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1929-1933 * POTUS-31

Great Depression

1921-1928 * USA Secretary of Commerce

co-author of 30 books * expert in mining and metallurgy

Herbert Clark Hoover (Huber)

Earthbody-Entry Tuesday-10-Aug-1874

Earthbody-Exit 20-Oct-1964 (age 90)


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1929-1933 * POTUS-31-partner

1917-1944 * National Leader of Girl Scouts

author of 30+ books

Lou Henry Hoover

Earthbody-Entry Sunday-29-Mar-1874

Earthbody-Exit 07-Jan-1944 (age 69)

nativity of Lou Henry Hoover

POTUS-31 = 1929 until 1933 * mining engineer, writer * Herbert Hoover * 1874-1964

birthdata from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herbert_Hoover * tentatively rectified by BP Lama

charts, graphs and tables produced by Shri Jyoti Star * adapted by BP Lama

Rising Nakshatra

Masculine Nativities

Pushya * Sidhya


BPL commentary

For Pushyami births of a masculine valence, the influence of rigid, chronological, lawful, enduring strictly structural sober serious systematic Shani can considerably affect the outcome.

For those born into the Shani-ruled paradigm of Vutkrita, elder persons, old rules, rigid structures, age and time, resistance to change, status hierarchies, social class barriers, large organizations, public opinion, bureaucracies, regulatory requirements, legal systems, and corporate or institutional officials may be especially influential.

Instructional guidance is provided from the civilizations of Asellus. Their purpose is the lawful, hierarchically ordered maintenance of the customary folk habits in the place of settlement.


Laws and Customs

Shani-ruled Pushyami gentlemen are often found at the director level of government, corporate, and institutional organizations. They combine the local sensibilities of security-seeking Chandra with the larger structural, legal frameworks of national and international regulation. Deeply patriotic and defensive by nature, Sidhya-born usually remain close to their roots while they obtain respected, socially recognized positions in institutions, bureaucracies, and agencies of government.

Sidhya-born are influential in the world and reputed for their culturally sensitive judgment. Found in all of the Chandra-karaka areas such as transportation, farming and fishing, home-building and real-estate, schools, houses of worship, and parenting, Tishya-born feel close to the land. Yet they are socially responsible, and usually elect to serve as judges, directors, or other official roles (Shani) that provide an orderly process (Shani) for governance of their place of settlement.

Pushyami may specialize in cultural boundary-protection, making of reserved areas both social and natural, lawful preservation of ethnic practices, and legal recognition for cultural minorities. Tisya fellows are particularly dedicated to environmental protection, land ownership, and property rights.

Themes of parental duty, civic responsibility, patriotism, dignity of the family, and foundational legal protections may contextualize Pushya's terrestrial experience. Applies also to Chandra in Pushyami.

QUOTATION from Shil-Ponde. (1939). Hindu Astrology Joytisha-Shastra. p 82.


"An earnest, thoughtful character,

intelligent and quite religious in his outlook.

  • Quite often a regular attendant at church services

  • and a supporter of church and religious activities.


Withal, he is possessed of the qualities which make for success in the material world,

and has the ability to rise in position

  • and to command the respect of his associates.

He will fill a position of executive requirements

  • and be admired and respected by his immediate family."


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Biographical events matched to the Vimshottari Dasha calendar


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Hoover age 23 Perth, Australia, in the mining fields





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"Usually cast as a President defined by his failure to contain the Great Depression, Hoover's story is far more complex and more interesting.

To begin with, Hoover was an activist reformer, albeit one without the political skills needed to sell himself and his programs to Congress and the public.

A shy man, he insisted on keeping much of his life and good deeds out of the public eye. Only in politics is this a character flaw, yet it prevented those around Hoover from portraying him as a compassionate leader, or warding off portrayals of him as a cold, uncaring figure responsible for nearly everything that was going wrong in the American economy.

As a result, Hoover's presidency remains largely an untold story.

It began when Calvin Coolidge chose not to run for a second term in 1928. Hoover, then secretary of commerce (and joked Washington wags, "assistant secretary of everything else") made no secret of his interest in succeeding Coolidge.

Few men seemed so prepared for the nation's highest office.

After all, he had fed Belgium, run the U.S. Food Administration for Woodrow Wilson, revolutionized the Department of Commerce, and ministered to victims of the Mississippi River flood.

More realistic than Woodrow Wilson, more respectable than Warren Harding, more imaginative than Calvin Coolidge, Hoover appeared an ideal candidate.

Few Americans asked whether the Great Engineer had a political temperament."

Shani Mahadasha * age birth until age 17.8

10-Aug-1874 Earth-birth in West Branch, Iowa, USA * Shani-Shani swabhukti

1880 grieved decease of father * Shani-Ketu bhukti

winter 1884 = grieved the decease of mother * Shani-Surya bhukti * Surya rules 2nd-from-Chandra


Budha Mahadasha * age 17.8 until age 34.8

1895 earned bachelor's diploma in geology, from the newly established Stanford University College * Budha-Zukra bhukti * Zukra rules 4-diploma

1897 travels to Australia for mining work, involving harsh conditions and high remuneration * Budha-Zukra bhukti * Zukra rules 11-income, revenues

10-Feb-1899 marriage to POTUS-31-pair Girl Scouts 1874-1944 author Lou Henry Hoover * Budha-Surya bhukti * Surya rules swamsha * gochara R-K Dhanuzya-Mithunaya * contact navamsha R-K

1901 elected partner in Berwicke Moering Co. * Budha-Mangala bhukti * Mangala rules Rahu-10-executive

04-Aug-1903 celebrated the birth of child-1 Herbert Jr. * Budha-Rahu bhukti

1908 independent global mining consultant, specialist in financial and technical rescue of failing mines * Budha-Shani bhukti * Shani-7 consultancy


Ketu Mahadasha * age 34.8 until age 43.8

1909 published the most popular of his 30 books, De Re Metallica * translated as Principles of Mining, It became the leading university metals-mining textbook for several generations afterward. Most if not all of the work probably done by his translator wife Lou Henry Hoover * Ketu-Ketu bhukti * Ketu gives effect of Zukra-3 many books written by the wife-figure


Zukra Mahadasha * age 43.8 until age 63.8

Mar-1921 until Aug-1928 * US Secretary of Commerce * Zukra-Chandra until Zukra-Guru * Chandra lagnesha

Tues-06-Nov-1928 wins election to POTUS-31 * Zukra-Guru bhukti * Guru rules 9-fortune in elections

29-Oct-1929 Black Tuesday stock market crash begins The Great Depression* Zukra-Shani bhukti * Shani rules 8-catastrophe

Tues-08-Nov-1932 dramatically loses bid for re-election in a landslide vote favoring Hoover's ideological opponent POTUS-32 Fireside Chats 1882-1945 Franklin D. Roosevelt * Zukra-Budha bhukti ++ gochara Shani return to 7 ++ gochara Rahu return to 10

1934 publication The Challenge to Liberty * co-written with Lou Henry Hoover * Zukra-Budha bhukti * Budha publications


Surya Mahadasha * age 63.8 until age 69.8

1942 published America s First Crusade * Surya-Zukra bhukti bhukti * Zukra-3 written by Lou Henry Hoover


Chandra Mahadasha * age 69.8 until age 79.8

07-Jan-1944 grieved the decease of his wife, Lou Henry Hoover (Herbert's age 70) * Chandra-Rahu bhukti


Mangala Mahadasha * age 79.8 until age 86.8


Rahu Mahadasha * age 86.8 until decease age 90

20-Oct-1964 Earthbody-Exit (age 90) * Rahu-Shani bhukti * maraka Shani rules-7

Distinctive features of the Nativity:

Intensive cluster of graha in tanusthana-11 focuses the personality into activities of bhava 1 + 2 + 3 + 5 + 10 + 12. He was a busy man, always moving (Kuja) always decision-making (Surya) always considering the needs of the common folk (Chandra) and always talking (Budha).

What happened to The Great Engineer?

Hoover is generally ranked among the worst-performing presidents by historians and economists. Any of the general public old enough to remember or have heard stories of the Great Depression tend to disparage his name. The primary complaint is that he did not act when there was still time to act.

Nichha-Zukra mahadasha + Shani bhukti apparently paralyzed him. Shani does not act. Shani resists action.

The second complaint is that despite his widely documented 3xecutive abilities, a resentful blaming Hoover declined to accept any governance roles under POTUS-32 or POTUS-33. Thus a highly able leader stubbornly refused to help a nation in need during nearly 20 years of self-exile. at the peak of his capabilities.

The third complaint is that Hoover became a rogue broadcaster promoting the Nazi regime of Germany-Nazi 1889-1945 Reichskanzler Adolf Hitler as an effective tool against communism while relentlessly attacking POTUS-32 Fireside Chats 1882-1945 Franklin D. Roosevelt.

Hoover might have suffered from Borderline personality disorder associated with the tragic early deaths of his parents.


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Herbert Hoover and his family, 1930's California

Surya * pitrikaraka * jyotikaraka

Atmakaraka

  • Surya-Karkata * Bhanu * ray of light
  • Surya in bhava-1 * center of identity, bright embodiment, intelligence for competition, focus on appearance, athletic entitlements * father-figure plays self-directed, champion roles * eye on personality *sparkling center of the vitality-drama
  • Surya-yuti-Chandra * confidently sensitive, bright comforter, entitled to parent, radiantly rhythmic, creatively intelligent mother, emotional father-figure, politically and culturally aligned parents, radiantly rhythmic
  • Surya-yuti-Kuja * confidently progressive, bright warrior, creatively intelligent brother-figures, self-reflexive political pursuits, champion of brilliant ideals, competitive father, entitled to conquer and win, radiantly pioneering
  • Surya-yuti-Budha * confidently conversational * bright messenger * entitled to discuss * creatively intelligent sibling-cohort * discursive father-figure * speaks and gestures in alignment with the spiritual rays of the Sun * radiantly descriptive * articulate in drama and games * self-confident announcements * talks about ideals, power-politics, poetic love, and romance

FATHER

Dad was a farmer Surya-Karkata and a blacksmith Surya-yuti-Budha handworker, craftsman, Surya-yuti-Kuja metal smith

Surya-1 mutual aspect with Shani-7

Surya radiates in Karkata-1caretaking yet constrained by an almost equally strong Shani-Makara-7 = legal limits, governance, bureaucracy. This same Shani opposes his Chandra in Pushyami , indicating a deeply loyal and governing mate.

Surya occupies Karkata-1 ++ Budha-yuti-Surya ++ Surya-yuti-Mangala ++ Surya-yuti-Chandra. Intense focus (Surya) upon finance and banking (2)

Sparkling Surya accepts the elegantly structuring, disciplining, conventionalizing 7th drishti from Surya's arch-enemy soberly serious Shani-7


Chandra * matrikaraka * garha-karaka

lagnesha

  • Chandra-Karkata * comforted by rhythmic tidal maternal soothing
  • Chandra in Pushyami * comforted by lawful customs * protectors of the ethno-social structure, sensitive legislators, sober caretakers, legally minded environmentalists
  • Chandra in classroom-1 * comfort in glowing incandescent embodiment, familiar with forward action, needs to feel the repeating pulse of physical movement, settled into the rhythm of invention, feeling for first-arrival, soothed by aristocracy, emotionally attuned to new birth, routine activities, undulating personality
  • Somana-yuti-Surya * Emotionally entitled, sensitive to charismatic figures, sentimentally attached to the father, needs sparkling centrality, comforted by confidence, undulating intelligence, soothed by attention and applause, feels like a king
  • Somana-yuti-Kuja * Emotionally competitive, sensitive to brotherly figures, needs direct forward movement, invigorates the undulating routine, soothed by pioneering innovation, feels like a champion
  • Somana-yuti-Budha * Emotionally communicative, sensitive to sibling figures, sheltered by workmates and cohort, needs to evangelize, soothed by conversation, feels like a messenger

MOTHER

MARRIAGE relationships support expectations

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Chandra-1 mutual aspect to Shani-7

Hoover would have been a challenging marriage partner due to the complex of graha near Chandra, represented inter alia the early emotional wounding of his parent's premature deaths. His disciplined, steady, sober, and mature wife is represented by Shani-Makara-7

Chandra-Karkata = patriotic and parental. Yet the personal attachment to security and comfort may be constrained by regulating, contract-bound Makara Shani's overarching concern for the social law and social order.

Shani-Makara in 7th-from-Chandra represents Hoover's primary advisers, including his remarkable wife Lou Henry, who were generally conservative in their counsel.

Also bhava-5 represents the redoubtable Lou Henry Hoover = 3rd-from-3rd publications. Hoover himself has no graha in bhava-3 yet he is purportedly the author of more than 30 books including detailed translations from other languages. With his Ketu-2 is rather unlikely that he would have dedicated the time needed to produce painstaking translations. It is more likely that the majority author of most of his literary works is actually Mrs. Hoover.


Kuja * bhratru-karaka * virya-karaka

Yogakaraka nichha-Mangala-Karkata-1 rules 5-intelligrnce, creativity, celebrity ++ 10 social visibility, respect, reputation, leadership

  • Mangala-Karkata * nichha * active pursuit of security * proactive nourishment * drive toward rooting + settling * vigorous defensive movement * police protector * fence-builder * push toward land ownership * promotes construction of settlements * innovative farming + fishing * energetically ethnic * champion of local cultures
  • Mangala in bhava-1 * drive toward embodied performance vitality, pursuit of competition, direct physical action, thrusting vigor, dominating personality, can dig , drill, dive, excavate, plumb, explode, explore (both physically and psychologically) dynamic innovator, lively push toward fast driving and speedy transport, energized muscular conquests, athletic body
  • Kuja-yuti-Surya * invigorated creativity,, energized confidence, dynamic genius, masculine force joins willful charm, potential for aggressive political or dramatic actions , potential for aggressive political or dramatic actions , potential for aggressive political or dramatic actions
  • Kuja-yuti-Chandra * invigorated feelings * energized intuition * dynamic nurturance * masculine force joins parental care * potential for aggressive emotionalized actions , potential for aggressive emotionalized actions
  • Kuja-yuti-Budha * communicative competitions, energized communication, dynamic reporting, outgoing force joins messaging signal, potential for aggressive gestures, speech, and writing

ashtagata-dosha Mangala suffers weakness caused by brilliant intelligent solipsistic Surya * solar burn within the range of 0-17 degrees from Surya makes Mangala somewhat crispy

Pushya-Mangala-mutual aspect to change-resistant Shravana-Shani. Mangala is prevented from moving forward as quickly as desired. Lawful restraint.

Mangala ruler of 8 and 8th-from-8 is a notoriously challenging agent for the Kanya nativity. Hoover's Kuja is not only nichha, but also Kuja is paired with hostile Budha.

Kuja is also suffering the ashtagata-dosha so that Kuja's outgoing energy rays are crippled by the self-righteous forces of politics and drama (burned by Surya).

Before 1929, Hoover enjoyed 20 smooth years of Zukra Mahadasha. Involved in high-profile programs like food distribution in war-torn Europe, Hoover was very busy, very visible, and due to his investments in international mining operations, also very wealthy. He was known as The Great Engineer. His reputation, crafted by political spinners but also based in a solid record of measurable achievements, was framed as a career of bold innovation and exploration (Mangala) mixed with business skill (Budha) patriotism (Chandra) and alpha-male leadership (Surya).

Rahu-8 in 10th-from the Karkata-11 complex provides the ambition albeit Rahu is controlled by Mangala and Mangala is nichha.

Mahadasha of Azlesa-Surya expresses nichha Kuja rules 3-8 and Rahu-8. The upheaval was violent and bitter.

At his age 56, during Surya-Mangala-nichha bhukti, gochara Rahu transited into Meza-8, signaling the Rahu-Return craving for emergencies and upheaval. The Great Depression had started with apparently no warning and the nation was suddenly gripped by uncontrollable terror of starvation and social collapse.

Surya rules 12-invisibility. Kuja rules 8 and 8th-from-8. Shani rules 6. The Surya-Surya, Surya-Mangala, and Surya-Rahu bhuktis were the worst. While many called for aggressive economic interventions, Hoover took sanctuary (12). Surya Mahadasha 1930-1936 was was lethargic (12, sleep). As gochara Shani moved into Makara-5 in Apr-1931 (Shani-5 stiff resistance to political charm) the nation went from boom to bust .

Delayed Action while Rahu-8 churns

The markets swung up and down, recovering somewhat in early 1930 only to crash again, with worldwide financial depression evident by the lowest part of the collapse in June 1932 during Surya-Rahu.

Folks were overcome with despair. During Surya-Kuja and Surya-Rahu, Hooverville slums full of destitute unemployed arose near every town and city.

In the eyes of many, Hoover bore personal responsibility for the spiraling economic (11) crisis of the Great Depression and the colossal scale of misery that it brought. He was blamed and accused - nichha-Mangala, nichha-Zukra.

Even after he lost re-election, Hoover retaliated twith a seven-year volley of vitriolic attack upon the policies and character of POTUS-32 Fireside Chats 1882-1945 Franklin D. Roosevelt and his New Deal safety-net program. Rather than admit the scope of the problem and suggest solutions, Hoover criticized, complained, and defended his failed actions while aggressively defaming the New Deal domestic antipoverty aid programs as socialist and communist in motive. Formerly a shining star, The Great Engineer was ostracized from government for seven years.

Chandra-Surya-Budha also afflicted by the contrariwise nichha-Kuja ruling Mix-Master Rahu-8 and broadcast 8th-from-8th

Surya mahadasha transitioned into Chandra Mahadasha in 1936 when Hoover was still a young 62. A man of striking organizational ability who could have been an elite leader during the economic recovery deployment and subsequent buildup to WW-2, Hoover was instead a man-without-portfolio in the USA government during 1932-1939. He was granted no authority. When invited to advise working committees, he refused.

Instead, under influence of the nichha-combust-randhresha Kuja, and Surya ruling 12 foreign lands, Hoover traveled to Germany independently, socialized with Germany-Nazi 1889-1945 ny-Nazi 1889-1945 Reichskanzler Adolf Hitler and his colleagues, and broadcast forceful radio speeches claiming that the Nazi regime and the Stalinist regime should fight it out between themselves. USA intervention in Europe's problem (including the holocaust atrocities) was in Hoover's view unjustified. Any USA alliance with Russ-Soviet 1878-1953 Man-of-Steel Josef Stalin would open the floodgates, spilling the demonic horrors of anti-democratic communism throughout the world.

Considered a pariah by all but a few ideological devotees, Hoover had minimal subscribers during his Chandra Mahadasha (age 62-72). However his anti-Stalinism crusade was better supported during his Mangala Mahadasha age 73-80. By the onset of Rahu Mahadasha in 1953, anti-communist rhetoric had become a standard of American politics, his public image as a defender of the American Way of Life was somewhat rehabilitated

Famous for his lifelong commitment to children.

Putrapathi = Yogakaraka Kuja-1 + parental Chandra-Karkata


Budha * bandhava-karaka * zisya-karaka

  • Budha-Karkata * comfortable communications * hand, arm, shoulders make protective gestures * articulation of rhythmic root culture * discussions about security * describes routine behaviors * instructions for foundational stability * describes the folkways * reports on walls, moats, fencing, and policing * defensive posture in discourse * converses with parental personalities * environmental wardens * issues customary pronouncements * delivers messages about sustainable settlements * habitual topics of patriotism, land use, shielding, cultivation, and nourishment
  • Budha in bhava-1 * digbala * narrative of body, bifurcated self-image, discusses physical appearance, describer of embodiment, explainer of tangible self, delivers instructions for self-characterization, articulation of communicative movement, animated gestures, talks about personality, details the two-sided identity
  • Budha-yuti-Surya * explainer of dramatic intelligence * affinity for central roles expressing skills of communication, explanation, description, instruction instruction * articulation of radiant authority * message of willpower and charisma * confidently talkative father
  • Budha-yuti-Chandra * explainer of feelings * affinity for caretaking, parental roles expressing skills of communication, explanation, description, instruction * articulation of comfortable routines, message of sensitivity and emotional flow, intuitively talkative mother
  • Budha-yuti-Mangala * explainer of competitive energies * affinity for engineering, invasive, exploratory roles expressing skills of communication, explanation, description, instruction *articulator of competitive energies, signals forward action, message of innovation and forward movement, outspoken, fraternal conversations, aggressive communications, talkative brother-figures * nichha

Budha-mutual aspect to Shani

Kanya-lagna = the emotionally talkative, communicative cohort evangelical instructional team-working administrative managerial announcing publishing reporting explanatory conversational lyrical messaging 3rd-from-Chandra and 3rd-from Budha. Hoover was a master manager, skilled in book-writing, business planning, team-work, meetings, and frequent travels. Indicates journalism, historical and technical writings. Hoover published more than 30 books.

Hoover was a genius of management and supply-chain logistics. He could and did efficiently move billions of tons of food, tens of thousands of low-wage workers, and countless shipments of mining materials around the world.

Service Orientation of Kanya lagna expressed via Budha-11-systems

Hoover's relief efforts during the era of World War I attracted national attention. The helpless, bereaved, abandoned people (Kanya) could count on his aid, though others had not always aided him.


Guru * dhavakaraka

  • Guru-Kanya * much ministry of service * many servants + employees * much labor * many argumentations * logical guidance * much medication * exploitable beliefs * doctrine of humility
  • Guru in bhava-1 * dig-bala * much vitality * jolly personality * generous disposition * numerous identities * much jovial competition * many cheerful sporting activities * may signal expansive aura * tall height * or wide girth * embodiment of optimistic belief
  • Guru-yuti-Zukra sodarya-karaka * multiple sisterly-figures * abundant pleasures + treasures * much humanistic diplomatic philosophy * large-scale alignments * broad scope of partnerships * many financial arrangements * nichha

The Great Engineer was a large-systems thinker, planner, operationalizer

passionate believer in laissez-faire economic theory

Brihaspati-yuti-Zukra in the emotionally talkative, communicative cohort evangelical instructional team-working administrative managerial announcing publishing reporting explanatory conversational lyrical messaging 3rd-from-Chandra * Hoover co-authored more than 30 books with his wife Lou Henry Hoover. Modern historians suspect that Lou did most of the writing, but Herbert Hoover was almost as well-known for his publications as he was for holding leadership roles.

Guru rogesha-6 from Karkata Chandra signals emotional conflict


Zukra * kalatra-karaka * svadhu-karaka

  • Zukra-Kanya * nichha * appreciation of service -or- victimization, likes logical argument, * attracted to laboring classes, servants, and animals * prefers exploitive, unbalanced arrangements * pleasures of medication and toxic pain relief * enjoys humility * aligned to unfair, distrusting contracts * alliance in ministries of service * aesthetic of rremedies for injustice
  • Zukra-3 * pleasure of explanatory description, gracious messaging, enjoys commercial harmony, aesthetic instructions, feminine-figures (sisters, aunts, neighbors) dominate the cohort, appreciation of communications, aesthetic instructions, feminine-figures (sisters, aunts, neighbors) dominate the cohort, appreciation of communications
  • Zukra-yuti-Guru * sweetened expansions, gracious diversity, appreciation for philosophical doctrine, adjustable catechism, numerous negotiations, humanistic agreements, generous beauty, balanced patronage * arrangements according to priestly paradigm of belief

Co-authored with his capable wife Lou Hoover , he wrote a standard academic-professional text on mining = Zukra-yuti-Guru = Kanya-lagna = 3rd-from-Budha

Zukra-1 rules the emotionally associative, community-linking, economically gainful, profit-regulated, friendly, participatory, goal-oriented, socially-networked 11th-from-Chandra

Herbert Hoover enjoyed the help of his elder brother Theodore throughout life especially in developing the zinc recovery process. close emotional relationship and fleshly resemblance (Zukra-1) between Herbert Hoover and his elder brother.

Zukra rules 10-Reputation, Recognition

During Zukra mahadasha age 36-56, due partly to the extreme reticence of a grieving and dysfunctional POTUS-30 Price of Freedom 1872-1933 Calvin Coolidge, Mr. Hoover becomes the most visible man in Government

He was an iconic, socially admired figure representing the very best of his citizen class: scientifically educated, financially successful, and dedicated to better government through application of tested, innovative processes.

Super-Manager * all tasks accepted * meetings * teams

Guru-yuti-Zukra located in the managing, organizing, documenting, process-oriented 3rd-from-Chandra

Mar-1921 until Aug-1928 * Zukra-Guru bhukti until Zukra-Budha bhukti * age 46-52 mid-career

  • USA Secretary of Commerce. Newspaper wags referred to Hoover as Secy of Commerce and Assistant Secy of Everything Else.
Nov-1928 elected POTUS-31 * Zukra-Budha bhukti

Public Powerhouse Budha

Professor Budha lagnesha karmesha rules 10th navamsha containing Rahu-yuti-Shani and Rahu occupies the emotionally dignified , social-ordering, leadership-seeking; 10th-from-Chandraa.

Hoover had built up a tremendous reputation for successful management of large operations, and in the Nov-1928 election he enjoyed a massive landslide win. Perceived as the very icon of farm values, hands-on management, and moral integrity, Hoover started office in March, 1929.

In a time of flaunting luxury, ostentatious displays of wealth, and notorious lifestyle excess of the 'rentier' class, Hoover was elected on a platform of reducing government waste. The political evangelists proclaimed his proven ability to handle large-scale life sustenance.

Having brought food, clothing, and shelter (Chandra) to starving Europeans devastated by World-War-1, and having operated several highly profitable international businesses, Hoover seemed (Chandra, intuitions) able to fix America's ongoing poverty problems.

Zukra has plusses and minuses. In lagna, nichha Zukra benefits the personal wealth and grants a genetically pale complexion. Kendra-adhi-pati Guru brings large-scale (Guru) problems (Kanya) with wealth-treasuries in the forms of banking (2) and ideology (9).

Black Tuesday terrible stock market crash of Oct * Zukra-Ketu chidradasha

Less than eight months after he took office in March-1929, Black Tuesday struck and the Great Depression started. Faced with the huge scope (Guru) of the poverty and debt Guru-Kanya in the context of widespread (Guru) financial disaster Zukra-Kanya, Hoover in the most exhausted of all Ketu-bhukti -- the chidradasha of Zukra mahadasha - DID NOTHING.


Shani * duro-karaka * jara-karaka

Shasaya Yoga

  • Shani-Makara-Draco * heavy old institutions, obliged to conform to the time-clock * rigidly ranked hierarchies, strict governance regimes, pressure to complete socially required duties, vital energy compression stress zone = knees-calves-skeleton, strictly imposed hierarchies, rigidly unyielding public policies* must materialize time-ordered social approval * punitive judgments of elder regulators * must endure lowest-common-denominator proletarian structures * must continue to govern the public despite scarce available resources
  • Shani in Bhava-7 * digbala * (beneficial placement) * Structured, orderly, time-conscious partnerships. One must balance and re-balance. Cautious, conventional relationships. Tense negotiations. Chronic responsibilities toward the spouse; compression of the visible genitalia; heavy legacy pressure against freely chosen contracts. Bargaining fatigue. Resistance to new arrangements. Resentment toward changes in partner's behavior. Support for socially-approved, rigidly dutiful roles as married person, contract-holder, match-maker, attorney, diplomat, judge.

Disciplined complex personality

mutual aspect between Shani-7-Makara and Surya-Chandra-Mangala-Budha-1

Shani-7 resists change in agreements * Marriage loyalty

Stubborn and lacked negotiation skills. Refused to admit that the financial manipulators had acted illegally. Shani also rules-Kumbha 8 making Hoover beholden to undisclosed parties in the economic system.

Shani in 7th-from-Chandra indicates loyalty between the spousal parties.

Shani Mahadasha * age birth until 17.8

Hated large inheritances. Shani-7 rules 8

Hoover was successful as a businessman-engineer but he encountered rigid obstacles as a politician (5)

Writing and Publication

Shani strong ruler of 3rd-from-3rd. Herbert Hoover wrote and published dozens of books in policy policy, governance, economics and mining. A few are still used in college courses today. Mrs. Lou Henry Hoover was a capable writer and translator (her chandra-3). She likely did most of the work on Hoover's earlier books. Shani in 7th-from-Chandra wife.


Rahu * rajyalobha-karaka * picchala-karaka (slippery)

  • Rahu-Meza-Arya * shimmering illusion of first-arrival * craving for superiority * exotic use of dominating force * mask of competitive action * mirage of innovative pioneering * over-reaching urgency * extraordinary muscularity * mesmerizing forward movement * unusual athleticism * fascinating conquests * marvelous warriorship * seeks special importance via apparent (but perhaps not authentic) attributes of heroic action; winning of contests, natural chief * seeks privilege via champion-roles
  • Rahu in bhava-8 * passion for secrets * in swabhava of Competitive Kuja, the Shadowy Specter seeks privilege via glamorous or unusual secrets, recycling, rebirth, reinvention; rejuvenation. The Chandala in 8 desires a special, important, therapeutic role in transformative, hidden knowledge, confidential, revolutionary, catastrophic role. May be the secretary (secret-keeper) of a powerful individual or group. Opportunistic in-laws, inheritance, alimonies. Exciting, ambitious family of the lifepartner (in-laws). Rahu-8 trespasses the cultural boundaries of undisclosed assets, dangerous secrets, emergency situations. Rahu the Poseur may pose as a tantric initiator, disaster manager, keeper of dangerous secrets, identity-changing healer, or holder of secret empowerments.

Rahu-Mesha mining ruled by yogakaraka-nichha-Kuja-1

Rahu in 10th-from-Chandra indicates potential for governance and executive authority during Rahu bhuktis

Rahu occupies 11th navamsha yuti Shani suggesting a deep focus on revenues, earnings

The stock market crash of 1929 and the sudden impoverishment of millions of Americans happened under Hoover's watch. Curiously, his own financial standing was not afflicted by the Great Depression.

Hoover's later dislike of large inheritances also suggests the experience of being left on his own.

Rahu-8 exotic

Hoover made his fortune outside the US where he was a unique and fascinating figure. Likely he was more familiar with the "ex-pat" artificially dramatized "trickster" version of the American ex-pat engineer and explorer (Kuja). His own people (genetics- 2) rather bewildered him.

Rahu-8 non-disclosure

Hoover demonstrated dramatic and much-praised success for his "can-do" (Rahu-Mesha doing, doer) innovative and dynamic approach to feeding the war victims. His method was not transparent (Rahu-8 secrets) and he would not discuss what would be done but he was willing to explain what had been done (Shani).

Rahu-Shani in 10th navamsha finds opportunity in leadership roles

Hoover's specialty in leadership was management and communications (Mithunaya 10th navamsha). He was an instructor, describer, explainer. He easily gained institutional authority and public responsibility.


Ketu * kavandha-karaka * chidra-karaka

  • Ketu-Thula * dissociates from bargaining, incomplete alliance, empty trades, surrendered trust, dispersed negotiations, ignores restriction on deal-making, applies balanced equity to the misty abyss
  • Ketu in classroom-4 * ambivalent toward the homestead, absentee mother-figure, disregards local customs, dissolved property boundaries, wanders from home, irrelevance of the established folkways. One abandons the nationality, dismisses the parents, walks away from the ancestral routines.

Nichha-Kuja drishti into Ketu-2

Ketu in bhava-2 tends to dissolve the family lineage r and disperse the historic, genetic values in favor of the radical new beginnings of Rahu-Mesha-8.

Hoover's parents died during his childhood and he wandered through the homes of relatives but never stayed in one family for long As an adult he was a peripatetic figure.

Historians generally judge Hoover to have failed miserably in his responsibility to protect the US economyDespite the previous show of charity and compassion for European war victims, Hoover essentially ignored the suffering of the American masses, asserted that Americans needed to call upon their own resources without relying on the government, and blamed the victim Zukra-Kanya insinuating that Americans were weak and complaining.

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POTUS-31-pair = 1928 until 1932 * National Director of Girl Scouts * Lou Henry Hoover * 1874-1944

birth data from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lou_Henry_Hoover * tentatively rectified by BP Lama

charts, graphs and tables produced by Shri Jyoti Star * adapted by BP Lama

Lou Henry Hoover


Rising Nakshatra

Feminine Nativities

Punarvasu * Aditya * Purnavasi * Vutvrta * Jamitra


BPL commentary

For Saptarishi births of a feminine valence, the condition of prosperous, preaching, inclusive, broad-scope, philosophical, humanistic Guru may considerably affect the outcome. Due to the definitive influence of dhava-karaka Guru, ladies born in Puna, Visaka, or Purvabhadra may find that their worldview is greatly shaped by the character of the husband.

For those born into the Brihaspati-ruled paradigm of Jamitra, teachers, preachers, professors, patrons, agents of generosity and guidance, guru-figures, ideologues, indoctrinators, theorists, know-it-alls, proselytes, philosophers, pontificators, patriarchs, pundits, pater-nosters, proponents of principled understanding, wise-ones, wizards, druids, and paradigms of belief may be especially influential..

Guidance is provided by emissaries from the realm of the Twin Gardeners called Castor-and-Pollux. Their purpose is restoration, renewal, and rehabilitation of lost knowledge..

High forehead. Punarvasu have a global perspective. The majority of Aditya-born nativities are higher dimensional Seva-wanderers who assume guidance roles.


Instructing, Explaining, Describing

Mithunaya-Dvamdva pada 1-2-3 represent Guru's rulership of 7-agreements ++ 10-leadership, while also expressing the tension between broad-view Brihaspati versus detail-oriented Bantering Budha. Pada 1-2-3 are blessed with an expansive human wisdom for evocative writing or speaking. Often excellent writers who can facilitate spiritual growth via specific explanation and description. Pada 1-2-3 are often found in the literary arts, in teaching roles, in academic advising, as travel guides, and as poets who describe the natural world.

Karkata-pada-4 represents Guru's rulership of 6-imbalance ++ 9-philosophy. Pada-4 also embodies the tension between global, paternalistic Guru versus local, motherly Chandra. Often these remarkable women are found in the gardening and domestic realms. Natural herbal physicians, they understand and can elicit the wisdom of the mineral, plant, and animal kingdoms. Pada-4 may also emerge into the religious professions where they may grow a garden of psycho-intuitive understanding.

Although the priestly husband seeks wisdom, for Karkata-Punarvasu the husband may also be adversarial, polluted, impoverished, or ailing (due to Guru rules 6).

Themes of restoration of lost knowledge, gardening, fertility of understanding, wish fulfillment, and conceptual teaching may contextualize Aditya's terrestrial experience. Applies also to Chandra in Punarvasu

QUOTATION from Shil-Ponde (1939) Hindu Astrology Joytisha-Shastra . p 93 . p 93


"... will be successful in everything she undertakes.

If she elects to have a career of her own,

  • she will become very well known and highly respected.

If she marries,

  • she will have a husband and children who adore her

  • and her domestic life will be most happy .

Her house will be orderly and well kept,

  • as she is very particular and discriminating,

  • and insists on beautiful and harmonious surroundings for herself and family.

Her health is good

  • except that she will suffer from gastric complaints

  • and must be careful in her diet."

Biographical events matched to the Vimshottari Dasha calendar


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Lou Henry Hoover * Whitehouse Photo 10-Sept-1929

  • her age 55
  • 1 month before Black Tuesday
  • on this day, USA Civil Rights 1929-1968 Rev. Martin Luther King was a 5-month-old baby

Ketu Mahadasha * age birth until 9-months

29-Mar-1874 Earth-birth in Waterloo, Iowa, USA * Ketu-Budha bhukti * Budha lagnesha


Zukra Mahadasha * age 0.9 until 20.9


Surya Mahadasha * age 20.9 until 26.9

1899 bachelors degree in Geology from Stanford University College * Surya-Budha bhukti * Budha diploma

10-Feb-1899 marriage to POTUS-31 Challenge to Liberty 1874-1964 Herbert Hoover * Surya-Budha bhukti * Budha rules swamsha * * samchara R-K Dhanuzya-Mithunaya * contact swamsha


Chandra Mahadasha * age 26.9 until 36.9

04-Aug-1903 celebrated the birth of child-1 Herbert Jr. * Chandra-Rahu bhukti


Mangala Mahadasha * age 36.9 until 43.9


Rahu Mahadasha * age 43.9 until 61.9

24-June-1927 * grieved the decease of mother * Rahu-Budha bhukti * Budha rules 2nd-from-Chandra

21-July-1928 * grieved decease of father * Rahu-Budha bhukti * Budha rules 7th-from-Surya

06-Nov-1928 * husband elected POTUS-31 * Rahu-Zukra bhukti * Zukra rules-5 elections

29-Oct-1929 * devastating financial collapse of USA Stock Market * Rahu-Zukra bhukti * nichha-Zukra rules 5-gambling + 12-disintegration

08-Nov-1932 * husband loses re-election to POTUS-31 * Rahu-Surya bhukti * Surya rules 8th-from-8th change of identity based on new instructions


Guru Mahadasha * age 61.9 until decease age 69

07-Jan-1944 (age 69) decease via heart-attack * Guru-Ketu bhukti

Salient Features of the Nativity

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10-Feb-1899 Lou Henry and Herbert Hoover marriage at the home of Lou's parents, in Monterey California. She was 25 and he was 24.


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Lou Henry Hoover, photographed by Edward Steichen for the 11-May-1929 cover of VOGUE magazine. Her age 55, Shani Return, Rahu-Zukra bhukti.

Her husband's POTUS-31 assignment had just started in March-1929, and Lou's radiant Zukra-Meena-10 yuti Surya-10 had brought her to the peak of public exposure..

Surya * pitrikaraka * jyotikaraka

  • Surya-Meena * Bhaskara * the illuminator
  • Surya in bhava-10 * digbala * center of hierarchy * brightly governing * legislative intelligence * focus on social order * father holds a respected position * regulatory entitlements * eye on high authority * radiant reputation * sparkling center of the leadership drama
  • Surya-yuti-Zukra * confidently harmonious, brightly creative bargainer, artistic father-figure, uniquely intelligent sister-figures, entitled to pleasures, aesthetic expressions align with the spiritual rays of the Sun, financial politics, radiantly diplomatic, self-reflexively attractive features

Chandra * matrikaraka * garha-karaka

  • Chandra-Simha * comforted by creatively radiant, rhythmic confident dramatic display
  • Chandra in Magha * comforted by dramatic, wandering observance * protectors of three-fires ceremony, glorious visions, unlimited magic

  • Chandra in classroom-3 * comfort in cohort * familiar with communication * calming repetitive announcements * needs to feel the tidal pulse of daily chat * sheltered in the parlor * soothed by younger siblings * intuitive information delivery * settled into the habits of writing and commerce * accustomed to routine messaging; emotionally attuned to the rhythms of conversation * undulating signals * ethno-cultural gestures * intuitive handcraft

Kuja * bhratru-karaka * virya-karaka

  • Mangala-Meza * moolatrikona 0-18 deg. * vigorous pursuit of championship * dynamic, competitive winner * proactive innovation, first-arrival; push toward conquest
  • Mangala in bhava-11 * drive toward connectivity, pursuit of earnings, , marketplace dynamics, invasive networking, vigorously active friends, energized scientific systems, economic conquests
  • Kuja-yuti-Rahu * thrill of muscular action * excited competition * energized pretense * dynamic desires * masculine force joins opportunistic ambition * potential for aggressive pursuit of privileges

Budha * bandhava-karaka * zisya-karaka

  • Budha-Kumbha * connecting communications * systematic pronouncements * articulation of social-scientific networks * descriptive inter-webbed definitions * diagrams the marketplace linkages *futuristic conversations * messages about communities * discusses economic transactions * explains large-scale social participation linkage * hands-arms-shoulders send distributive-associative gestures
  • Budha in bhava-9 * narrative of the father-figure, the guru-figure, the catechism, the doctrine * discusses patronage, paradigm of belief, describer of theoretical details, explainer of dogmatic concepts, 11th-from-11th profits, talks about principled interpretation of reality, dharma, worldview

Budha resides in the partnering 7th-from-Chandra


Guru * dhavakaraka * bahuta-karaka

  • Guru-Kanya * much ministry of service, many servants + employees, much labor, many argumentations, much medication, exploitable beliefs, doctrine of humility
  • Guru in bhava-4 * many roots, many diploma and licenses, much owned property, many homes and homelands, multiple mother-figures

Zukra * svadhu-karaka * kalatra-karaka

Malavaya Yoga

  • Zukra-Meena * uttama * appreciation of music-arts, pleasures of imagination, enjoys symbolic clairsentience, dreamlike arrangements
  • Zukra-10 * pleasure of regulation, enjoys lawful, socially iconic, feminine-figures harmonious ability to govern and direct * pleasing designs to adorn the upper legs, knees, calves, for overall skeleton * financially visible equity, appreciation of order, legislates justice
  • Zukra-yuti-Surya * balanced roles in drama, appreciation for political display, theatrical negotiations, self-focused arrangements, radiant bright beauty * self-reflexive bargaining, sweetly confident entitlements, enjoys politics, negotiating father-figure, intelligently focused on trades, arrangements, contracts * arrangements according to father's choice or self-will

Shani * duro-karaka * jara-karaka

  • Shani-Makara-Draco * heavy old institutions, obliged to conform to the time-clock * rigidly ranked hierarchies, strict governance regimes, pressure to complete socially required duties, vital energy compression stress zone = knees-calves-skeleton, strictly imposed hierarchies, rigidly unyielding public policies* must materialize time-ordered social approval * punitive judgments of elder regulators * must endure lowest-common-denominator proletarian structures * must continue to govern the public despite scarce available resources
  • Shani in Bhava-8 *Structured, orderly, time-conscious transformations. One must slowly, inexorably change the old order. One must regenerate while always maintaining the system; cautious, conventional discoveries; tense renewals, fear of emergencies, chronic trauma patterns; hidden features of sexual-reproduction; heavy legacy pressure against free discovery of mysteries. Resistance to new identity. Disaster fatigue; martial law. Resentment toward changes in partner's behavior. Extra responsibility for the impecunious family of the lifepartner. In-laws contribute little. Support for socially-approved, rigidly dutiful roles as surgeon, tantriki, concealer, mask-maker, emergency regulator.

Rahu * rajyalobha-karaka * picchala-karaka (slippery)

  • Rahu-Meza-Arya l * shimmering illusion of first-arrival * * craving for superiority * exotic use of dominating force * mask of competitive action * mirage of innovative pioneering * over-reaching urgency * extraordinary muscularity * mesmerizing forward movement * unusual athleticism * fascinating conquests * marvelous warriorship * seeks special importance via apparent (but perhaps not authentic) attributes of heroic action; winning of contests, natural chief * seeks privilege via champion-roles
  • Rahu in bhava-11 * * passion for prizes, achievements * in Roguish Rahu's swabhava co-ruled with Sober Shani ,* the Shadowy Specter seeks privilege via glamorous or unusual social goals and economic attainments. Desires an important, linkage role in social participation and financial networks. Exciting, opportunistic, ambitious friends. Craves profit and gain. Rahu-11 thrives in culturally-mixed commodity-exchange systems. Rahu the Poseur may pose as a friend, a voluntary linker, an economic achiever, a relative of the father's people. Rahu-11 trespasses the cultural boundaries of friendship and community. Boundary-breeching, risk-rewarding Rahu typically enjoys material success in marketplace profits, revenue, earnings due to His social-participation genius.
  • Rahu-yuti-Mangala * amplified competition, magnified championship, exotic pursuits, tricky innovation, opportunistic brother-warriors, fascinating (but perhaps illusory) appearance of inventive, dynamic energy, hypnotic attack, engineered force of cross-cultural mixing

Ketu * kavandha-karaka * chidra-karaka

  • Ketu-Thula * dissociates from bargaining, incomplete alliance, empty trades, surrendered trust, dispersed negotiations, ignores restriction on deal-making, applies balanced equity to the misty abyss
  • Ketu in classroom-5 * ambivalent toward entitlements, may have eccentric children, disregards limitations on financial speculation, displays fragmented or esoteric intelligence, dissolves the glamour of center-stage roles, disperses the romantic adoration. One abandons the usual political behaviors, ignores the conventional creativity, plays an incoherent game.
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Brihaspati-yuti-Zukra nichha is also problematic for relationships with women. Yet Guru-Zukra are holding excellent positions in navamsha-4 Meena suggesting that life-partner-1 is a person of artistic and spiritual character who may be deeply forgiving of the male native's additional interests.

Herbert Hoover was a devout Quaker in private practice and a vigorous exponent of Quaker principles in public life. Hoover worked most days of his life from morning until night. His primary expression of Quaker belief was the sober lifestyle which undergirded his extraordinary work ethic.

  • during the USA Great Depression, Shani-9 caused his downfall in the USA presidency. Rigid refusal to change his doctrinaire free-market ideology (Shani-Vrizabha = cintamani * mani * money -policies) forced him into the role of the dogmatic preacher. Whilst economic collapse deepened and desperate poverty spread throughout the nation on an unprecedented scale, Hoover continued to preach the message of saving and self-reliance. Loud calls for government safety-net assistance to the growing underclass were ignored; hobo camps called Hoovervilles showed the contempt Americans felt for their uncaring president.

  • Hoover was wiped out by the landslide victory of POTUS-32 Fireside Chats 1882-1945 Franklin D. Roosevelt . True to FDR's Shani-8, FDR immediately passed emergency laws Shani-8 using pooled funds (8, tax monies) to structure government work programs (Shani) for millions.

Hoover was a prolific author of engineering books, and considered a high academic authority in that emerging scientific field.

  • Speaking was hard for Hoover, and being before a crowd was an ordeal.
  • He seemed stiff and monotonous before big crowds, and he was shy with strangers.

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  • Exceptionally wealthy via speculative investments in minerals and mining, specialist in famine avoidance and food distribution challenges.

  • Traveled constantly and extensively.

  • Mines and metallurgy; food and farming; government efficiency and volunteer organizations; Quaker morality (nichha-Zukra, quietude).

Hoover was a brilliant man, a renowned author, and a highly accomplished business entrepreneur. Nevertheless he completely lost the public confidence . His economic policies -- based on elaborate principled arguments for the corrective effects of free markets -- did not adapt to the new fact that the economy did not self-correct during the Great Depression.

  • Would not join Stanford fraternities nor allow his sons to join any.
  • A great deal of ocean travel.
  • Extremely good at mining ventures , finding great supplies of mineral resource -- everything from gold and precious stones to coal and oil.
  • Ruler of the 10th navamsha = very strong Budha in bhava-11 systems
  • Vriddhipathi ruler 11th from lagna = social-material relationship = Guru. Guru-yuti-Zukra = very close, expansive, abundant (but both men would have had polarizing catalysis with women due to the nichha-Zukra.)

Became a very financially privileged man, starting with the barter = move out of the Chinese coal company rights for move into a partnership in the London co.

By 1914, Hoover, operating on his own since 1907, had important investments on every continent and offices in San Francisco, London, Saint Petersburg, and Mandalay. Once he remarked that if a man "has not made a million dollars by the time he is forty he is not worth much."

Hoover was worth about $4 million at the beginning of World War I. Under both POTUS-29 Teapot Dome 1865-1923 Warren G. Harding and POTUS-30 Price of Freedom 1872-1933 Calvin Coolidge , Herbert Hoover became the most visible man in government.

public negative perception during his presidency: unsmiling square face and starched collars; general apathy and lack of connection toward the very poor, exploited classes, suffering

  • Ambivalence, apathy (Ketu-2) toward medicine, war, conflict, poverty crime (Hoovervilles) scattered attention to the very poor and exploited
  • Ambition (Rahu-12) to be recognized as an important figure in distant lands or a master of clandestine operations (cooperative of USA intelligence agencies)