (communications behaviors, Chandra)
- 8 (secret knowledge, Guru; also 3rd-from-Moon)
- 11 (personal gain, Guru; also 6th-from-Moon).
However the opportunity for healing transformation is always present. Carpe diem!
Best wishes for success in your continuing study of Jyotisha,
Sincerely,
Barbara Pijan Lama, Jyotisha
May all beings venerate life as a state of deep spiritual intimacy.
updated: 09 December 2008
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