Barbara Pijan Lama Jyotisha Vedic Astrology

Politics 13

 

Bill Clinton 

William Jefferson Clinton

(born William Jefferson Blythe III)


  • 42nd USA President: 1993 - 2001

  • Governor of Arkansas: 1978-1980; 1982-1992


preceded by: George H. W. Bush - 41 

succeeded by: George W. Bush - 43 


Bill Clinton USA Pres 42 - Barbara Pijan Lama Jyotisha


Possible Problems with the Birth Time

08h51 BT for 19-Aug-1946 in Hope, Arkansas USA = widely used by USA astrologers. When Clinton was first elected USA president, an unconfirmed 03h44 BT was circulated and reading based on that BT were developed. Each BT has some merits although it seem like the 08h51 BT provides a better match to publicly known events.

Considerations in evaluating the proposed Birth Times:

Bill Clinton is a career politician who has never held any job outside of elected politics. In retirement, he serves as the celebrity director of a large international NGO, husband of the working USA secretary of state, advocate for the world's most disadvantaged groups, and brilliant negotiator of hostages. Mr. Clinton is almost always on center stage. It seems more reasonable therefore that the lord of 10th navamsha would be a politically oriented, kingly, attention-and-celebrity graha such as the swakshetra Surya.  

03h44 BT = yields a fairly sober nativity with Shani in patriotic Karkata lagna. That setup is similar to a number of national leaders such as George W. Bush - 43  and Indira Gandhi. If Karkata = lagna, L-7 would enter lagna, indicating longevity in marriage through a deep personality identification with the married status. In addition the 03h44 time would yield a Vimshottari Dasha which places the timing of marriage in Rahu/Rahu, and election to USA presidency in Guru/Guru. 

08h51 BT = 10th navamsha lord Shani = radix L-5/L-6. Perhaps this is adequate justification for a lifetime career in public service via winning (5) the political (5) prize of elected office.

08h51 BT = Kanya lagna applies, and Kuja becomes the highly inauspicious L-3/L-8 in lagna with the neechcha Shukra. Such an unfortunate graha seems unlikely for a world leader... but in truth Mr. Clinton endured a major sex scandal while on public display as a world figure, and Kuja = karaka of male sexual pursuit.

03h44 BT = L-3/L-12 Budha in Karkata lagna with Shani, identical to the lagna of GW Bush-43 (but lacking Bush's rising Shukra which gave the younger Bush a certain boyish charm); perhaps the L-12 as a significator of animosity from extra-marital relationships is adequate indication of his proclivity toward sexual scandal along with his ability to emerge unscathed due to his intensive work ethic.

(Americans decry immoral sexuality but they profoundly admire a solid work ethic!)

Marriage situation

08h41 BT =  a severe Kuja dosha upon yuvati bhava that would appear to make marriage unsustainable or at least extremely difficult. Despite Mr. Clinton's infamous marital indiscretions, he has remained legally married to Hillary Clinton since 1975. Neither he nor Mrs. Clinton have ever announced a separation. Guru in domain-2 for the 08h51 BT would suggest the availability of a second spouse. 

03h44 BT = domain-2 Simha containing the brilliant, regal,  political, and dignified Surya-Simha. Ravi = uchcha in navamsha. According to the 03h44 BT, if Mr. Clinton were to remarry, it would never be in a state of disgrace (such as after divorce) but rather only in a dignified widowhood. 

Chandra

03h44 BT =  Chandra out of 8 and into 10; out of Krittika and into Bharani. Soma = 10/Bharani seems right, given that Mr. Clinton became world famous (typical of Chandra/10) and also considering Mr. Clinton's famed late-night work habits (Bharani + Shani/1).

Also, Shukra lord of Bharani is notoriously fallen on Mr. Clinton's day of birth; and this might account for his emotional outreach to "fallen women", his own mother's rather chequered past, and a general emotional need for the company of younger women of lower status, as a lifelong psychological pattern. 

Vimshottari Dasha

The intimate psychology of a nativity is infinitely debatable. What is judged to be culturally inappropriate or self-destructive is rather subjective, in the eye of the beholder. However the Vimshottari Dasha is where the "rubber meets the road" in Jyotisha. Factual events occurring in the lifetime should match correctly with the timelords and the houses they control, or else there is something wrong with the birth data.

Marriage timing

08h41 BT =  marriage timing for Mr. Clinton = highly problematic Rahu/Shani.

03h41 BT =  marriage timing = Rahu/Rahu. Rahu is an excellent Jyotisha indicator of marriage, especially for marriage to one long desired. (The story is that he pursued Hillary quite diligently.) Also, beginning of a new mahadasha typically signifies a new life phase.

Election Timing

08h41 BT = The presidential election timing for Mr. Clinton =highly problematic Guru/Budha

03h41 BT =  Guru/Guru for 03h41 BT is an r = a reasonable  indicator of a dramatic new life phase.

Timing of Mrs. Clinton named USA Sec-State 

After an exhausting run in the presidential primary followed by a grudging defeat, Hillary Clinton was named USA Sec-State by her previous opponent the new 2008 president Barack Obama. It was a very difficult year in her life and no doubt in her husband's, but the result (typical of Shani) was high dignity for Mrs. Clinton and a return to public advising and negotiating role for her husband (albeit behind the scenes).

03h41 BT = L-7 Shani/Shani with Shani in radix lagna  would seem like a highly appropriate Vimshottari period to mark these events.

08h41 BT =  a less satisfying Shani/Budha.  Also, beginning of a new mahadasha signifies a new life phase.


Kanya lagna Leaders: 

  1. UK-PM Tony Blair [Chitra]

  2. Rus. Pres. Vladimir Putin [Chitra]

  3. USA Pres 33, Harry Truman [Hasta]

  4. USA Pres 28, Woodrow Wilson  [Hasta]

  5. USA Pres 34 Dwight D. Eisenhower  [Hasta]

  6. USA Pres 35 John F. Kennedy   [Hasta]

  7. UK-PM Winston Churchill [Uttaraphalguni]

  8. USA Pres 32 Franklin D. Roosevelt   [Uttaraphalguni]


Bill Clinton: 

  • born 19-Aug-1949

  • 1968 Georgetown B.S., Foreign Service

  • 1970 Oxford Honors History

  • 1973 Yale J.D. 

  • 1974 defeated in bid for Arkansas's Congressional 3rd District

  • 1975 marries fellow law professor & social activist, Hillary Rodham

  • 1976 wins Attorney general Arkansas

  • 1978 wins Governor of Arkansas (2-year term)

  • 1980 daughter born

  • 1980 defeated in re-election Governor of Arkansas 

  • 1982 wins re-election Governor of Arkansas, remained 'til 1992, total service = 12 years 

  • 1992 wins  USA presidency

  • 1996 wins reelection to the  USA presidency, total 8 years as President Jan-1993-to-Jan-2001

  • 2000 Hillary Clinton elected US Senator from New York

  • 2006 Hillary Clinton re-elected US Senator from New York

  • 2008 Hillary Clinton loses competition for Democratic Party presidential candidate

  • 2008 Hillary Clinton nominated by Barack Obama for Secretary of State; confirmed.


Rising Degree of the Navamsha Lagna = 22 Mesha (Aries).   

According to M.C. Jain in The Stars and your Future, (p 12) 22 Mesha = the "Degree of Faith":


"Denotes a devout person who will be subjected to many trials and taunts in life, but who will, by the strength of his faith, overcome them all.

He comes from the masses rather than the classes, and his sympathy will ever be with the struggling people of the nations.

From officialdom and materialism he receives scant courtesy."


Dominant House Lords (D-1 and D-9):  William Jefferson Clinton

The Seven rashi-owning graha

Extra credit for being D-1 or D-9: 

- lagnesha

- lord of Chandra

-Lord of Arudha lagna

# of planets in His rashi, in radix (including Rahu/Ketu)

# of graha in His rashi, in navamsha (including Rahu/Ketu)

Total

Sun - Moon 

0

3

1

4

Mars 

2

2

3

7

Mercury

1

2

2

5

Jupiter  

1

0

1

2

Venus

1

2

1

4

Saturn 

0

0

1

1

totals

5

9

9

23


Dominant lords of Career lagnas (D-1, D-9 & D-10): 

William Jefferson Clinton


  • This weighting includes dashamsha. 

  • Grahas which play a dominant role in the personality AND also own key lagnas in the D-1, D-9, and D-10 will strengthen and direct the career.  

  • If the strongest personality grahas do not show up in the career lagnas, the career will be modest.

Primary career lagnas

1

Lord of the Navamsha of Radix L-10 - see how He behaves in radix

  • Kuja

2

Lord of the Dashamsha of Radix L-10 - see how this graha behaves in radix

  • Chandra

3

Lord of 10th Navamsha  - see how this graha behaves in radix

  • Shani

4

Lord of 10th Dashamsha - see how this graha behaves in radix

  • Budha

5

Lord of Dashamsha lagna (ascendant)

  • Budha

Secondary career lagnas 

6

Lord of radix Karmaa Bhava

  • Budha

7

Grahas which occupy Karmaa Bhava

  • -----------

8

Lord of Yuvati bhava (10th-from-10th)

  • Guru

9

Lord of 10th-from-Chandra

  • Shani

10

Lord of 10th-from-Arudha lagna

  • Shani


Karakamsha = domain-4 Dhanau

Bill Clinton was known as "the Education President". His administration was distinguished by sharply higher rates of home-ownership in the U.S. adult population.


Shukra in Hasta Lagna:

"Romantic nature, a good speaker and a comedian. Is generous and helpful to the poor; is very lovable." 

~~ Shil-Ponde. (1939). Hindu Astrology Joytisha-Shastra. p 141.


Mangala in Hasta Lagna:

"Artistic; modest; a serious writer; is somewhat sarcastic; adept at satire; gentle on the surface but shrewd and searching beneath. 

Very versatile, a jack-of-all trades but master of none; usually among the reformers working for the public welfare and the betterment of the community against those in authority." 

~~ Shil-Ponde. (1939). Hindu Astrology Joytisha-Shastra. p 148.


Prominent Graha in the Nativity

Shadbala: Surya & Kuja

Kuja is the dominant graha in terms of owning lagnas & inhabited rashis in the combined D-1/D-9 nativity. 

But Surya is strong by classical shad bala: 


Charismatic Surya = 

  • Swakshetra in radix

  • Uchcha in navamsha lagna + swakshetra kuja! (He really needs to win!)

Clinton has a tremendous amount of vital male energy (Kuja) & abundant mental capability (Budha) and a good dose of charismatic political charm (Surya, natural lord of putra sthana for gambling/creativity/politics).


Brief overview of Bill Clinton's most prominent radix grahas

Kuja

Mark of a Winner: Bill Clinton's life is dominated by energetic & highly malefic L-3/L-8 Kuja.  

Sex

Clinton has the a classic Kanya-lagna male issues with secret (8) sexual pursuits (Kuja) which are ultimately announced (3) to the public. The stronger Kuja's position, the more Kanya's secret sexual dalliances are problematic for the native. In Clinton's case, Kuja occupies lagna with the neechcha Shukra. It is a foregone conclusion that his troubles will involve insecure women and ultimately the scandal(s) will go very public.

With Kuja rising in radix, navamsha, and dashamsha, Clinton is clearly focused on *winning* whatever competition he chooses to enter.  Self-defensive and prone to the typical biting sarcasm of Kuja-Kanya.

Kuja dosha on the marriage house characterized by hyper-competitive & critical (and usually hypocritical) Mars.

Kuja receives difficult drishti from both L-5/L-6 Shani (discipline) & amplifier Rahu (entitlement).

Budha:

Verbal, rationalizing Budha is strong for the personality in general in radix & navamsha. Budha is extremely strong for career as L-1 and L-10 dashamsha. Major career successes should occur in periods of Budha. 

Shukra:

Neechcha L-2/L-5 Shukra in lagna gives romance trouble and mouth trouble. Relations with prostitutes and junk food.  Also lifelong compassionate affinity for the underclass (neechcha Shukra). 

One benefit of L-7 in lagna is marriage longevity due to character of the spouse.

The marriage partner (L-7) is strongly identified with the native's social personality (1), and the partner's loyalty to the partnership runs deep.

Chandra:

Troublesome rash-acting, critical competitive Krittika Moon is house-8 prone to sharp criticism of others; and impulsive, self-serving secret liaisons. 

Krittika = criticism = 'the cutters'.

Shani:

Shani oppressing lagnesha Budha gives careful legal argumentation but also difficulty locating the sense of authentic truthfulness.

"Slick Willy" is usually able to compensate for his energetic excess by clever marketing spins and the moral offset of consistent, demanding work in the public interest (Shani)

But his own words (Budha) are generally not trusted.


Attitude toward Marriage

Mesha = navamsha lagna = marriage is primarily physical experience. Compare to Mahatma Gandhi. The D-9 lagna shows an extremely vital and vigorous agent of "sexual pursuit" due to uchcha Surya and swakshetra Kuja in Mesha lagna. This man has a tremendous amount of instinctive animal power, combined with a rather primitive and selfish understanding of the marriage bond. 

The native's behavior in marriage = the highly inauspicious L-3/L-8 Kuja/Kanya/1. The native is aggressively argumentative in marriage. Kuja is mixed up with the neechcha L-2/L-9 Shukra which represents both wealth and "fallen women". 

The native will be a philanderer and addicted to weak women who flatter his ego. He will marry a warrior-woman who brings him wealth and fame (Shukra).


Marriage:

The marriage of William Clinton & Hillary Rodham Clinton has been widely analyzed in the press.  

If the 08:51 hrs birth time for Bill Clinton is accepted, a few important observations can be made from the husband's perspective, on a marriage that has survived significant public & private trauma.  

The Clinton's marriage has become iconic for many married adult members of the USA professional classes.  The Clinton-Rodham union has come to serve as a teaching example for legions of USA professional spouses who juggle two prominent careers, a home with children, and often extremely heavy public responsibilities including extensive travel - while somehow remaining spiritually & emotionally aligned in life partnership.

Hillary's radix Thula Lagna = Bill's 7th navamsha; Hillary's radix Kumbha Moon in Bill's 11th navamsha for Friendship 

Hillary R. Clinton's Jyotisha charts are constructed from a 08h02  birth time.

The bond of partnership is heartfelt. 

Hillary's navamsha Moon (Vrischika) also matches Bill's  radix Rahu-Ketu; one of the signs of an enduring human relationship. Marriage on the last day of Rahu-Ketu transiting the axis of Rishabha-Vrischika, 11-Oct-1975.

Bill's Mesha Chandra occupies Hillary's radix yuvati bhava, opposed to her Shukra; also yuti her navamsha Shukra in Mesha. 7th-from-Shukra shows affection, appreciation, and friendliness in a partnership.

Neechcha Shukra

Bill Clinton's radix is not favorable for conventional marriage. He appears to be a complex, difficult and perhaps immature marriage partner who attracts a capable, ambitious, serious, & energetic spouse. 

Neechcha Shukra in Bill's nativity casts drishti upon the marriage house. Indicates that the spouse has her own self-esteem issues related to deficiency of feminine confidence, due to excess mentalizing analysis. Self-destructive perfectionism in the female, profligacy and analytical comparing of women in the male.

  • Neechcha Shukra = a lifetime of trouble from attractions to fallen women. 

    • Shukra + Kuja in Kanya, a poor rashi for both Kuja & Shukra to occupy, suggests that one's spouse is not inclined to be romantic, but rather is focused on competitive [Mangala] verbal argumentation [Kanya], as a primary means of affirming the marital bond.

Generally speaking, Clinton is attracted to troubled women.

Kuja-Kanya in lagna - caveat, 08h51 BT = questionable

  • Kuja is very uncomfortable in the rashi of His enemy Budha. Mangala-Kanya is prone to sarcasm, criticism overt & covert, and general self-defensive passive-aggressive complaining and blaming behaviors. 

  • Due to Shukra + Kuja with a putative drishti upon house-7, the first wife will display qualities of competitiveness, critical analysis, sporting athleticism, & a broadly pleasant diplomatic fluency of speech due to Guru.  

  • When Kuja rises, both spouses share a drive toward vigorous competition.  

  • In Kanya, most of this competition is verbal, in the form of argumentation which renders a very successful position for high-achieving lawyers, politicians, deal-makers, & negotiators.

  • Inauspicious for marriage: Kuja Dosha is formed from the highly inauspicious rising L-3/L-8 Mars. As always for Chandra-Mesha, Kuja is both lord of Chandra, and lord of 8th-from-Chandra. Note if BT is changed to the alternative 03h44, the Kuja dosha affects only houses 6, 9 and 10 -- generally a positive effect except for the dosha upon 9 giving some conflict with the father. (Conflict with the father is a fact of Mr. Clinton's biography.)

 Guru:

  • L-7 Guru occupies 8th-from-swakshetra 

  • Kuja's drishti from lagna upon house-7 while Kuja also rules Chandra in a dusthamsha (with Chandra also in "critical Krittika"!) = constant critical interpersonal arguing between the spouses, despite their prosperous public lifestyle agreement facilitated by L-7 gracious, diplomatic vargottama Guru. 

  • Navamsha Guru gives the results of His lord Shukra, which is favorable in a general social way for peer relationships with women, and makes the native attractive to others in both public and private life.

Chandra

  • Krittika Chandra in house-8 receiving drishti of Lord Mangala is super-competitive, highly sexualized, & mentally criticizing; prone toward secret liaisons.

Power Marriage Success = Navamsha

  • Heroic, military genius planets rise in D-9.  Uchcha Surya & swakshetra Kuja propel Clinton's extraordinary success through virtually all obstacles.

  • Every period of his super-strong Mars will evoke the strength embedded in this power marriage. The wife provides essential balancing and designing skills, building a web of tightly supportive relationships around their charismatic union.

  • Drishti within navamsha from auspicious, diplomatic vargottama Guru/Thula shows the "power marriage" to be a lasting, influential, and ultimately admirable entity.


IMO, this marriage is driven by the thrill of competitive rational achievement.  

Both spouses want to Win with the best argument.  

Due to Guru's generous influence on this marriage, each individual's success is seen as a win for the partnership

However, if partners were to exit the competitive arena, there would be no other outlet for their incredibly competitive and extremely sharp argumentative energy.  A bitter divorce would almost instantly ensue.

Therefore the prescription for this marriage is for both spouses to stay extremely busy with matters of super-high prestige achievement for as long as humanly possible.  If they retire from public life, they will have to live separately.


Clinton's Kuja is a useful teaching example about the defining role of Navamsha planets.  

Often a very promising radix graha is ruined in navamsha, or a frightening radix planet gives ultimate success due to improvement in D-9.

Clinton's radix Kuja is definitely inauspicious, despite being obviously very competitive to the point of aggression, no doubt highly sexual in an adolescent athletic style, and sharp mentally too as Kuja carries forward the mental energy of His lord Budha.

As L-3/L-8 and lord of 8th-from-Chandra, Kuja is a troublemaker.  If the radix were the sole indicator of Clinton's Mars, this native could hardly achieve the governorship of Arkansas or a two-term the Presidency of USA. We would more likely expect a womanizing bar-fighter, always boasting & in trouble with the law, highly unfaithful and bitterly critical of others.

One of the keys to Clinton's success is in fact his remarkably empowered swakshetra Kuja in navamsha, which = "turned on" during every period of Mars.  

Yuti the charismatic and heroic uccha Surya, Clinton's D-9 swakshetra lagnesha Kuja is a mark of tremendous celebrity and public success.


Vimshottari Dasha Narrative:

Kuja/Guru: a significant educational degree, gained in period of L-4/L-7

  • 1964 graduate high school (in state with highest school dropout rate, lowest wages in nation) & join prestige eastern university.

Followed by a series of prerequisite diplomas 

  • 1968 Georgetown B.S., Foreign Service

  • 1970 Oxford Honors History


Rahu/Guru:

Culminating degree, in period of L-4/L-7

  • 1973 Yale J.D. /pass Bar

Rahu/Shani: 

setback, typical of early part of period of L-5/L-6 Shani

  • 1974 defeated in bid for Arkansas's Congressional 3rd District

Rahu/Shani: 

Marriage.  

Unless Shani = navamsha L-1 or navamsha L-7 (Shani is neither L-1 nor L-7 in Clinton's navamsha, see above) marriage in a Shani period connotes material ambition, social responsibility, or a larger sense of customary duty. Not a romantic motive.

Rahu/Shani: 

success, typical of later part of period of L-5/L-6 Shani which always takes TIME to bear fruit. Rahu/Shani period also gives beneficial  career effect of Shani's D-9 lord, Budha

  • 1976 wins Attorney General position, Arkansas

Rahu/Budha: 

Budha is the highly auspicious L-1/L-10 and lord of dashamsha, plus competitive boost from Budha's navamsha lord Kuja

  • 1978 wins election to post of  Governor of Arkansas (2-year term)


Rahu/Ketu: 

Ketu gives malefic effects of mental confusion and negative effects of L-3/L-8 Mars; there is scheming against him by a powerful priesthood (of wealthy corporate owners)

  • 1980 defeated in re-election for Governor of Arkansas 


Rahu/Shukra: 

benefits of L-2/L-9 plus Shukra gives excellent career effects of Shukra's navamsha lord Budha. Rahu casts drishti upon Shukra from dharma bhava, which increases the auspicious effects of Shukra for career activities:

  • 1982 wins re-election for Governor of Arkansas, remained until 1992

  •  total service = 12 years 


Guru/Guru

Guru/Budha: 

Excellent results of mahadasha pati L-4/L-7 (which gives a well-spoken and supportive wife) for career, combined with L-10/L-1 in 4/10 angle from Guru. As always periods of Budha evoke the competitive energy of Clinton's dominant radix Mangala, which infuses Budha periods with his intense need to Win.

  • 1992 wins  USA presidential election, defeating George H.W. Bush-41. Will hold the presidency for the full eight year maximum, suffering considerable scandal but also presiding over one of the most prosperous economies in US history.


Guru/Shukra: 

Shukra gives superb career results (see Rahu/Shukra) and under mahadasha pati Guru these results are sustained by Shukra's lord Guru.  Much of Guru period is due to strategic relationships esp. the wife & core partners.

  • 1996 wins reelection to the  USA presidency, total 8 years as President

  • widely recognized to have facilitated the best US national economy of the 20th century

  • neechcha Shukra does create an inappropriate sexual relationship (as it did during Shukra's earlier bhukti under Rahu)


Guru/Surya-Chandra = Trouble 

Surya occupies house-12 and Chandra occupies house-8.  This dushthamsha setup is bound to create troubles related to secret sexual liaisons, hidden knowledge, and corruption -- affecting both the native and his opponents.  

However, Surya is dignified in radix, navamsha and dashamsha.  Chandra in radix Krittika is relentlessly defensive and critical of the motives of others.  Chandra evokes mahadasha pati Guru's protective power from navamsha, and Chandra evokes Shani's capacity for justice and censure, from dashamsha.

  • Although Clinton was punished for lying (certainly his moral weak spot given the condition of Mars and house-3), 

  • Guru's strength prevents scandal and the resulting technical impeachment from damaging the long-term prestige of his career.  


Shani/Shani

Shani/Kuja: 

Shani mahadasha marks a major lifestyle change, with no further offices to be competitively won.  

Voluntary participation in public life. L-5/L6 Shani occupying house-11 of gains yuti L-1/L-10 indicates ongoing gainfulness through community involvement (including mature willingness to tackle social conflict of L-6) and personal fame of L-1/L-5/L-10 effect.  

The end of Clinton's competitive public office-seeking occurs simultaneously with the beginning of Hillary Clinton's office-seeking thrust.  

Swakshetra Kuja is extremely strong in navamsha where indicating that Clinton's personal love of competition is shared with his wife, and L-7 Guru occupying the navamsha indicates they are team players: she supports him , and he supports her.

  • 2000 Hillary Clinton elected USA Senator from New York


Shani/L-10-L-1 Budha: 

Budha is auspicious as always for career of the power couple; the wife's speech indicated by Budha in 8th navamsha, is characteristically aggressive & evokes Clinton's own competitive winner's energy.  Notably, Hillary campaigned in support of war - a hallmark of Kuja.

  • 2006 Hillary Clinton re-elected US Senator from New York

  • 2007-2008: Bill Clinton campaigning for his wife Hillary Clinton's bid for the USA Presidency

  • 2008: Hillary loses the Democratic party's "primary" elections. 

    Spouse's political winnings = 5th-from-7th = Kakata = domain-11

    • Budha = lord of 12th-from-11th, signifying wife's loss of major speculative election

    • Budha + Shani, where Shani = L-5/L-6 = both political gambling and severe animosity and conflict

    • It is widely observed that Hillary R. Clinton lost the presidential competition due to dramatic displays of animosity and ill-will toward her opponent.

  • Dec 2008 - Hillary Clinton appointed USA Secretary of State - 

  

file update: 30-Jan-2010

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