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Parents and Grandparents

Childhood Home

Relatives living in the Home


see also BPHS: Kinship = "Constant Karakatwa" = Planetary Significators of Family Members


a parenting tale: "Later" by Michael Foster

~~ Kahlil Gibran

You may give them your love but not your thoughts.

For they have their own thoughts.

You may house their bodies but not their souls.

For their souls dwell in the house of tomorrow,

which you cannot visit,

not even in your dreams.

sambhukaraka = Chandra

Chandra = significator for all things related to parents (sambhu)

matters of the Father predictable from Surya Lagna

Example:

dramatist, philanthropist Angelina Jolie

Father = Surya lagna Vrishabha (rashi of Surya's enemy Shukra) + Budha + Ketu. The father is sensual (Vrishabha) articulate (Budha) and gainful (Surya 11) and so will be the native (L-2 in 11) yet Lord Ketu is very problematic here as an agent of scattering and distance.

Paternal grandfather (father's mother) = Kumbha = bhava-8. This personality is hidden during the present lifetime. Lord Shani in 5th from 8th = vyaya bhava, creates a voice of responsibility, limitation, and obligation speaking from the subconscious (12). The personality of the paternal grandmother may have been secluded or isolated via a distant land.

Paternal grandmother (father's father) = Kanya = 3. This fellow was probably well-known in his own area of expertise, because Kanya = karakamsha. Budha + Ketu + Surya suggests that the native 's father was similar in personality and appearance to his own father, but that these men due to their careers are somewhat scattered or wandering in their behavior. the native may find both her own father and her paternal grandfather to be rather inscrutable characters.

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Father's siblings

Because Ms. Jolie's father is a public figure (the actor John Voight) it is known that her father's elder brother was a university professor while his younger brother was a noted romantic songwriter. 11th from Surya = 9 university (a complex of graha showing a complex personality); 3rd from Surya = Shukra music songs.

  1. Surya = father himself = his vitality, his social-material identity. Whether or not this person is actually known to the native , 50% of one's genetic material comes from this person.

    • Ravi shows the public father. However one's emotional relationship to the father = adjudged via 9th from Chandra.

    2nd-from-Surya = the father's wealth-and-knowledge treasuries, the father's family history; father's face, eyes and voice, father's second marriage

  2. 3rd-from-Surya = father's siblings, father's commerce and writing, father's hands and lungs

    • Count forward 3 from Surya = 3rd from Surya = father's immediate younger sibling

    4th-from-Surya = father's childhood home, father's schooling, father's emotional security, father's vehicles, father's owned property.

  3. 5th-from-Surya = father's romance, father's politics and drama, father's intelligence, father's luck, father's children.

    • Count backward 9 before Surya = 5th-from-Surya = Father-of-father = one's paternal grandfather.

    • Whether or not this person is actually known to the native , 25% of one's genetic material comes from this person.

    • If the birth data for the paternal grandfather is not available, this bhava of the native 's own kundali can serve as the lagna for readings about the paternal grandfather

    6th-from-Surya = father's health, father's enemies, father's debt, father's ministry of service

  4. 7th-from-Surya = father's consulting-advising relationships, father's contracts and alliances, father's ability to negotiate and bargain

  5. 8th-from-Surya = father's secrets, father's ability to manage catastrophic change and emergencies, father's unknown resources, father's conditions of death

  6. 9th-from-Surya = father's world travels, father's university scholarship, father's wisdom; father's third marriage.

  7. 10th-from-Surya = father's profession, father's leadership roles, father's social dignity and reputation

    • Count backward 4 before Surya = 10th-from-Surya = (father's basis) = mother-of-Father = one's paternal grandmother.

    • Whether or not this person is actually known to the native , 25% of one's genetic material comes from this person.

    • If the birth data for the paternal grandmother is not available, this bhava of the native 's own kundali can serve as the lagna for readings about the paternal grandmother

    11th-from-Surya = father's gainful income, father's friendship network, father's ability to achieve material goals,

    • Count backward 3 from Surya = 11th from Surya = father's immediate elder sibling

    12th-from-Surya = father's dreams, father's private world, father's access to spiritual guidance and sanctuary retreat, father's hospitalization or imprisonment (or his work in these enclosures) father's residence in distant lands

matters of the Mother predictable predictable from Chandra Lagna


Example:

dramatist, philanthropist Angelina Jolie

Mother = Chandra lagna Meena-Revati, in auspicious dharma bhava forming Chandra-Mangala-yoga with swakshetra Guru. Ms. Jolie manifested a highly favorable and fortunate mother overall.

Elder sibling = 11th-from-Chandra = Makara. No graha in Makara, and Lord Shani occupies Mithuna-12. This relationship is defined by Shani-obligation-restriction and whatever content it has is hidden from the public.

Maternal grandmother (mother's mother) = Dhanushya = bhava-6. Working class personality (6) yet the lord Guru is favorable for long-term comfort, and the maternal grandmother is philosophical.

Maternal grandfather (mother's father) = Karkata containing Shukra. It could be said from a Jyotisha perspective that Ms. Jolie gets most of her striking grace and beauty from her mother's father. Shukra is favorable from the Karkata lagna, yet Shukra is not a friend of the Moon, so despite nice material improvement in the grandparents' lifestyle there might have been a bit of culture conflict across the generations.

Overall Ms. Jolie is well supported on her mother's side of the family via Chandra, Guru, and Shukra.

  1. Chandra = mother herself = her vitality. Whether or not this person is actually known to the native , 50% of one's genetic material comes from this person.

  2. 2nd-from-Chandra = the mother's wealth-and-knowledge treasury, the mother's family history; mother's eyes and voice; mother's second marriage

  3. 3rd-from-Chandra = mother's commerce and writings; mother's mentality; mother's hands and lungs

    • Count forward 3 from Chandra = 3rd from Chandra = mother's immediate younger sibling

    • Count forward 3 from Chandra = One's own younger sibling

    4th-from-Chandra = mother's childhood home, mother's schooling, mother's emotional security, mother's vehicles, mother's owned property, mother's heart.

    • Heart health for mother = any graha in 4th from Chandra should be favorable from Chandra lagna. E.g. from Makara-Chandra, unfavorable L-12 Guru in 4th from Chandra shows energy loss via enlarged heart.

    5th-from-Chandra = mother's romance, mother's politics and drama, mother's intelligence, mother's luck, mother's first child

    • Count backwards 9 before Chandra = Father-of-mother = one's own maternal grandfather.

    • Whether or not this person is actually known to the native , 25% of one's genetic material comes from this person.

    • If the birth data for the maternal grandfather is not available, this bhava of the native 's own kundali can serve as the lagna for readings about the maternal grandfather

    6th-from-Chandra = mother's health, mother's enemies, mother's debt, mother's ministry of service.

  4. 7th-from-Chandra = mother's consulting-advising relationships, mother's contracts and alliances, mother's ability to negotiate and bargain

  5. 8th-from-Chandra = mother's secrets, mother's ability to manage catastrophic change and emergencies, mother's unknown resources, mother's conditions of death

  6. 9th-from-Chandra = mother's world travels, mother's university scholarship, mother's wisdom.

  7. 10th-from-Chandra = mother's profession, mother's leadership roles, mother's social dignity and reputation

    • Count backward 4 before Chandra = Mother's mother (mother's basis) = one's own maternal grandmother.

    • Whether or not this person is actually known to the native , 25% of one's genetic material comes from this person.

    • If the birth data for the maternal grandmother is not available, this bhava of the native 's own kundali can serve as the lagna for readings about the maternal grandmother

    11th-from-Chandra = mother's gainful income, mother's friendship network, mother's ability to achieve material goals, mother's elder sibling

    • Count backward 3 from Chandra = 11th from Chandra = mother's immediate elder sibling

    • Count backward 3 from Chandra = 11th from Chandra = One's own elder sibling

    12th-from-Chandra = mother's dreams, mother's private world, mother's access to spiritual guidance and sanctuary retreat, mother's hospitalization or imprisonment (or her work in these enclosures) mother's residence in distant lands

B.V. Raman, A Catechism of Astrology. p. 29:

"Q. 36

Several astrologers hold that the 10th house governs father whereas you say in your books that the 9th rules father. Which is correct?

Ans.

Whatever may be the views of the several astrologers you refer to regarding the house ruling father, experience has clearly shown that the 9th is pitrusthana or house of father.

  • This is further supported by well-known ancient writers such as Mantreswara who observes thus [...] meaning that Acharya (preceptor), daivata (deity), pithru (father) are the names of the 9th house.

  • Vaidyanatha, author of the famous Jathaka Parijatha, also corroborates this.

  • My grandfather the late Prof. B. Suryanarain Rao inclines to the same view that 9th indicates father.

Apart from these authoritative views, take the horoscopes of persons whose fathers are well off in life, and you will invariable find the 9th and its lord strongly and beneficially disposed."

~~ George Burns

"Happiness is having a large, loving, caring, close-knit family

in another city."

BPHS Ch. 7, Shloka 39-43 "Dharma Bhava and the 9th from Surya deal with one's father."
Valmiki Ramayana, 2.111.2

From birth, there are three instructors of a man:

his guru, his father and his mother.

B.V. Raman,

Three Hundred Important Combinations,

p. 195

Matru Satrutwa Yoga: It occurs to us that

when the lords of the Navamshas

in which the Moon in the horoscopes of the mother and son are placed,

Are mutual enemies,

cordial feelings do not exist between them.

from ~~ Louise Hay "You Can Heal Your Life"

"I Believe That We Choose Our Parents

Each one of us decides to incarnate upon this planet at a particular point in time and space. We have chosen to come here to learn a particular lesson that will advance us upon our spiritual, evolutionary pathway.

  • We choose our sex, our color, our country, and then we look around for the particular set of parents who will mirror the pattern we are bringing in to work on in this lifetime.

Then, when we grow up, we usually point our fingers accusingly at our parents and whimper, "You did it to me." But really, we chose them because they were perfect for what we wanted to work on overcoming.

We learn our belief systems as very little children, and then we move through life creating experiences to match our beliefs. Look back in your own life and notice how often you have gone through the same experience.

Well, I believe you created those experiences over and over because they mirrored something you believed about yourself. It doesn't really matter how long we have had a problem, or how big it is, or how life-threatening it is. "

Sample Parent Charts

General patterns according to lagna:

Chandra = Mother.

  • For Kumbha lagna, Chandra = L-6

  • For Dhanushya lagna, Chandra = L-8

  • For Simha lagna, Chandra = L-12

In general, Kumbha lagna and Kumbha-Chandra natives have predictable difficulties with the Mother's health, her tendency to get into a conflicted relationship with others, and her financial indebtedness. Mother will probably have many redeeming qualities but her health is at issue and perhaps she is a health care professional also. Kumbha's mother is a service worker or servant or person of humble stature almost always.

In general, Dhanushya natives have a pattern of Mother being rather mysterious, secretive, and perhaps changing her personality or appearance a bit too often to permit the child to feel entirely secure.

In general, Simha lagna experiences Mother as an exceptional private person, withdrawn from the excitement of daily life, and often for Simha the Mother is also an alien in some sense, a foreigner, yearning for a distant land. In practical terms Mother may be a midlife or late life immigrant to a new land or region who never quite adjusted. Perhaps she followed the will of her husband's family and never felt quite comfortable in their customs. There can be numerous reasons why but the outcome is a withdrawn, prayerful, inward-looking mom who does not live life fully.

General patterns according to lagna:

Surya = Father.

  • For Meena lagna, Surya = L-6

  • For Makara lagna, Surya = L-8

  • For Kanya lagna, Surya = L-12

In general, Meena lagna and Meena-Chandra natives have predictable difficulties with the Father's health, his tendency to get into a conflicted relationship with others, and his financial indebtedness. Father will probably have many redeeming qualities but his health is at issue and perhaps he is a health care professional also. Meena's father is a service worker or servant or person of humble stature almost always.

In general, Makara natives have a pattern of Father being rather mysterious, secretive, and perhaps changing his personality or appearance a bit too often to permit the child to feel entirely secure.

In general, Kanya lagna experiences Father as an exceptional private person, withdrawn from the excitement of daily life, and often for Kanya the Father is also an alien in some sense, a foreigner, yearning for a distant land. In practical terms Father may be a midlife or late life immigrant to a new land or region who never quite adjusted. Perhaps he followed the will of his wife's family or his company or other authority, and never felt quite comfortable in the necessary customs. There can be numerous reasons why but the outcome is a withdrawn, prayerful, inward-looking dad who does not live life fully.


Remarks. According to the above two combinations, the 4th house must be occupied by a benefic or it must have an exalted planet or the sign in the 4th house must be a friendly one to the planet situated there. The combination is very flexible and is capable of loose interpretation. Just because the 4th house happens to be a benefic sign, it cannot make one an angel. On the contrary, it is the 4th lordthat we have to look to. So long as the 4th lord does not conjoin Rahu or Saturn or if he conjoins, so long as there is the aspect of Jupiter or Venus, preferably Jupiter, there is no fear of the person being a hypo crite. The above two combinations are given for what they are worth. But in our opinion, great care must be exercised in applying them to actual horoscopes.

Mother and Relatives,

behavior in the Home

B. V. Raman's description of Yoga

from 300 Important Combinations

B.V. Raman's Remarks regarding the Yoga

193 and 194.

Bandhu Pujya Yogas

Definition 193

  • If the benefic lord of the 4th

  • is Aspected by another benefic

  • And Mercury is situated in Lagna ,

The above yoga is given rise to.

Definition 194.

  • The 4th house or the 4th lord

  • should have the Association or aspect of Jupiter.

Results.

  • The person will be respected by his relatives and friends.

[BV Raman] Remarks. A slight distinction is to be noted in the results suggested between the combinations 193 and 194.

  • The former makes one respected by his relatives

  • while the latter makes one loved by his relatives.

In actual practice, it is difficult to differentiate between the two.

Respect may be shown for one's character, integrity and great qualities of head and heart while in showing love, other considerations may set in.

The first combination refers to the benefic lord of The 4th.

  • This means that it is applicable to those born in Mesha, Mithuna, Kartaka, Dhanus and Meena.

The 2nd combination is more general and broad- based.

195.

Bandhu-bhisthyaktha Yoga

bis= to split, cast, or throw

Definition 195.

  • The 4th lord must be associated with malefics

  • Or occupy evil shashtiamsas

  • Or join inimical

  • Or debilitation signs.

Results.

  • The person will be deserted by his relatives.

Remarks. The yoga takes into account three circumstances, viz.,

(a) the 4th lord must be in evil shashtiamsa ;

(b) he must be associated with malefic planets; and

(c) he must occupy his place of debilitation or that of an enemy.

According to our humble experience, much reliance cannot be placed on this particular yoga because of its very general nature.

One possessing this combination could be misunderstood by his associates, friends and relatives -- ostensibly for no fault of his own.

196 and 197.

Matru-deerghayur Yogas

Definition 196.

  • A benefic must occupy the 4th

  • The 4th lord must be exalted ,

  • And the Moon must be strong .

Definition 197.

  • The lord of the navamsa occupied by the 4th lord should be strong

  • And Occupy a kendra from Lagna

  • As well as from Chandra Lagna .

Results.

  • the native 's mother will live long.

Remarks.

These two combinations give a clue for ascertaining the longevity of one's mother.

  • The 4th lord,

  • The Moon

  • And the 4th house

must all be strong and free from evil aspects and association.

Even assuming that the 4th house is afflicted, long life for the mother can be predicted

  • if the Moon is waxing

  • And occupies a friendly place

  • which should be a kendra or a thrikona from the 4th lord.

[BPL: as Shri Raman confirms, matters specific to the mother are best read from Chandra lagna . Other protection and belonging items, such as general effects of the childhood home, homeland, parents, and relatives in the compound or extended physical family, are read accurately from 4th lord, 4th house, 4th navamsha etc.]

198 and 199.

Matru-nasa Yogas

Definition 198.

  • The Moon should be hemmed in between, associated with or aspected by evil planets.

Definition 199.

  • The planet owning the navamsha, in which the lord of the navamsha occupied by the 4th lord is situated,

  • should be disposed in the 6th, 8th or 12th house.

Results.

  • The person's mother will have a very early death.

Remarks.

According to combination 198, the Moon should be afflicted in order to render a man lose his mother early.

Here affliction means, being subjected to

  • Papakarthari Yoga,

  • Or being aspected by or conjoined with malefics.

One of the three conditions must prevail.

If all the three are present , the mother will die immediately after the birth of the subject.

  • If the Moon is in conjunction with Saturn but aspected by Jupiter,

  • Or the Moon is in the 4th subjected to the above influences,

Then the Yoga for killing the mother is there, but he benefic aspect of Jupiter delays the event.

A dded to this disposition, if the 4th lord is also afflicted, then early death to the mother is inevitable.

200.

and

Matru-gami Yoga

Definition 200.

  • The Moon or Venus should join a kendra in conjunction with or aspected by a malefic ,

  • A nd an evil planet should occupy the 4th house.

Results.

  • The person will be guilty of committing adultery with his own mother.

Remarks.

No greater sin can be conceived of than association with one's own mother. Unless a man is utterly shameless and completely depraved of all feelings of conscience, he cannot be guilty of such a heinous crime as the one mentioned in this combination.

Here, by the term mother is implied

  • not only the lady who has given birth to the person

  • (step-mother also included)

  • but also to ladies who are held in equal esteem,

  • viz., T he ruler's wife, preceptor's wife, brother's wife, wife's mother

  • And his own mother.

The Moon is the karaka of the mind and also mother. Venus is the karaka of sexual passions. According to this combination, T he Moon and Venus should be afflicted in the manner suggested.

A dultery in any form is a consequence of mental filth and therefore both the planets and particularly the Moon must be devoid of association or aspect, The Moon and Venus if one is to entertain healthy thoughts.

201. Saho-daree-sangama Yoga

dari = Opening, splitting

Definition 201.

  • If the lord of the 7th and Venus

  • Are in conjunction in the 4th house

  • And are aspected by or associated with malefics

  • Or are in cruel shashtiamsas,

The above yoga is given rise to.

Results.

  • The person will be guilty of intercourse with his own sisters.

Remarks.

The combination is simple and does not require further elucidation.

Intimacy with a sister is as heinous a crime as with a mother or a lady equal to a mother but men sometimes behave worse than beasts for the gratification of their bestial instincts.

The best safeguard against any form of sexual immorality is an unafflicted disposition of Venus.

202 to 204.

Kapata Yogas

kapata = dishonesty, fraud , deceit , cheating , circumvention

Definition 202.

  • The 4th house must be joined by a malefic

  • A nd the 4th lord must be associated with or aspected by malefics

  • Or be hemmed in between malefics

Definition 203.

  • The 4th must be occupied by Shani, Kuja, Rahu

  • A nd the malefic 10th lord , who in his turn should be aspected by malefics.

Definition 204.

  • The 4th lord must join Saturn, Mandi and Rahu

  • And aspected by malefics.

Results.

  • The person becomes a hypocrite.

Remarks.

Inmy leading articles in The astro­logical magazine, I have clearly shown that the first-rate malefics, viz., Saturn, Mars and Rahu, should occupy such positions in the horoscopes of political leaders and statesmen, as would render them absolutely harmless.

Whenever there is a

  • conjunction between Saturn-Rahu, Saturn-Mars and Mars-Rahu,

  • The person will always be Actuated by selfish and mean motives.

Kapata Yogas are to be found in the charts of diplomats, for diplomacy always implies dignified hypocrisy.

The 4th rules the heart and the presence there of these incendiary planets makes the person conceal his real feelings and gives an impure heart.

T hese three combinations are of common occurrence in the horoscopes of ordinary people.

Some are very hypocritical by nature and they seldom give out their minds.

Much more than a malefic afflicting the 4th house, the Association of Saturn or Rahu with the 4th lordis not desirable.

205 and 206.

Nish-kapata Yogas

Definition 205

  • The 4th house must be occupied by a benefic,

  • Or a planet in exaltation, friendly or own house,

  • Or the 4th house must be a benefic sign.

Definition 206.

  • Lord of Lagnashould join the 4th in conjunction with or aspected by a benefic

  • Or occupy Parvata or Uttamamsa.

Results.

  • The person will be pure-hearted and hates secrecy and hypocrisy.

According to the above two combinations, the 4th house must be occupied by a benefic or it must have an exalted planet or the sign in the 4th house must be a friendly one to the planet situated there.

The combination is very flexible and is capable of loose interpretation.

Just because the 4th house happens to be a benefic sign, it cannot make one an angel. On the contrary, it is the 4th lord that we have to look to.

So long as the 4th lord does not conjoin Rahu or Saturn or if he conjoins, so long as there is the aspect of Jupiter or Venus, preferably Jupiter, there is no fear of the person being a hypocrite.

The above two combinations are given for what they are worth. But in our opinion, great care must be exercised in applying them to actual horoscopes.

207.

Matru Satru-atwa Yoga

Definition 207.

  • Mercury, being Lord of Lagna and the 4th, must join with or be aspected by a malefic.

Results.

  • The person will hate his mother.

Remarks.

Evidently this combination is applicableonly to Mithuna Lagna horoscopes. For in regard to no other sign can Mercury become the Lord of Lagnaand the 4th.

It occurs to us that

  • when the lords of the Navamshas

  • in which the Moon in the horoscopes of the mother and son are placed,

  • Are mutual enemies,

cordial feelings do not exist between them.

T his is only an observation and must be further tested before it could be raised to the distinction of an astrological principle.

208.

Matru Sneha Yoga

sneha = Oiliness, smoothness; tenderness, love, attachment to, fondness or affection for; friendship with

Definition 208.

  • The 1st and 4th houses must have a common lord ,

  • Or the lords of the 1st and 4th must be temporal or natural friends

  • Or aspected by benefics.

Results.

  • Cordial relations will prevail betweenmother and son.

Remarks .

The 1st and 4th houses can have common lords Only in respect of Mithuna and Dhanus.

When the lords of Lagna and the 4th are mutual friends or atkalika friends, the yoga is said to prevail.

Here also, he relative Navamsa lords , adverted to in regard to combination 207, may be applied with advantage.


BPLNote:

  • atkalika = simultaneous, lasting the same length of time, equally long:

  • lagna for which L-1 and L-4 are not natural friends = Vrishabha, Kanya, Vrischika, Makara , and Meena


First, Read the Parents from Chandra lagna

A child's relationship to the parents is primarily and profoundly emotional. Although many public, external details of the mother's and father's material attributes may be detected in the 4th (mother) and 9th (father) domains as measured from radix lagna, the child's own perception and evaluation of his parents as loving or distant, helpful or negligent, easy or difficult, will be more accurately portrayed via 4th- and 9th- from Chandra.

Moon is the emotional core of being, the center of one's psychic sea. It is essential to measure the effect of the parents first from the point which represents the emotional core: Chandra lagna.

The mother may have an exalted social position such as a respected moral authority schoolteacher (perhaps Soma in radix bhava-4 or bhava-9) yet 4th-from-Chandra may contain a malefic that reveals bitterness or emotional repression at home. The child may experience the mother as less than wonderful.

Always compare radix bhava-4 to the 4th-from-Chandra to gain a clearer picture of the tender, personality-catalyzing early childhood years at home.

Similarly for father, the 9th-from-Chandra gives a much more accurate view of the child's emotional relationship to his father than bhava-9 of radix which indicates the father's public, priestly behaviors.


Step-Mother

In any nativity, Step-mother can be indicated by disruptive influences upon radical bhava-4.

If there is some destabilizing, upsetting factor in the 4th sthana which might suggest sudden changes to the mother or to the foundations of life, then the placement of Chandra in 11 becomes auspicious for forming a healthy and self-advancing relationship with the father's second wife.

Chandra-11 also indicates a maternal-style nourishing and protective relationship with any women who enter the life in the role as an agent of "suddenly changed home" 8th-from-4th.


Extended Family, Relatives of Parents

  • Mother's relatives as a group = bhava-6 (6 = 3rd-from-4th)

  • Father's relatives as a group = bhava-11 (11 = 3rd-from-9th)

Naturally, bhava-6 is a troublesome bhava, associated with broken contracts, jealousy, and internal imbalance. The mother's relatives especially her siblings and especially her younger siblings are on a par with servants of the house. They drain her commitment to her marriage contract.

Chandra in bhava-6 shows the mother firmly attached to her siblings no matter what trouble may arise. And bhava-being the house of trouble, there will be plenty of it.

In traditional societies where the mother's younger siblings may be housed in her husband's home, the mother's siblings are often kept as servants either to her or to the household (4).

bhava-11 is much more gainful but as 6th-from-6th, the father's relatives are necessarily at loggerheads with the mother's relatives. The child grows up with a natural understanding of the different agendas between the two groups which are bound in delicate alliance by one's parents.

The most extreme animosity between mother's family and father's family is indicated by certain yogas, such as Chandra in 6 + Surya in 11 (each parent is identified very strongly with their own family, and the two in-law families are unappreciative of each other); or perhaps a dushtamsha lord in either bhava-6 or bhava-11.


One's own Parenting Style

Parenting is a profoundly emotional behavior which is driven by habit, fear, and dogma as well as love, hope, and brilliant ideals. Some parents indulge their children; some are disciplinarians; some insist on absolute obedience; others are great believers in creativity, exploration, and learning from colossal mistakes. Naturally parenting is influenced by the culture of origin; and parenting style is nearly pre-determined by the conditions of one's own childhood, whether for better or worse.

In preparation for marriage, one of the first and most important negotiating points will be the matter of children and their upbringing. If children are to be brought into the union, what level of agreement can be reached about how to raise them? This is not a trivial question, as more than a few divorces present incompatible parenting as their primary complaint.

To assess one's own parenting style, look to the way in which one was raised:

  • 4th-from-Chandra = emotional conditions = the most vivid and memorable = security of belongingness and trust that one will be cared for. See here the mother's childhood which largely shapes her parenting style

  • 4th-from-lagna = material conditions = schooling, housing; occupants of bandhu bhava is show persons and items in the childhood home

  • father's family = 4th-from-Surya; see here the father's childhood, which largely shapes his parenting style

Are the two partners' parenting styles at loggerheads? The conflict or incommensurability might be negotiable if its terms are understood.

See Case study: Brad Pitt Angelina Jolie diversity of parenting styles for a step-by-step evaluation of cooperative parenting choices.


Parents measured from Chandra lagna

A profile of the behavioral and psychological traits of the mother and father may be obtained using the native s own birth chart.

  • Measure from the Chandra lagna to indicate Mother

  • Measure from the rashi which = 9th-from-Chandra to indicate the Father.

Below, the nativity of a woman whose hard-working father had chronic difficulties in successfully taking advice and maintaining relationships (including marriage).Father-lagna = 9th-from-Chandra = Vrischika.

From Vrischikha, the father's relationships =7th-from = Ketu; furthermore, Ketu's lord and karaka for relationships = Shukra = in the relative 8th-from-Vrischika.


The male native below suffers from chronic alcoholism. B. V. Raman's classic profile for Alcoholism = Mesha or Kanya lagna + affliction to Shukra. In the nativity, see Mesha-Chandra + Shukra badly afflicted by Ketu (proximity within 1 degree).

According to the native , his deceased father was also an alcoholic, thrice-married, and generally dissatisfied in his relationships with women. Native's father = 9th-from-Chandra = Dhanusha. From Dhanusha lagna, Shukra + Ketu occupies relative 6th house.

Shukra/6 = a common Jyotisha indicator for alcoholism, diabetes, and sugar-starch imbalances; plus chronic conflict with the sweet things in life, especially women. Shukra + Ketu = a low/no boundaries problem; the native will pleasure-binge, causing (eventually severe) depletion of life vitality. Native's father died quite young.


Eleanor Roosevelt's father = 9th-from-Chandra = Karkata. Shukra is terribly afflicted in 3rd-from-Karkata. Shukra = neechcha + Rahu. Her father had a great deal of trouble with sexual profligacy and various addictions (including alcohol); he died in an insane (3) asylum.

Although tests for venereal (Shukra) disease were not given to the aristocracy in those days, and Shani/Mithuna rules 8th-from-Karkata so that the facts of the case may forever be shrouded in a 'news blackout', the Jyotisha nativity suggests that he may have died from syphilis (neechcha Shukra + Rahu).

Conditions of death may be known from the 8th, or from 8th-from-8th, = bhava-3.


Hillary Rodham Clinton has expressed great admiration for her father's life and moral character. She resembles her father physically as well. 9th-from-Chandra = Thula, the native 's own lagna.

Thula lagna hosts the neechcha-bhanga Surya (very strong will-power!) plus swakshetra Shukra (attractive and diplomatic) plus the L-9+L-12 Budha (religiosity particularly prayer).

Clearly Mrs. Clinton's relationship to her father was very positive. Because 9th-from-Chandra = her own lagna, her life duplicates her father's successes (and his failures) in many ways.


< G. W. Bush - 43's father, as experienced by the native = 9th-from-Chandra = Rahu in Vrishabha . The implication is that the younger Bush experiences his father G.H.W. Bush-41 as a man whose life is mainly directed by a profound and perhaps obsessive desire (Rahu) for money, capital, beauty, music, wines, fine fabrics, wealth, luxuries, and every variety of sensual pleasure.

In the younger George Bush's nativity, the father-house Vrishabha occupies 11th-from-son's radix, suggesting that his father's main role in the son's life was as a supreme networker, connecting the son to an extraordinary international (Rahu) network of the tremendously wealthy. Rahu's lord Shukra occupies the native 's lagna, indicating a strong bond of money, pleasure, and attractive physical appearance between the father and the son.


Karakas for Parents:

Surya and Chandra are the primary karakas of Father and Mother.

  • The angles of Surya-to-Chandra = the central yoga of any nativity.

  • This angle represents the relationship between the father and the mother, which the native will internalize into his own personality as the relationship between his rational-ethical and emotional-intuitive selves.

Afflictions to Chandraindicate trouble in the mother's core personality or perhaps damage to her appearance. Neechcha Chandra unless rescued via parivartamsha nearly always indicates a fundamentally difficult emotional relationship to the mother. Measure her life experience from one's own Chandra lagna.

For example, the actress Jennifer Aniston has a Vrischika Chandra yuti her L-6 Mangala. Naturally there is conflict and disappointment with the mother. While Chandra-Mangala yoga is excellent for money, it is very damaging to the relationship with the mother; the press has reported that Ms. Aniston refused to speak with her mother for many years.

bhava-4 represents the native 's childhood family home. typically the home culture is dominated by the mother and her relatives. 4th-from-Chandra = the mother's childhood home. (Naturally the mother will reproduce her childhood home conditions as the environment in which she raises her own children.)

  • Parental influence as a unified general effect is seen through bhava-4 and its lord.

bhava-10 represents the spouse's parentsin their leadership and public role-modeling behaviors. For insight into the spouse's mother in particular, see 4th-from-7th-from-Chandra and its lord.

Individually, the spouse's fathermay be seen through bhava-3, from 9th-from-7th-from-Chandra, (and its lord) or via 9th-from the house of the current marriage.


Varga significators for Parents:

In Jyotisha, as in any type of divinatory reading, There is no one single indicatorwhich proves a correct assessment.

Divination is the science of symbolic pattern recognition.

A correct assessment depends on recognition ofpatterns Andrecurring signals.

Ideally there should be at least one important indicator in each of the relevant vargaswhich invokes and confirms the recurring pattern.


For matters regarding parents, The important vargasare D-1, D-9, and D-12.

  • D-1 indicators for Father = Surya AND radix L9, plus any graha yuti Surya or occupying bhava-9.

  • D-1 indicators for Mother = Chandra AND radix L4, plus any graha yuti Chandra or occupying bhava-4.

    • In general, bhava-4 represents the childhood home.bhava-4 can represent both parents, as a unified force in the child's early life.

    • Chandra is a more particular indicator of the Mother and her extremely powerful effect on the child's psycho-emotional security and self-image.

    D-9 indicators for Father = the navamsha lord of the graha which is radix L9, seen in the Radixplus conditions of the 9th navamsha. See also Surya in navamsha.

  • D-9 indicators for Mother = the navamsha lord of the graha which is radix L4, seen in the Radixplus conditions of the 4th navamsha. See also Moon in navamsha.

  • D-12 Dwadamsha indicators for Father = Surya or radix L9, whichever is stronger. Also consider the dwadashamsha lord of radix L9, as seen in radix.

  • D-12 indicators for Mother = Chandra or radix L4, whichever is stronger. Also consider the dwadashamsha lord of radix L4, as seen in radix.


    Assessment points = parents

    Parents

    Lord of Chandra

    The karaka nature of the lord of Chandra will determine the quality of this concern; e.g. Guru gives a generous perspective whereas Shani places the subject into a state of survival.

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    Lord of Chandra in 1st from Chandra - parents esp mother may be emotionally fixated upon concerns regarding psycho-emotional or gender identity, or physical appearance.

    Lord of Chandra in 2nd from Chandra - parents esp mother may be emotionally fixated upon concerns regarding accumulated wealth or collected knowledge.

    Lord of Chandra in 3rd from Chandra - parents esp mother may be emotionally fixated upon concerns regarding siblings, writings, business administration, or short term travels. There may be issues of mental health for the parents if the graha is not positive.

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    Lord of Chandra in 5th from Chandra - parents esp mother may be emotionally fixated upon concerns regarding games, speculative ventures, creative output, politics or drama..

  • Lord of Chandra in 6th from Chandra - parents esp mother may be emotionally fixated upon concerns regarding loan debt, poverty, medicines and drugs, health issues, or animosity.

  • Lord of Chandra in 7th from Chandra - parents esp mother may be emotionally fixated upon concerns regarding their personal and professional relationships, counseling and advising, or matters of the law courts.

    Lord of Chandra in 8th from Chandra - parents esp mother may be emotionally fixated upon concerns regarding secret information, hidden wealth, or occult mysteries.

    Lord of Chandra in 9th from Chandra - parents esp mother may be emotionally fixated upon concerns regarding religious performance, public piety ,university, house of worship, or public moral guidance .

    Lord of Chandra in 10th from Chandra - parents esp mother may be emotionally fixated upon concerns regarding social class, status, dignity, career or professional rank, and public reputation.

    Lord of Chandra in 11th from Chandra - parents esp mother may be emotionally fixated upon concerns regarding social networks, scientific community, marketplace, social-progress movements, or economic participation.


  • Psychologically, the relationship between mother andamp; father, receptive andamp; productive, public andamp; private, is the'spine' of the native 's personality.

  • The parental relationship forms the basis of the native 's social personality.

  • This angles shows how the native manages the boundary membrane between inner, emotional self and outer, public self.


Angles of Surya-to-Chandra

representing the mother-father relationship

All of these parental relationship-angles can be loving andamp; faithful. Some are easier than others.

1-1

Parents think and act the same way toward each other, and share an identical worldview.

The mother's spirit is somewhat overshadowed. Father's style and opinions may dominate their relationship.

There is probably a clear inner-vs-outer or public-private division of labor in the parental relationship, and often a two-person career in which the mother's unpaid duties provide essential professional advancement service for the father's career promotion.

2-12

Parents hidethings from each other; there is suspicious activityandamp; subtle distruSaint

One parent may be away frequently, either by physical traveling, or by psycho-mental withdrawal into their own head.

3-11

Parents are communicative, competitive Andamp;friendly in their relationship with each other.

The y interact more casually than intimately, more like friends or siblings.

4-10

Parents are stable, respectable Andamp;organized.

The ir life is divided into separate public andamp; private domains. They value order and achievement.

5-9

Parents are creative + enthusiastic in their relationship with each other.

The y love children, have true faith, and intend to enjoy a good life. Natural philosophers and teachers.

6-8

Parents are mutually hostile, sick, or conflicted.

Difficult or exhausting work, struggle with poverty, or long-term illness must be endured. Disagreements and sudden, forced changes.

7-1

Parents are cooperatively involved, but withattraction through Oppositenatures.

The y like to make decisions via interactive negotiation. Eventually they find an agreeable way to accommodate their opposing interests.


Different siblings = different parental effects:

  • Each child in the family may have a completely different perception of their parents' relationship, based on the child's own karmic requirements.


Single-parent homes, adoptive homes, grandparent's home, creative non-traditional homes:

  • Many homes do not have a two physical parents, especially two physical biological parents.

  • Children raised in boarding schools, kibbutzim, etc. all discover their Surya-Chandra core through input from diverse men and women

  • Some home have two dads, two moms, grandparents as parents, etc. There are many ingenious possibilities that can match the child's karmic requirements!


Different kinds of mothers, loss of birth mother, single mothers andamp; Surya

  • Most children will have some form of a mother. This mother has relationships with various men whom she attracts in order to mirror her own active, rational nature. These men are her lovers, father, brother, male relatives and friends, perhaps close co-workers, priests or teachers involved with the child's family, etc.

  • The child may perceive the energetically male energy to come primarily from their mother and not their father, particularly if the father is absent. Here see Surya in one of the mother's domains, such as yuti Chandra, in bhava-4, etc.

  • Any early loss of the birth mother, including losses which are compensated somewhat such as acquiring an adoptive mother, is represented by damage to the Moon.

  • Sometimes the mother is very distant - see this in Chandra's detachment, such as Chandra yuti Rahu-Ketu.

  • Sometimes a male caretaker is exceptionally maternal: see this in string lunar influences upon Ravi.


Father

Profile of father is composed by combining the effects of:

  1. 9th-from-Chandra

  2. Dharma bhava andamp; L-9

  3. Surya andamp; 9th-from-Surya

  4. 9th-from-9th, Putra bhava

  5. role of L-9 andamp;/or Surya in Dwadashamsha (D-12) [whichever is stronger]


Profile of the Father

Surya and dharma bhava

Surya and dharma bhava will give a clear profile of the father's public position, and the status his society applies to him.

The father who is steady, reliable, and responsible in public life will be exhibited in the D-1 as a dignified Sun, or a well-aspected 9th house.

  • If the 9th lord is well situated for example the father may be the paragon of religious virtue - at least on the outside!

  • If both Surya and 9th-from-Surya are dignified, the father enjoys a strong public image through his own father. He receives help from his own father, and may bask in the glow of respect which the family's male line produces

  • If by contrast Surya is strong but 9th-from-Surya is weak, one's own father might be an excellent public performer while the father's father is persona non grata.

  • 6th-from-Surya = health challenges, medications (legal and illegal) financial challenges, potential addictions, enemies, arguments, and relationship conflict (esp for first marriage) in the life of one's father

  • stepfather or significant additional father-figure = 8th from Surya added to the significations of bhava-4 (8th from 9th).

    • If the mother marries three times or more, find additional stepfathers via 8th-from iterations.

    • For example, profile of Stepfather #2 (third father-figure) = 3rd-from-Surya (= 8th-from-8th-from Surya) added to the significations of bhava-11 (8th-from-8th-from-9th).


9th-from-Chandra

Generally after the age of 32 we can read the person's life from Chandra lagna just as well or better as from D-1 lagna.

  • Chandra lagna shows our emotional [astral] condition - the view from the "inside".

  • Awareness of the inner astral condition starts to emerge after the 2nd Saturn return, which is finished at about 31. This is the beginning of objective awareness of other people's feelings.

  • 9th-from-Chandra will expose the emotional behavior of the father. This might be radically different and/or contradictory to the Sun's profile. If Surya or dharma bhava is strong while 9th-from-Chandra is weak, harsh, or abusive, we see the classic situation of the father receiving public respect and approval for following his social customs properly, while simultaneously acting out at home.

  • For example, a difficult Shani in 9th-from-Chandra gives the father emotional handicap from fear resulting in numerous abusive behaviors toward the child, including long separations and negligence. A difficult Mangala situation in 9th-from-Chandra reveals anger or aggression. Etc.

Afflictions to 9th and 9th lord give early death of father. 9th lord in 8th is a typical setup for early death of father.


Dwadashamsha for Father

9th-from-lagna or 9th-from-Surya [whichever is stronger] in the D-12 Dwadashamsha should be considered along with D-1 factors, for getting the full picture of the father. [Must have an accurate birth-time to obtain an accurate varga.]

  • The 9th house in D-12 shows the guidance and protection received from father.

  • L9 in D-12 shows father's bodily appearance and personality.

  • 9th-from-Surya or 9th-from-lagna will show the father's role in the outside world, i.e. profession and contribution to society


Mother

Profile of Mother is gained through examination of:

  1. Chandra

  2. bhava-4 = bandhu bhava

  3. Lord of bandhu-4th

  4. 4th-from-Chandra

  5. 4th-from-lagna in Dwadashamsha D-12 - or - 4th-from-Chandra in Dwadashamsha D-12 [whichever is stronger]


A man stopped at a flower shop for ordering some flowers to be sent as a gift to his mother who lived two hundred miles away.

As he got out of his car he noticed a young girl sitting on the curb sobbing.

He asked her what was wrong and she replied, "I wanted to buy a red rose for my mother. But I only have seventy-five cents, and a rose costs two dollars."

The man smiled and said, "Come on in with me. I'll buy you a rose."

He bought the little girl her rose and ordered his own mother's flowers.

As they were leaving he offered the girl a ride home. She said, "Yes, please! You can take me to my mother."

She directed him to a cemetery, where she placed the rose on a freshly dug grave.

The man returned to the flower shop, canceled the gifting order, picked up a bouquet and drove the two hundred miles to his mother's house.


Chandra and Bandhu bhava

The human being's relationship to his/her mother is the most intense and grounding psycho-emotional bond within the entire incarnation. This bond forms the secure (or not) foundation for all later endeavors.

The mother is assigned to give the child unconditional love. If she succeeds in that assignment all will be well for the child in later life. If she fails, and substitutes conditional love (or no love at all), the child will struggle terribly unless and until they are mature enough to recognize that unconditional love can be accessed directly from the divine.

  • When things are going well in the 4th house and with the Moon in the rashi chart, we can say with confidence that things are going well throughout the incarnation. When there is a permanent emotional undertow which results in low self-trust and confidence (con=with, fide=faith) throughout the lifetime.

  • Unlike the situation with the father where we frequently see a two-faced or three-faced effect on the youngster, there is no margin for diversity in the relationship with the mother. She is either unconditional loving at her core, or she is not.

  • Even the smallest condition placed upon the child's eligibility to receive love will cramp that child's later capability to trust others. However, because human mothers are responsible for their children's early moral education, they must apply some conditions in order to produce sociable children. Therefore all human children must suffer some degree of emotional trauma, when the mother even temporarily withdraws her love as a way of behavioral conditioning.

  • Aspects to the Moon and the fourth house, the Moon's lord, the 4th lord, and the 4th Dwadashamsha, will tell us the extent of this trauma.

  • As with any other karmic situation, emotional dysfunction represented by difficult position of Moon can be completely resolved through conscious awareness.

  • When the individual evolves to the point where they can recognize the missing unconditional love as emanating from the divine, they take the necessary steps to connect firmly and consistently with supreme energy. Thus a crippling emotional breakdown of maternal trust can be the springboard to lasting bliss.

If you have a troubled Moon your spirit is quite likely trying to show you a fast-track to pure and everlasting love! However the childhood must be a dark night of the soul in order for this path of later spiritual consciousness to develop.

Afflictions to 4th and 4th lord give early death of mother. 4th lord in a dushthamsha house, or harsh aspects to Moon or 4th lord, is a typical setup for early death of mother.


Dwadashamsha for Mother

The D-12 = Dwadashamsha aids development of the full profile of the mother.

  • The 4th house in D-12 shows the love and unconditional acceptance as well as the home conditions set by the mother.

  • L-4 and Moon in D-12 = mother's bodily appearance and personality.

  • 4th-from-Chandra or 4th-from-lagna (whichever is stronger) will show the mother's character, and if she has a social profession you will see that too.


Step-parents

If present in this lifetime, yourstep-parents = 8th from the previous parent.

  • the 8th-from = sudden, forced changes

  • the 8th angle= inauspicious (because nobody likes sudden, forced changes!)

  • butif a favorable grahaoccupies the 8th-from slot, the actualoutcome of the change can bebeneficial.


Stepmother = = transformation of the form of the mother = 8th -from-4th = 11th-bhava

  • if a stepmother is designated in the script, read the prospects for successful bonding with this person via bhava-11 and its tenants.

Naturally if unfortunate graha occupy bhava-11, there could be plenty of drama in the stepmother department. L-6 in 11 forecasts animosity, esp jealousy, of the step-mother. However, if conditions in 11 are favorable -- especially if Chandra itself occupies labha bhava, there can be excellent results.

E.g.,

  • Abraham Lincoln = the political Uttaraashadha Chandra in 11. Young Lincoln formed a successful bond with his father's second wife after the early death of his beloved mother. The stepmother promoted young Abraham's education and supported his well-being through helping him achieve his goals in life (11). It is said defended the boy somewhat against his rather harsh father. While he never forgot his natural mother, Lincoln remained devoted to her. Her support for his education and general Confidence boosting (Uttaraashadha Surya ruled) allowed him to move from farmhand to lawyer eventually to USA president.

Step-father = transformation of the form of the father = 8th -from-9th = 4th-bhava

  • if a stepfather is designated in the script, read the prospects for successful bonding with this person via bhava-4 and drishti to bandhu bhava + its tenants.


The Path to Enlightenmentby H.H. the Dalai Lama, edited and translated by Glenn H. Mullin, :

"...Because there is no findable beginning to sentient life and cyclic existence, one must have had an infinite number of previous lives; and all other beings must share this same situation.

Thus it follows that there is no place in which we can say we have not taken birth and there is no sentient being we can say has not been our parent. In fact, each and every sentient being has been our parent countless times.

--the Third Dalai Lama


The kindness of the mother is chosen as the example of the intensity of kindness that all beings have shown us, because generally in samsara the mother's concern is something very strong and obvious.

  • We can see the kindness of a mother not only in humans but in animals.

  • A mother dog will starve herself to feed her pups and will die to protect them.

  • In the same way, even if our mother were strange to us in some ways she still would have instinctively and unconsciously shown us great kindness.

  • All beings have loved us in this very same way, sacrificing their food for us and even dying to protect us because their love for us was so strong.

  • The people who are friends, enemies, and strangers to us in this life showed us the great kindness of a mother in countless previous lives.

Actually, there is no imperative that mother love be the model used here if doing so should cause a problem. If we have serious problems in our relationship with our mother, or if we were orphans and an aunt or uncle brought us up, we could just as easily take whomever we feel has been most kind to us and use him or her as an alternative model. We then contemplate how all sentient beings have been born into this same relationship with us in countless previous lives and have shown us these same kindnesses. We have to learn to see all sentient beings in that person's image.

As a result of this meditation one gains a feeling of spontaneous familiarity with all other sentient beings, a recognition that they are somehow very close to us and very precious."


Chandra is the lagna for the emotional experience created by any type of relationship.

Chandra-lagna itself represents the birth-mother or primary caretaker in this life. Use Chandra-lagna as a baseline to measure all relative emotional relationships from one's own intimately emotional perspective.

  • Emotional relationship with the mother-replacements =8th-from-Chandra.

  • Similarly, the emotional relationship with one's father is represented by 9th-from-Chandra.

  • Emotional experience of a step-father is reckoned from 8th-from-9th-from-Chandra.

    • 9th-from-Chandra also represents one's own mother's emotional relationship to her own father, who would also be one's own maternal grandfather. If this is a troublesome house, look for trauma in the male lineage.

    • The mother will have selected a husband who replicates her father's own trauma. Most women marry their fathers in the sense of being strongly attracted to a man with familiar, if often difficult, emotional behavior pattern.

    • Even in arranged marriages, the parents are attracted to the character of a young man who intuitively fits with the family, usually by presenting a set of behaviors similar to the father.

    The material view of your mother's second husband as step-father to you would be 2nd-from-4thor 8th-from-10th= putra bhava, the 5th house. However the usually more important impact = emotional treatment of the fragile young native = 8th-from-9th-from-Chandra.

  • The material view of your father's third wife would be 9th-from-10th = 8th-from-8th-from-4th = Ari bhava, the 6th house (due to 6th house connotations this is rarely an easy relationship)

  • Your mother's third husband would be 9th-from-4th = 8th-from-8th-from-10th = vyaya bhava (another usually troublesome, dissolute arrangement)

Follow this logic of counting either parent's subsequent marriages (2nd, 9th, 4th, 11th, etc.) from the parent, = 8th-from-previous-opposite gender parent (8th, 3rd, 10th, 5th, etc.) to find the right person.

Counting either by marriages or by parent-replacements will get to the same place! In our era where third, fourth, and fifth marriages are increasingly common, this type of counting is very handy in finding the profile of the step-parent in question.

If one has a direct emotional relationship with a person, then measure the correct distance from the Moon to find the emotional qualities.

9th-from-Chandra = father and maternal grandfather; who are of course not the same person! See material differences in bhava-9 for father vs. bhava-11 for maternal grandfather, and also note the lords of these two different houses within the dwadashamsha.


-- A. S. Byatt

Motherhood has meant that I have written four fewer books,

but I know much more about life.

From Kindness, Clarity, and Insight 25th Anniversary Edition by The Fourteenth Dalai Lama, His Holiness Tenzin Gyatso, ed. .trans. Jeffrey Hopkins, co-ed. Elizabeth Napper, p 44 "In order to have a sense of closeness and dearness for others, you first train in acknowledging their kindness through using as a model a person in this lifetime who was very kind to yourself and then extending this sense of gratitude to all beings. Since, in general, in this life your mother was the closest and offered the most help, the process of meditation begins with recognizing all other sentient beings as like your mother. "

Q: when it comes to gleaning some information about the spiritual significance that one's paternal great uncle (granduncle) may play in one's life, to what house and/or planet should one investigate? Concerning the appropriate astrological entity to look at, I suspect that Rahu is the right one, though I'm not entirely sure. And, I can't really ascertain from what house one should extract such information.

A :

Namaste

If you mean the brother of the father of one's father, then the lagna (baseline) will be either Surya, or 9th-from-Chandra, or dharma bhava, or the lord of bhava-9.

As a first choice, take Surya as the lagna for material matters regarding the father.

However using 9th-from-Chandra as the lagna for finding answers to emotional matters within the family may be more fruitful.

Do both countings, one from Surya-lagna and one from the bhava which is 9th-from-Chandra; compare results.

Let us choose Surya as the baseline (appreciating that one may need to try the other baselines also depending on the nature of the question regarding the agent who is the grand-uncle).

First, find the father of the father = one's paternal grandfather

= 9th-from-Surya

Then, depending on whether the brother of the paternal grandfather = grand-uncle is elder or younger to the grandfather, count either clockwise 3 to the 3rd-from this house (younger sibling) or counterclockwise 3 to the 11th from this house (elder sibling).

Example:

  • 9th-from-Surya= Vrishabha = bhava-8

  • father's elder sibling would be 11th-from-Vrishabha = Meena. Note that, for Gandhi, Meena = the navamsha lagna containing atmakaraka Chandra, so this individual would have been quite influential in his spiritual development.

  • father's immediate younger sibling would be 3rd-from-Vrishabha = Karkata. In Gandhi's kundali, Karkata is a very public, visible place as karma bhava and containing Azlesa Chandra with Rahu (much intrigue).

If the sibling in question is not the immediate younger (3rd-from) but rather the younger-to-the-younger, go forward twice: 3rd-from = immediate younger, 3rd-from-3rd or five houses clockwise forward = the sibling immediately younger than one's immediate younger. In big families (like mine!) you might need to keep a record of who matches what house.

For inside emotional dynamics within a family, always count from Chandra. However for other matters such as public position count from Surya for men.

Wishing you best success in Jyotisha studies,

Sincerely,

Barbara Pijan Lama, Jyotisha

~~ H.H. Dalai Lama, An Open Heart: Practicing Compassion in Everyday Life. Nicholas Vreeland (Ed.), afterword by Khyongla Rato and Richard Gere.

"If we have been reborn time after time, it is evident that we have needed many mothers to give birth to us.... the first cause bringing about bodhicitta is the recognition that all beings have been our mother.

The love and kindness shown us by our mother in this life would be difficult to repay. She endured many sleepless nights to care for us when we were helpless infants. She fed us and would have willingly sacrificed everything, including her own life, to spare ours.

  • As we contemplate her example of devoted love, we should consider that each and every being throughout existence has treated us this way.

  • Each dog, cat, fish, fly, and human being has at some point in the beginningless past been our mother and shown us overwhelming love and kindness.

Such a thought should bring about our Appreciation.

  • ...if all other sentient beings who have been kind to us since beginningless time are suffering, how can we devote ourselves to pursuing merely our own happiness? To seek our own happiness in spite of the suffering others are experiencing is tragically unfortunate.

Therefore, it is clear that we must try to free all sentient beings from suffering. "

~~ H.H. Dalai Lama. (2003). Stages of Meditation.

Ven. Geshe Lobsang Jordhen, Losang Choephel Ganchenpa, and Jeremy Russell (Trans.).

"What do we mean when we speak of a truly compassionate kindness?

  • Compassion is essentially concern for others' welfare -- their happiness and their suffering.

Others wish to avoid misery as much as we do.

So a compassionate person feels concerned when others are miserable

and develops a positive intention to free them from it.

As ordinary beings,

  • our feeling of closeness to our friends and relatives is little more than an expression of clinging desire.

  • It needs to be tempered, not enhanced.

It is important not to confuse attachment and compassion....

A compassionate thought is motivated by a wish to help release beings from their misery."

Parenting = Bodhicitta


~~ H. H. Dalai Lama. The Dalai Lama's Book of Awakening

"What is bodhichitta? In Maitreya's 'Abhisamayalamkara', bodhichitta is described as having two motivating factors:

  • the first is genuine compassion towards all beings,

  • and the second is recognition of the need to attain full enlightenment in order to fulfill the welfare of others.

Indeed, to develop the altruistic mind of bodhichitta, it is not enough to have more compassion. Bodhichittamust be based on a compassion which carries a sense of responsibility so that you are willing to take upon yourself the task of helping others."

H.H. Dalai Lama, The Path to Tranquility.

Everyone Has Been a Mother

"The fact remains that the birth cycles of all sentient beings are beginningless,

and that countless times in previous lives we have each fulfilled the role of a mother.

  • The feeling of a mother for her child is a classic example of love.

  • For the safety, protection, and welfare of her children, a mother is ready to sacrifice her very life.

Recognizing this children should be grateful to their mothers

and express their gratitude by performing virtuous deeds. "

~~ H.H. Dalai Lama. (2004). 365 Dalai Lama: Daily Advice from the Heart, Matthieu Ricard (Ed.)

"We depend on others from the moment we are conceived.

  • The happiness and the future of our world,

    • all the facilities we have,

    • the simplest object that we use,

    • our very survival from day to day,

    • all result from the efforts of many people.

    Prayer and other spiritual practices also have a definite effect, but it is mainly human activity that shapes the world."

Compassion(a core element of parenting)


~~ H.H. Dalai Lama and Alexander Berzin. (1997). The Gelug/Kagyu Tradition of Mahamudra.

"The Sanskrit word for compassion, karuna, has the implication of "that which blocks or prevents bliss."

In general, when we develop compassion,

we develop very strongly the attitude that cannot bear the suffering of other beings.

We wish for it to end and for them to become free.

  • Although we do not actually experience others' suffering at that time,

  • the strength of the attitude that cannot bear their suffering causes our mind also to become unhappy.

  • This is the general sense in which compassion blocks bliss....

Only the power of a union of method andamp; wisdom-- namely the union of compassion,

as a greatly blissful awareness, and the discriminating awareness of voidness --

allows us to attain the total release of supreme nirvana, namely enlightenment. "

"And now my friends,

all that is true, all that is noble,

all that is just and pure,

all that is loveable and gracious,

whatever is excellent and admirable -

fill all your thoughts with these things."

~~ Epistle to the Philippians 4:8


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