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Most difficult
bhava = 3,4,5,6,11 |

Rashi Lagna
Om Sri Ram Dasrathaye Namah
12 Bhava
counted from
Thula
Lagna
Phul (fruits)
= applies as well or better to Thula-Chandra lagna
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Bhava
1 - Thula
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Appearances , Clothing Style -
Physical Body, Social
Personality, -
Metonymic, Iconic-Symbolic or Photo-Image representations
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Lagnesha
Shukra
rules a natural house = swabhava of
neutral
Kuja. Bhava-1 signifies personal
competition for social
validation through a winning combination of physical
behaviors and traits.
The Thula native seeks to develop
the physical personality identity through association with Attorneys
and conflict resolution through the law courts, negotiation and
brokering, making of contracts and alliances, and relationships which
enhance mutual wealth and pleasure of the partners.
The social personality has an
inherent affinity for balancing and arranging, Architecture and
design, works of fine art and musical composition, and luxurious
surroundings. the native is
particularly influenced by one's partners,both personal and
professional (whether favorably or not); one prefers an
aesthetic
response to life.
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Thula natives are generally agreeable,
design-loving,
harmony-seeking, alliance-building folk who have a strong aesthetic
interest in counseling and advisingothers.
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They strive to
maintain a competitively
attractivepersonality and physical appearance.
Thula, Life, and Death
Shukra's co-lordship of bhava-8
Vrishabha can be problematic, at least in the public perception. Thula can, ironically, seem rather macabre in the extent of one's
tolerance
for the violenceof the cycle of death-and-rebirth.
Thula accepts death as an aesthetically vital part of life's constant
re-balancing, and Thula does not complain about the necessity of
having to die in exchange for the possibility of a better new life.
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For the Thula native, both of the
natural houses of Mangala are ruled by Shukra.
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Thus Thula possesses has a
surprising and peculiarly aesthetic appreciation for the
shocking
beauty of traumatic disasters(8, the natural specialty of
Mangala) and forced, catastrophic change of all types(8).
(Particularly the Vishaka
Shakti-folk!)
Thula natives love mysteries and secrets(8).
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One
holds a broad affection (Shukra) for matters of birth (1)
and re-birth (8); of creation (1) and destruction (8); of
appearances (1) and disappearances (8); of the beauty of the stable
physical
human form (1) and its sudden transformation through surgery,
psychotherapy, psychic healing, emergency, tantric magic, or other
catastrophic style of rebirth.
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Thus this native is a lover of both birth and death,
stability and change, mass and energy, form and content.
The Thula native may be a skilled director of
stable, harmonious relationships and good design in all things.
Yet, one is simultaneously quite aware of the presence of those
cyclical forces which cause the death of relationships (8), and which
eventually create the perfect conditions for the death of ones own
self (8).
Physical Appearance
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Balanced physical features, tendency toward
a more
fair or pastel type of complexion, relative to the patterns within one's genetic group. (However
a strong
influence from Kuja can darken the overall coloring, and Guru casts a
golden glow.)
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the native is attractive to both
men and women.
In
addition to being naturally gifted with physical beauty (presuming
Shukra is auspicious), the Thula native easily accepts professional
"handling" to improve their presentation, through skillful
use of scents, paints and costume. Their appearance is normally impeccable.
This nativity will flourish when Shukra,
Shani and Chandraare strong, and Kuja/Surya/Guru do not
interfere. Guru as L-3+L-6 is a naturally inauspicious influence upon
this native. Ideally Guru should be weak.
Thula lagna's signature capability is the
power to create and sustain many layers of supportive agreements.
Thula succeeds through a combination of
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personal attractiveness
(L-1 Shukra) -
respect for cultural
customs (L-4 Shani) -
active crafting of agreements (L-7
Kuja) -
emotional engagement in leadership roles
(L-10 Chandra)
The list of global power brokers, religious
leaders, and celebrities at left indicates how inordinately
influentialare Thula nativities in the world.
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Das /
Behari comment
on Thula= bhava-1:
[applies as well or better to Chandra lagna]
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"Libra Ascendant usually bestows a long face, an attractive appearance, tender eyes,
and sparsely set teeth.
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You are generally above average height, lean
and thin.
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Mentally, you are disorganized, emotionally unstable,
and socially unbalanced. -
You are extravagant, generous, helpful and simple at heart.
You crave social contact
and the assurance that other people need you. -
You are also subject to
contradictory thoughts
and actions; you are fond justice and law but easily
irritated.
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Your friends and benefactors tend to be
well-placed individuals , but you can also associate with dishonest people who, unfortunately, stick with you for years. -
Physically you appear strong and healthy but you may secretly suffer from diseases relating to the loins
and kidneys.
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You should take precaution against urinary tract infections. -
You may have a strong desire for artistic achievement but fail to actualize it.
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Fond of helping the lowly , and so much so that you may use base acts to achieve your goals.
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You respect spiritual leaders because they respect principle centered
persons. -
You are often too driven to stick strictly to principles
yourself, but
would rather see to it that the objective gets carried
out ."
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Bhava
2 - Vrischika
= Scorpio
Kuja's
governance is not impeded in the natural house = swabhava of
neutral
Shukra.
Historical Values, Collection +
Portfolio, Hoards + Storage,
Acquisitions, Treasuries of Wealth + Knowledge
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Because Kuja is lord of 2nd-from-lagna and
7th-from-lagna, Thula natives have an ambitious and competitive
approach to matters of partnership and wealth-storage. One requires
forward movement in relationships, and is always bent on acquiring
more knowledge, food, or money.
Kuja family
knowledge-values-action Vrischika
= penetration, invasion, infiltration, subterfuge, emergency,
and forced transformation. the native may hail from a
family lineage of engineers (Kuja) such as miners,
drillers, machinists, surgeons, divers, excavators, detonators,
dynamiters, cutters, shooters, hunters, poisoners, or similar
Mangala expertise. The Vrischika lineage also executes
transmission of secrets and hidden treasures, therefore
sometimes money-handlers, bankers, keepers of repository and
cache of mysterious values.
Add in more details from also
2nd-from-Chandra. The disposition of Mangala and
graha within bhava-2 will add more puzzle-pieces to the
family lineage picture.
A penetrating
drive toward ancient knowledge, languages, history, stored
wealth and collections of mystical
art and music. Knowledge of the cycle of birth and death.
Exploratory, archeological, tantrik approach
to knowledge, wealth, values, history of one's people. Appearance of
face, hair etc. is slightly sharp.
Periods of Kuja may time
surgeries to the face and neck, teeth and jaw.
The family historysuffers from secrecy, and
is subject to sudden, forced
changes during periods of Kuja (and other graha in bhava-2).
The changes may range from slightly unsettling to massive and
catastrophic, depending on graha in bhava-2. (E.g., if Rahu in
bhava-2, family upheaval is much amplified.) The scale of the forced
changes may be hidden from public view.
Native stores knowledge and wealth deep within
the self. Memory-storage mechanism is
internally deep and recycling. Able to call forth, from hidden
resources, the values and
knowledge needed for the task at hand.
Stored wealth may be increased by inheritance,
lotteries, insurance settlements, and
hidden
sources.
the native may experience
intense hunger, driving one to eat furiously.
Hoarded wealth commodities and volume depend on
condition of Kuja. Values are self-reflective, mystical, tantrik,
and focused on psychic power. Less interest in accumulating knowledge
or goods which do not facilitate deeper understandings.
Appreciates the dark
sideof human nature and the instructional value of pain. Controls an
appreciable amount of wealth increasing throughout the lifetime,
punctuated with severe losses due to the catastrophic cycle of
Vrischika. Secretive about their acquisitions.
In
bhava-2, Rahu +
Yogakaraka Shani
suffers a variety of competitive
avarice for values-based knowledgealong with expressions of highly educated (4 + 5) taste:
"classic" art, music, furniture, and styles of
dress.
For Thula lagna, Ketu afflicts the second
house of treasuries, speech and song, knowledge of
languages, and historical values esp collections of material wealth.
The Thula native is raised with
an active (Kuja) even Aggressive
but also mystically Ambivalent approach to
asserting one's wealth-building behaviors.
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On the
one hand, the family lineage values material wealth acquisition;
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on
the other hand, there is a psychic or mystical undertow (Ketu) which
suggests that higher and more "portable" (cross-incarnational)
values should be the goal.
The family history may become
distant (Ketu) or aggressive (Kuja); the native typically feels
a considerable ambivalence toward the historic values of one's
own family, and often breaks away from the lineage
values.
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Das /
Behari:
says of Vrischika = bhava-2:
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Sahaja Bhava-
3 - Dhanusha
= Sagittarius
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The company one keeps-
small group interactive relationships.
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Mental Process, Repetitive Tasks,
Manual Skill
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Guru's
governance is strongly impeded
in the natural house = swabhava of enemy
Budha. The daily thoughts are infused with religious
awareness, but Attention to administrative detail may be
distracted by higher concepts. Liberal (book-study) minded; enjoys
the company of teachers. Guru = lord
of 3rd-from-lagna and 6th-from-lagna.
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an expansive and tolerant
approach toward group communications (3)
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also expresses
tolerance toward the perpetual human conflict (6) that causes
animosity, debt, or disease (6).
One accepts the repetitive daily
communications as a positive social experience and there is even a
degree of embrace for the internal argumentativeness which causes
external conflict. In Guru's view, it's all
good: nothing is rejected. Thus health imbalances and communication
dysfunctions may be tolerated for a long time.
Mental machinery of speech, writing,
and gesture are broad and expansive. Courageous and optimistic mental viewpoint.. If
Brihaspati is well placed, the thinking process itself is
inclusive, comprehensive, and humanistic.
If Guru is ill-disposed, communicative style may
tend toward unsupportably optimistic generalizations, pious
platitudes, and truisms.
Native has a large toolkit of communicative devices, and can "get
out the message" on a large scale. Conflict
between Brihaspati's wisdom-teaching agenda and Budha's data-detail
orientation leads to a frustration with most administrative roles.
Co-workers and teammates may find the native to be ponderous
and
overly concerned with the big picture, when the job calls for detail
management. the native 's enthusiasm is
indeed dulled by repetitive tasks which do not facilitate
wisdom-learning (Guru's only goal) and as a consequence, one may be
unable to tolerate modern office jobs, unless they have a teaching
dimension.
An natural teacher-trainer in many
subjects. . Seeks the "teaching opportunity" to conferences, meetings
and repetitive social
engagements. Friendly, positive and non-confrontational.
Enjoys building contacts and participating in teams. Great for
politics and corporate success.
Supports
favorable relationships with siblings if the third bhava from Chandra
is favorable. Likes to coach,
guide, train, and facilitate in the local (department, town,
regional) setting.
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Das /
Behari :
says of Dhanavana = bhava-3:
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"You gain
courageby
self-discipline,
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You are active and like law and order.
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Your spouse has a good influence on you."
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Bhava
4 - Makara
= Capricorn
Home, family, security, education,
indoctrination, cultural acceptance, the early childhood home, effect of
mother's culture
Yogakaraka
Shani
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regulator of security
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involved with social ethics, rules, ethnic customs
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needs a conventional, lawful, unpretentious home property
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property may be clay-colored,
wooden, brick, stone or bone, bland in character,
normative appearance
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Shani rules the natural house = swabhava of enemy
Chandra.
However lagnesha
Shukra = great friend of Shani and therefore
the early childhood situation is stable, safe, and not unduly
contentious. (unless Mangala or Rahu disturbs the house)
Homeland Defense Drive to achieve education and emphasize the common
structure underlying all systems of cultural customs. Shani is the
fixed enemy of "special genius" Surya. The Thula native may not be too
sentimental (Chandra) about defense of the homeland. One tends to
"normalize" human society into an aggregate structure, denying any claims about cultural superiority (Surya) of one's own
cultural roots, or other royalist assertions.
Parents and early
childhood education = Rules, Rules, Rules
Shani gives a shrewd
practical survival approach and ongoing resistance
to the conditions in place within one's childhood
home.
Scarcity (Shani) and respect for rules
(Makara) are key elements of the upbringing.
Others may cherish their parents, viewing these dedicated
caretakers uncritically or even worshipfully; yet Thula natives
are not sentimental. If there are criticisms of the parents,
Thula will assess those objectively. Thula shows respect to
parents but not always affection and certainly not uncritical
affection; that is how these natives were raised.
The parents = "hierophants" dedicated to the
promotion and maintenance of large pyramid-shaped social
institutions from which they derive their primary identity.
Parents are sensitive and respectful to all matters of class,
rank, and social station. The family home is bound by numerous
strict rules of order, and the childhood education follows the
mainstream public conventions of the time.
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If Shani = a problematic graha due to its role in the
overall nativity, the upbringing can repeat the narrative of
deprivation, constriction, enforced conformism, and bondage to
Time.
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A poorly placed Shani may indicate childhood resistance to
hierarchical structures, rankings, stages and steps, dogma,
government, and every variety of letter-of-the-law bureaucracy.
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If Shani is well-disposed, the native may enjoy a certain level
of material privilege.
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Yet even when Shani is good, this
privileged will be outweighed by a deep responsibility toward
social order inculcated early by one's parents, caretakers, and
school-teachers.
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The Thula child may find it easier to cooperate with
(or pander to) authority figures and may indeed appear to be a "parent-pleaser"
obsequiously cow-towing to school or church authorities.
Even if, from the outside, the native 's childhood home appears
comfortable or privileged, that is never the whole story.
Inner strictness of parental
rules and the deeper anxiety about potential instability
of the social order as a whole marks all Thula natives.
The rules of the home will ensure that the childhood is
experienced as a time of significant workload, duty, and lawful
responsibility.
Oftenscarcityof parental affection
(Shani overriding Chandra) and a culture of constraint in the childhood home.
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Even when childhood conditions are difficult, oppressive, or emotionally deprived, Shani
= yogakaraka L-4+L-5 gives favorable longer-term results in the adult years.
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Thula
natives often become leaders in their fields
due at least partly to their serious attitude toward study and the early
anti-genius, anti-entertainment discipline. (Shani = enemy of
genius-Surya)
Known for their disciplined and austere approach toward the task of
completing examinations, Thula natives
regularly succeed in obtaining difficult diplomas, licenses, and certifications (4).
These natives are known for
self-denial and their power to postpone pleasures in
favor of longer term goals. A non-indulgent childhood actually
prepares Thula to face most adult situations with sobriety and a
time-management plan. Thula natives train their intelligence (5) and
finish their
homework (4).
Emotional needs for security and
comfort must be suppressed in order to achieve security and comfort! The
childhood home emphasized public conformity, and relationship to
parents is more a duty
than a desire. Parental negligence. Cultural indoctrination
levels of education carry forward ethnno-cultural values of emotional discipline
and austerity. Education
is interrupted or delayed at several points. the native may have to
"go back to school" repeatedly. Shani in bhava-4 gives
discipline and successful suppression of emotional needs in order to
complete the education. the native does well in school. Shani in
bhava-2 makes the education gainful. Shani in bhava-3 may dissolve
educational opportunities during Shani periods.
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the native feels stable and secure in life when one can have a modest roof
over one's head and a
regular schedule. -
Shani does not like the
natural emotional fluctuations of Chandra. Volatility in the home is
intolerable; and if volatility persists, the native will simply leave. -
Can tolerate
and may indeed prefer long
separations from the home for purposes of work or structured
study. Seeks to establish "law and order" culture
in the home.Prefers a home made of wood and stone, or even
bones.
Conservative, conventionalized relationship to
parents, who are not emotionally demonstrative and who emphasize
performance of duty rather than affectionate bonds. Respect for
ethnic
custom and tradition. Understands the rules of vehicle operation and
land management, but personal property ownership is much delayed.
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During Shani periods, may live in collective housing. Appearance of
the home and vehicle is modest and unimposing, very uniform, and
likely one of a large number of identical properties.
Requires and imposes orderly process in basic
education;
prefers practical, skill-based training on a fixed schedule with
rule-driven outcomes.
If Shani is auspicious, makes a fine school
teacher, home-builder, vehicle engineer, or town manager.
Sample placements:
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Shani ( Enemy of Chandra) rules
bhava-4, therefore expect
some complications along the path to
achieving the deepest physical and emotional security in
life, due to rigidity and resistance.
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Shani or Mangala (fortunate) = competitive,
disciplined, future success in real-estate, vehicles,
or guardianship of the land (including military and
policing careers)
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Surya (weak) = parents are
very conventional and probably narrow-minded, concerned
with obtaining public approval via conformism. the native is patriotic and church-going or involved with community
associations in order to gain social security.
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Das /
Behari comment on Makara = bhava-4:
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"... makes you inwardly rebelliousand full of desires that you probably don't show to the outside world.
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You are really
driven, but you may show calm
outwardly."
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Bhava
5 - Kumbha
= Aquarius
Shani
=Yogakaraka Romance, Creativity,
Children, Performance Art, Authorship, Genius
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theatre of large, complex, rule-driven systems
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performance art of marketplace networks of association,
electro-magnetic device networks, progressive social movements
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Shani's governance is
strongly
impeded in the natural house = swabhava of
enemy
Surya.
Because Shani is lord of 4th-from-lagna and
5th-from-lagna, Thula natives have a disciplined and austere
approach toward matters of cultural education and expressions of
creative genius. These natives are known for skillful problem-solving.
They are well-prepared to face most situations because Thula natives
train their intelligence and do their homework.
Shani is yoga-karaka for Thula lagna. Results of
Shani as lord of enemy Surya's bhava are surprisingly favorable as a
rule. Controlled self-expression prevents going overboard, gives a
steady upward climb in large organizational hierarchies.
Depending on the condition of
Shani, the Self may express in a reserved or eccentric
way. Native is considered interesting and philosophical, even
visionary -- but still conservative and group-oriented. Their vision
is socially egalitarian and inclusive.
Children can be problematic. Most common issue
is physical and emotional distancing, due to the parent's public
duties. the native may hold an idealized view of childhood and of
one's own children, which prevents intimacy and acceptance.
If Shani is auspicious the native may be an
exemplary educator, inspiring students to reach high standards.
Children may also receive benefits of parents' social position.
Children may compensate for lack of direct parenting by forming
valuable relationships with the parents' friends. Community
child-raising is favored.
For Thula lagna,Rahu afflicts
fifth
houseof children, theatre, politics, creativity, and
Divine intelligence.
Conditions for producing and
raising children, and one's ability to receive praise for acts
of creative genius (5) will occur in the context of a certain scientific rigidity(Shani) combined with sudden attacks of
upheaval
due to passionate behavior of the children(especially the
eldest child).
The Thula native's children (5)
are subject to
mixed
signals:
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On the one hand, Shani as lord of Kumbha
gives visionary scientific and conceptual thought - which
mentality, overlaid upon the house of Genius, can produce some
extraordinary
research intelligence.
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On the other hand, Rahu contributes a
taboo-breaking enthusiasm toward children and celebration of
one's own genius which results in a higher
enthusiasm for risky
adventure in the acts of self-expression and receiving applause.
The children will be scientific-minded and culturally
unusual.
Children
Children can be produced or acquired in periods of L-1
Shukra+ L-5 Shani, L-9 Budha as well as periods of
putrakaraka Guru.
Because Guru the karaka for children is also
L-3+L-6 for Thula lagna, childbirth is not easy, often
accompanied by illness or injury, and child-raising tends
to induce dissolution of the home (3) and dissolution of
marriage bond (6).
Children
are a stress source for Thula even while the Thula native
loves the children very much. Number of children is
typically limited because L-5 Shani is a karaka for
scarcity,
limitation, reduction of available resources - particularly
Time.
The Thula female often has a maternal
instinct for governance due to Chandra as L-10, therefore
much of the parenting instinct may be parlayed into taking
care of entire societies and not focused on one's own
family.
Shani rules a house of Surya = incompatible
influences; hot bright stream and cold dark stream mixing in the same
channel.
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Das /
Behari
comment on Kumbha = bhava-5:
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"... influences you in very important ways.
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Only after
great effortwill you succeed in begetting children,
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Your
scrupulous adherence to an
ethical way of life will often put you to
serious trials, but you will be able to withstand the ordeals
of principled
living. -
You will be interested in making life useful
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You will be prepared to
be a martyrfor the sake of attaining the
goal in life. -
Your ideas,however well-meaning, will create problems for you and your parents."
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Bhava
6 = 6th from
Thula lagna = 6th
from ThulaChandra= 6th from Thula navamsha
Guru's
governance is strongly impeded in the natural house = swabhava
of enemy
Budha.
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Dissolution of contracts and agreements.
Quarrels, arguments, war.
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"Social work", servants, servitude, ministries of
service.
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Medicine, physicians, illness, conflicts,
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Poverty, exploitation, money loans, usurious
practices,
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prostitution, hotels and restaurants, traveler's aid,
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Criminal attorneys, litigation,
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jail
(not prison), criminals and crimes.
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Tolerant Meena
governs the ministries of service, dissolution of
mutually supportive agreements, and capacity for logical
argument.
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Compassion for servants, animals,
the exploited and the dispossessed
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Multiple, diverse quarrels
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Tolerance for problematicity
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Broad awareness of human suffering
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One serves, ironically, via
arguing
the cause of wisdom
Flipped:
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Compassionate Guru the
non-discriminating wise sage who accepts all phenomena =
dharma
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governs the natural house = swabhava of mentalized
Budha the detailed, super-discriminating Lord of Logical
Categories.
There is a great
openness and kindly acceptance toward all sorts of people
who suffer from crippling poverty (6) toxic jealousy (6) bitter
animosity (6) exploitative behaviors (6) extreme narrowness of
viewpoint (6) and chronic argumentativeness (6).
The problem-solving mind is positively
bulging with an abundance of humanistic
philosophical conflicts
Caution = Psychic
overextension
Due to their well-meaning openness toward
all beings, Thula must consciously enforce their psychic
boundaries.
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Thula natives and to a nearly equal
extent also Karkata
natives (for whom Guru also
rules 6) may suffer disease originating in toxic
environments which are ultimately caused by the blaming, accusative, toxic
argumentation of 6
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proliferation and abundance of a great
amount of conflict in the native 's social, physical,
emotional, financial, mental, even spiritual environments.
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Both Thula and Karkata may
overexpand physically with some tendency toward
fleshly obesity in a misguided attempt to "include" all
these many problems in one's personal "space"
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It should be understood that the
originators of the conflicts are largely "others" and the
problems rightfully "belong" to persons who belong to a
class below the class of the native
Excellent placement for
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physicians, criminal - divorce
attorneys, ministers of charitable service, social workers,
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professorial teachers (Guru) to
all of these service professionals
Special affinity to handle conflicts (6)
regarding social policy and social governance(10).
Thula natives have an expansive and
tolerant approach toward those expressions of social conflict which results from an internal narrative of blaming and
accusation (6). In Guru's
non-discriminatory view, "it's all good":
nothing in the many realms of material-spiritual manifestation is ever rejected.
Health imbalances, blaming behaviors,
poverty, and conditions of war may be tolerated for a long time.
Health can be compromised by
excess
and
abundance.
Extensive public duties may lead to much grazing at social events, and
excess unmonitored intake of food and drink may lead to portliness
or indigestion. However in general if Guru is even reasonably well
positioned, the native will enjoy good health and good company.
Depending on condition of Guru, tends to have few real enemies.
Many people will feel obliged to follow one's instructions or commands
despite feeling exploited by one's higher knowledge. Guru is a priest
and this native is a pries to the unbalanced and unfortunate, those
unable to locate a point of agreement in their own lives.
the native is a beacon of wisdom-light and yet many will disagree with the
wisdom; the native 's beliefs may not be well liked or trusted and yet
one will be respected, and one's commands will be heeded no matter the
amount of complaining (and often depending on Lord Guru the amount of
complaining may be significant!).
the native may be unpopular at times,
but Guru as lord of the evil 6th house assures that Thula-lagna's
balanced, attractive, relationship-valuing assets are stronger than
the potential animosity deficit which attends Ari bhava in any
nativity.
They get into trouble during periods of L-6 just like everyone else, but their
virtues tend to balance out
their faults, and their friends will outnumber their enemies.
Generally when they err or irritate it will be perceived by their
colleagues that they received bad advice.
This person makes their fair
share of mistakes. But they value relationships, and they are quick
to repair the damage. Rarely suffers long-lasting ill will.
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Das /
Behari:
says of Meena = bhava-6:
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"Out of fear or respect many people obey
you.
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You wield some power which is society-directed. -
To follow your goals, you have to
sacrifice. -
You get into quarrels with powerful forcesin order to pursue your work or objectives."
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Das /
Behari
comment on L-10 Chandra-Meena = bhava-6:
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"The Moon fails to protect and makes you
vulnerable to severe hostile onslaughts.
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In public office, the
situation may deteriorate to such an extent that you may
face suspension or demotion.
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Physically you may be afflicted with pleurisy or indigestion.
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Expenditures will much
exceed your income and you will be in debt.
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Allegations of moral turpitude
may be leveled against you. "
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Bhava
7
= 7th from Thula lagna
= 7th from Thula Chandra
= 7th from Thula navamsha
Kuja's governance is not impeded in the
natural house = swabhava of
neutralShukra.
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Mesha
governs the character of shared-equity
alliances + one's capacity to keep
promises and
maintain trust.
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Kuja = lord
of 2nd-from-lagna and 7th-from-lagna,
Mating Behaviors
Characteristics of bhava-7 define the spousal behaviors, which
behaviors are the result of the native 's own subconscious
expectations.
Generally the Thula native expects (whether consciously or not)
to mate with a person (male or female) of hot, vital, irascible,
innovative, sporting, "alpha", and muscularly
active personality.
The partner requires vigorous movement and has
primitive, aggressive, animal tendencies which can aid
success in competitive business but
also harm the prospects for long-term harmony in relationships.
A conundrum for Thula marriage =
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self-propelled, crusading
Mangala goes out to Act, Move, Challenge and Conquer.
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At times of Mangala-driven peak
energetic movement,
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Fundamentally, Thula's
Martian partners may be
constitutionally unable to consider anyone
else's concerns, as Kuja's focus is entirely contained
within the individual birth-body
-
a fact of working marriage practice
for Thula is that Thula's own stake-holder equity
interest in the partnership is relatively less
important to Thula's partners than it is to Thula.
-
Luckily, Thula is possessed of
Shukra-based negotiating and re-adjustment skills that can -
depending on the strength of Shukra - accommodate the
primitive selfishness of the partner and maintain the public
alliance
Mangala is impatient therefore longer term marriages for Thula
may require considerable accommodation of the restless,
impulsive, and sometimes angry expressions of the more
simplistic nature of the spouse.
The Thula native has a more complex and balanced character in
contrast to the spouses that the Thula expects to acquire who
are in comparison more simple and direct. The Thula native
applies their harmonious, willing-to-negotiate, and balanced
perspective to matters of marriage.
Yet if Mangala is ill-disposed no matter the intent of Thula's
diplomacy, the primitive animal urgency of Mangala may force the
spouse to seek outlets for the sexual, muscular, impulsive
life-force energies of the flesh.
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Hillary
Clinton suffers the consequence of neechchamsha L-7 Kuja --
albeit her troubled Kuja is involved with a Throne Yoga
(Kuja yuti Shani in Karkata-10). Her husband is notoriously
impulsive in matters of the flesh, yet his vitality is the
key to her career (10).
-
Mrs. Clinton's swakshetra
lagnesha Shukra + neechcha-bhanga Surya in lagna is
spectacularly strong; therefore her diplomatic
capabilities are so magnificent as to endure her
husbands numerous very public indiscretions
-
In typical Thula style she has
accommodated his vulgarities in order to further her own
objectives.
-
The thrice-married action-hero film
dramatist Tom Cruise
= L-7 Mangala in bhava-8yuti Budha. Agreements (7) of all
types = somewhat aggressive and volatile.
Native = inclined toward mysterious liaisons. For
Thula, Mangala-8 + youthful Kumara produces a
frequent-turnover cycle of increasingly younger, more
sensually attractive wives from each of whom the native eventually withdraws (L-12 Budha).
Such a mate generally behaves in a competitive and
dominating style toward members of their own gender whilst they
focus a sexually ambitious and conquesting energy upon members
of the gender with whom they prefer to partner.
Thula natives have an ambitious and competitive
approach to matters of partnership and wealth-storage. One requires
forward movement in relationships, and is always bent on acquiring
more knowledge, food, or money.
Marriage relations can be predominantly physical, with
early attraction inspired by competitive success. Depends
as always on the condition of Kuja.
Contracts, agreements, legal discussions, all
types of advising are actively pursued and negotiated. Due to
Shani's strength in Thula nativities, divorce is less common, but marital
unhappiness may increase with time. Despite a tolerance or even
enjoyment of protracted negotiations in small-group and public
settings, the Thula native may need to feel a quick 'win' in intimate
relationships. Combative, aggressive streak in marriage is
noted.
Career-wise, this argumentative or actively
negotiating character can be beneficial in law, politics, and higher
levels corporate management.
Spouse is generally athletic or professionally
competitive. If Shani is auspicious, the spouse's career is
complementary to the native . If Kuja is auspicious, the spouse is
vital and embraces challenge. If Kuja is inauspicious, marriage is
conflicted and the career will not develop to full potential, so
important is yuvati bhava to the total career success.
"If
Aries, Scorpio be descending, or Mars' Navamsha be
descending,
the woman will get a husband, angry but devoted
to her."
~~ Bhrigu SutramCh.
2
4 Shloka 11
"If at woman's birth, the 7th bhava
or the setting Navamsha be that of Mars,
the husband will be fond of other
women and will be of an irascible temper."
~~BPHS Ch. 80,
shloka 22-25
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Das /
Behari comment on
Mesha = bhava-7
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"...in relationshipsyou are an
explorer, aggressive,
and unafraid. -
This sign will
increase the
sex
drive, not decrease it. -
You may see marriage more as a release than
as a duty,
-
but on the other hand, you may be very
competitivewith the spouse
as well."
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Bhava
8 =
8th from Thula lagna =
8th from Thula
Chandra
= 8th from
Thula
navamsha
Shukra's
governance is not impeded in the natural house = swabhava of neutral
Mangala.
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Sudden, forced changes; catastrophic upheavals;
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Joint assets of marriage, secret matters,
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therapeutics,
healing, taboos, taxes, tantra; in-laws; speech and values of
the spouse
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Nativitiesdeveloped from a baseline
of Thula lagna(similar to nativities developed from a
baseline of Mesha lagna) must
accommodate the psycho-physical reality that one's social
identity is subject to regular upheavals. This phenomenon is due
to the fact that lagnesha Shukra rules both the fleshly-form,
social-attribute-package baseline of the Thula lagna, as well as
the sudden-change-of-form, disruption-of-development 8th bhava.
Thus,
Vimshottari
periods of Shukra function as a
double-edged sword, creating experiences which
radically redefine the social-material identity, often
via some challenge or alteration to the integrity of the
physical appearance. If there are
exacerbating contributors such as malefic graha in either
bhava-1 or bhava-8 (esp in 8) or Shukra has a relationship to
8th-from-Chandra, there can be truly catastrophic upheavals in
the material-social identity during Shukra periods.
The total outcome is often positive in a
life-defining spiritual way.
Shukra periods cause the native to hold
as firmly as possible to the material identity (lagnesha
function) while simultaneously the function of the L-8 is
explicitly a breaking apart, un-sticking, in-coherence in the native 's psycho-physical self-recognition.
One is forced to assume a higher
viewpoint of the greater cycles of life and in the process one
becomes open to absorption of transformative "tantrik" knowledge
(8).
Vrishabha
governs the experience of sudden, forced
changes as the life-force moves
from one form into the next. Outcome
of rapid-change events such as emergencies, disasters, sudden
death-and-rebirth = very much altered by occupants of
the house and condition of lagnesha
Shukra.
For example,
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Guru or Shukra in 8 indicates
significant material wealth of the spouse.
-
Shukra in swakshetra
Vrishabha is very fortunate for the spouse's
treasury. -
Even the difficulties of
L3-L-6 Guru in 8 are well compensated by
Viparita
Raja Yoga= L-6 in 8. Therefore Guru
in 8 for Thula lagna usually brings prosperity via
the spousal treasury even while the spouse may be
unfaithful to the marriage contract and
relationship with the in-laws is contentious.
-
while occupation by Rahu the
impostor or Ketu the abandoner or drishti of or
occupation by Shani the reducer can show poverty of the
spousal treasury.
-
Rahu, although purported
exalted in Vrishabha, spins the cycle of
destruction-and-rebirth too quickly. The minute one
has some sort of wealth, one destroys it, due to seeking a higher value.
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For
example,
Charles de
Gaulle with Rahu-Vrishabha was notoriously anti-money,
anti-capitalist, and demonstrably proud of his
lifelong penury.
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[By contrast the uchcha Rahu in 11
can bring extraordinary gains of income from taboo
or foreign sources, such as the middle eastern oil
wealth of USA Pres-43 GW Bush.]
Shukra lagnesha =lord of 8th-from-lagna. Thula natives
have lifelong relationship (Shukra) to mysteries and secrets (8).
In the preliminary negotiations
which occur in the astral plane before the native is allowed to
take birth, one is possessed of harmony-seeking, diplomatic
behaviors in the process of defining and stabilizing all of the
highly complex agreements which are required to be in place before
manifestation of the forthcoming fleshly development (1) and vitalizing a physical
human form (1).
Thus this native is a natural negotiator of
the continuing albeit often awkward (6/8) cycles of birth and death,
stability and change, mass and energy, form and content.
Spouse's Family Dealings with in-laws are eased from the natural
adversarial
Kuja-driven situation into more pleasurable
and balanced
relation Speech and values of the spouse are
pleasure-oriented, sensual and sweet. Adversarial conversations
between the partners are extremely rare.
Spouse's Wealth, 1st marriage: The joint assets of marriage
will accumulate on a balanced program, with each spouse contributing
their fair share. Spouse's family wealth originates fromcattle and historic family lands. Sensual
fruits of the landincluding wines and liqueurs,
perfumes, fine foods, lovely oils, and dairy products of
the cattle are often the source of spousal family wealth.
Vrishabha rules the mouth, teeth, and throat. If Shukra
occupies 8, wealth from speeches, music or musical
instruments including the voice.
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Example: the family wealth of Jacqueline Kennedy
O. 's first husband USA Pres-35 John. F Kennedy was developed from
selling liquor. -
Martha
Stewart's spousal capital from the first marriage is indicated by
both L-3+L-6 Guru
Viparita
Raja Yoga = L-6 in 8 + L-4+L-5
YogakarakaShani in
bhava-8. Some of her marital wealth
derived from social conflict (3, 6; attorney) and
some derived from the in-law's property wealth + their
professional education (4, 5 ).
Hidden, confidential information and
secret relationshipsare pleasurable and well-balanced.
Extramarital affairs are easy to conduct and do not disturb the fabric
of married life. Surgeries if needed will enhance bodily alignments
and provide cosmetic benefits.
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Das /
Behari
comment on
Vrishabha = bhava-8:
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"Your spousemay beunsympathetic,
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and
may use the marriage for advancing themselves,
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though at the same time they also advance your goals.
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You respect the energy of nature perhaps more than the idea of the creator of nature."
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Bhava
9 =
9th from Thula lagna =
9th from Thula
Chandra
= 9th from
Thula
navamsha
Budha
rules a natural house = swabhava of neutral
Guru. Budha's
governance is not impeded by Guru.
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Ceremonial Religion; the Temple; Priesthood;
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Guru; Professor; University; -
Wisdom; Father; -
Religious teachers and
dogma, beliefs; -
Divine Law
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Mithuna governs the
teacher-preacher knowledge delivery
roles and capacity for wisdom via world
travel
Thula natives especially like to communicate
(Mithuna)
about ceremonial religions (9) and wisdom teachings esp sacred texts.
They favor a priestly or professorial style (9) of
making reports and announcements (Mithuna) . Theological studies are favored
and publications on philosophical topics will succeed if Budha
is well placed. the native may sound like (Mithuna) a
know-it-all "brainiac" due to a tendency to reverse the proper
forms:
Discourse styles "flipped"
Thula often will substitute a common,
everyday talk style (Mithuna) into their professorial discourse
(9) which can give the impression of trivializing the deeply
held convictions of faith and religious practice.
Thula also suffers the reverse problem
of bringing an expansive philosophical discourse style
(Dhanushya) into their daily life chat with workmates and
neighbors (3) which can make them sound ponderous and egg-heady.
However if properly handled, the
"flipped" communications situation is good for publication (3)
of philosophical (9) writings (3) and professorship (9) in
topical areas of mundane media communications (3), scholarly
studies (9) in sociolinguistics and discourse analysis (3), and
university studies (9) on individual words e.g. etymology (3) and grammatical forms (3) of written and spoken texts (3)
Can be a bit of chameleon, adopting various
belief systems for pragmatic purposes, then moving on to a new set of
beliefs when expedient.
Can mirror the dominant ideology out to the
public very successfully, presuming Budha is competent.
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Das /
Beharicomment on Mithuna = bhava-9:
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"You gain polarizationmental empowerment to
and discriminateabout spiritual matters."
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Das comment = "Gemini is in 9, and Venus is in 9."
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"You are concerned, in a worldly sense, with the comfort of
others. You have money for affluent living. But your
involvement with social services is to gratify your own senses
and to glorify yourself. You will travel widely. "
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Bhava
10=
10th from Thula lagna =
10th from Thula
Chandra
= 10th from
Thula
navamsha
Chandra
rules a natural house = swabhava of neutral
Shani.
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Leadership responsibilities; public reputation and
recognition; -
Ability to determine social law and make decisions that
influence those below one in the social hierarchy. -
Executive
capabilities. -
Regulatory and law-enforcing powers.
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Karkata
governs the public reputation +
one's capacity to accept and fulfill
social leadership responsibilities
Career, Profession, and Regulatory
Roles
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Naturally, whichever bhava is ruled by Chandra the Lord
of tides and flows will have an
estuarial character = sometimes
dry and sometimes flooded.
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the native will hold numerous positions, titles,
responsibilities, and organizational affiliations
throughout life.
-
The Thula native should never fear if a job or rank is
lost; another surge of responsibility will indeed follow
any lost position, similar to the ocean tides. -
Career recognition for one's capacity to govern (to
regulate social environments) is strongest during
periods of Chandra.
Because Chandra is lord of 10th-from-lagna,
Thula natives apply their deepest nurturing feelings to their
social leadership position. One brings a caring and parental approach
to organization governance and positions of social
responsibility.
Mother
Thula lagna natives are often born to
professionally
recognized, working mothers.
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The mother's social-leadership
or professional responsibilities make a deep impression on the child
in one's early years.
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One is raised by such a mother to expect that
one will also serve society in a compassionate, professional,
decision-making capacity, whenever the time (Chandra period) should
arrive.
Thula lagna is known as a "maker of leaders". It is reputedly the most
successful
radix lagna for recognition in
public life. For the Balance lagna, Shani
the Worker becomes Yogakaraka, while Guru the Lord of Abundance rules
mental (3) and physical (6) health. the native is rewarded for effort
(Shani); and punished for excess (Guru). If L-10 Chandra is
well-disposed, there is an emotionally instinctive (Chandra)
inclination to invest effort in leadership roles. In
maturity, the Thula nativeeschews the "easy way" (Guru)
knowing from hard experience that only Shani's methods - delayedgratification, personal discipline, attention to detail- is the only assured path to success.
The highly
fluctuating and impressionable Chandra provides direct, psycho- emotionally
intuitive leadership.
Much depends on Chandra's Nakshatra,
rashi, bhava, and drishti. Also the angle of Shani-Chandra and
Guru-Chandra will significantly shape the leadership
potential.
Example: Mahatma
Gandhi's 5/9 angle of Shani-Chandragave his profound
capacity to accept Austerity in the circumstances of leadership.
Chandra = L-10 in 10 provided the instinctive parental leadership
style. A world leader slowly but inexorably (YogakarakaShani) took his
place in history(Chandra-Shani).
Bhava-10 is about public trust. A
parental sense of responsibility in their leadership
style. Thula lagna is famous for creating strong government,
corporate, and military careers.
Not only is Shani the
Yogakarakafor
Thula lagna but also Chandra the 'parenting planet' is lord of the
bhava of
public trust.
Thula lagna's public presentation has a strongly
emotional appeal. Style is authoritative, parental,
and
asserting seniority; also be patronizing, domineering, or even tyrannical
- depending on highly impressionable Chandra, aspects to bhava-10,
and 10th-from-10th yuvati bhava. It is essential to track Soma's
behavior in D-9 and D-10 to know where the career will go.
Chandra is reflective and absorptive. Public
can project their needs for parenting, security, and
authoritative guidance upon the Thula nativein a leadership role. May
evoke fanatic trust and support when they lead in emotionally
troubled times.
Professional
Success depends on Chandra
Ideally Chandra will be angular and receive
friendly
drishti. But even a poorly placed Chandra will contribute intuition and a
gentle, parental, nurturing attitude in leadership
roles.
Professional reputation
flourishes in specialties of caretaking and schooling.
Thula
enjoys business administration when they have an adequate scope
(Dhanushya, 3) to express their
humanistic views via world travel and
teaching.
Shani being yogakaraka
L-4+L-5, matters related to foundational education
in literacy and numeracy, as well as structured
expressions of individual intelligence such as
writing, will constitute their heaviest
professional burden. Thula are typically great
advocates of education for children.
Management roles
Thula enjoys managing transactions (3) that
contain humanistic, philosophical teachings (Dhanushya) and
collaborating with people
who possess wisdom (Dhanushya, 3).
Of course, much depends upon the lord of the 10th
navamsha as well as any graha occupying Bhava-10 or
10th-from-10th = Bhava-7.
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Das /
Behari comment on Karkata = bhava-10:
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"You generate profound ideas in approaching life's everyday problems.
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Deep insight
and adaptability enable you to function smoothly on many levels.
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You are capable. -
You will probably specialize in something that
helps society.
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An efficient administrator, poet, ruler, or a great saint,
Your stage of soul-development is key. -
If your attachment to carnal passions is not yet over,
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If you are already spiritually advanced,
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Otherwise, an evolved soul under this influence will be immersed in universal consciousness, enjoying the bliss of spirituality.
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This sign in the 10th house makes you a little special, and an interesting person to meet or know."
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Bhava
11 = 11th from Thula lagna =
11th from Thula Chandra= 11th from Thula navamsha
Surya's
governance is
impeded
in the natural house = swabhava of
Ravi's enemy
Shani.
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Goals and achievements; -
social progress movements; -
distributive and associative networks of connection between people, ideas, electrical signals, atoms,
planets, civilizations, generations, -
and anything that can be connected
to anything else.
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Simha
governs the social networks + one's
capacity to set lawful goals and
achieve objectives in a regulated fashion Because
Surya is lord of 11th-from-lagna, Thula
natives have self-focused view of the global marketplace, a
politicized understanding of scientific conceptual systems, and in
large assemblies they tend to assume directive roles.
Goals and
achievements for Thula must reflect the presence of Divine
intelligence, increase personal creativity, call attention to the
Self, and open the heart.
Creative intelligence (Surya) = focused on
gainful relationships in the marketplace. Thula natives are ego
identified with large
networks of associations and independent goal achievement. They
develop strong friendship networksearly in life.
Something about this
native strikes people as "
goal-assisting" or a "
positive
connection". Surya should be well disposed for the connectedness
and profitability of this lordship to give full fruit.
However even a strongly placed Surya will have
to do lifetime battle with the influence of
Shaniover His natural
house. the native 's style of goal-achievement may be at loggerheads
with conservative social practice, and one's method of earning income
will certainly be distinctively independent.
A good deal of effort is expended in developing
connective community relationships, which facilitate greater individual
opportunity for material and spiritual achievement. This work tends to
earn a low salary. Indeed, one often serves on a volunteer basis in
order to advance one's vision of a better, more intelligent world for
all..
When Surya is empowered, the native must earn
through independent means such as consulting, self-owned business,
literary authorship, or manufacturing one's own product.
Generally a
Thula native will be well-known and respected, as well as successful
in building very large connection networks. the native holds leadership position in several networks, particularly the
networks which one has developed around one's own intelligence.
Seeks the company (11) of royals (Simha),
theatricals, politicians, those with a celebrity lifestyle or
some form of personal brilliance. Thula finds one's friends
mainly among the ranks of the very bright and talented
(depending of course on Ravi's character in the nativity). If
Surya occupies 11, one may hold the prestigious center
position within a large network of talented, self-focused,
large-aura persons who hold various creative entitlements in
the society.
The friends are not necessarily all
leaders or holders of socially recognized high title. Rather,
members of the network are distinguished by their remarkable
intelligence in performance art (including certain inspired
forms of teaching), in politics, theatre, games, and
amusements; by their self-entitlement.
One
may become genuinely friendly with one's children, sharing
with the offspring a regal sense of self-entitlement and
its concurrent (for Thula) engagement in social change. One becomes an iconic symbol for a social
progress movement;
promoting one's individual genius and personal power in
order to channel
the force of divine inspiration that drives creative social
change.
International diplomacy A king-maker in the best sense of shining the
light of genius upon each person and commodity in the
social and economic network .
Found often in the "company (11) of kings
(Simha)", Thula networks in elite political
settings and is especially suited to the top ranks of international diplomacy.
Centrality Entitlement Ego
The ideal community networking style = Shani = neutral,
regulated, orderly, procedural, impersonal, austere, all are
equal participants under the law.
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If Surya the brilliant and confident karaka of Truth should become compromised
by unfortunate association, the native may develop a
self-righteous (Ravi)
style of association that is solipsistic, opportunistic,
intolerant, and politicized rather than participatory and
distributive. -
If such a disability develops, it may manifest in a friendship culture of
exaggerated entitlement, in which the only acceptable
behavior of friends, acquaintances, and the elder siblings
is that which directs praise and applause upon the
center-stage native. Marketplace associations may be
stifled by an attention-hungry participant who wishes the
public to see one as a Central Connection.
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Das /
Behari comment on
Simha = bhava-11:
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"you are born to do some special work for society
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You are strongly motivated to
contribute significantly to your people. -
You are not selfish, though you may not necessarily be soft
and kind, either. -
You are a
strict
disciplinarian;
-
You want to make the world a better place to live, a
more unified social
organization,
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Das /
Behari comment on "The Sun is in 11, and the Sun is in Leo."
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"Gives daughters."
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"When the Sun occupies this sign the
missionary spirit is greatly heightened.
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You can forge strong bonds of
friendship with a few persons, but you are
generally reserved, with a very exclusive
sense of individuality.
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You become interested in life
sciences;
-
your fascination with occultism
will also be deep and genuine.
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As an executive officer,
political missionary, or eminent philosopher, you
can make an imprint wherever you go.
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Your personal life, however, is full
of deprivations.
-
You are unhappy with your children, and
often suffer from serious strain on your nerves.
"
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Das/
Behari comment on
"The Sun is in Leo, and Libra is in 1." |
- "This placement gives good fortune and a full span of
life. "
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Bhava
12 = 12th from Thula lagna =
12th from Thula Chandra= 12th from Thula navamsha
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Kanya
governs the character of reflective,
imaginative knowledge + one's capacity to travel the
bridge
between worlds of material and spiritual life
Because Budha = L-9+L-12 from-lagna, Thula
natives especially like to communicate
about ritual religion and moral teachings (9) and to articulate matters of psycho-intuitive
knowledge, the imagination, dream-worlds, and the subconscious terrain (12).
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Enemies of the marriage, always
indicated by the L-12 and graha within vyaya bhava, tend to be
gender-neutral conversationalists and writers with articulate, analytical,
mentally hyperactive or very categorical personalities.
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A quick study;
swift and accurate psychological profiling of personalities;
can almost "hear" the interior mental narrative of others
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Budha grants a mentalized and conversational approach to the cosmic matters of
private
imagination, foreign sojourns, and meditation.
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Easy travels.Native does not need
as much
sleep as peers.
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As a downside, there
is little rest in this life.
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the native is perpetually busy
in the mental, narrative function and may struggle to
claim access to deep sanctuary of non-verbal reflection and prayer.
A capable instructor and
explainer of the phenomena of subconscious life,
although the mentality is highly activated : majority of the attention is
focused on surface consciousness.
For this reason:
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an excellent
position for negotiators and diplomats (Jimmy
Carter ,
Hillary
Clinton) who are able to speedily, verbally, assure and assuage
the unacknowledged psychological resistance which people often
bring into controversial or adversarial situations.
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Das /
Behari:
says of Kanya = bhava-12:
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"You feel a sense of responsibility which affects your every day life.
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You would rather act than talk about virtues.
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You would like to
spread goodwill amongst
all."
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