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Shri Shri Ganapati

Rashi Lagna - Graha


Chandra

in Vrischika Rashi


Moon in Scorpio

Directory of Chandra Pages

Public Figures

Janma rashi = Vrischika


Chandra in Vishaka

ruled by guiding Guru

  • dramatist Warren Beatty

  • chemist, discoverer of polonium and radiumMarie Sklodowska Curie


Chandra in Anuradha = "hard bargains"

ruled by strictly structured Shani

  • Mohamed Reza Pahlavi, Shah of Iran - + Rahu

  • UK King Henry VIII (b.1491) = 6 marriage alliances, untold numbers of political alliances

  • Mrs. Eleanor Roosevelt (philanthropist, ambassador, social welfare activist)

  • philanthropist Melinda French Gates

  • philanthropist Warren Buffet

  • Baba Ram Dass

  • Ivana Trump in lagna = 4 marriage alliances

  • USA-Pres 38 Gerald Ford agreed to take USA Pres job - under pressure

  • Gov. Mass, presidential candidate Mitt Romney

  • USA Sen Bobby Kennedy

  • Mrs. Joan Bennett Kennedy (Teddy Kennedy wife #1)

  • Mrs. Victoria Gifford Kennedy (Teddy Kennedy wife #2)

  • Saddam Hussein (Iraq)

  • Rachel Carson, ecology scientist author "Silent Spring"

  • Michel Gauquelin (research astrologer, tropical tradition)


Chandra in Jyestha

seniority = I know better than you

ruled by bossy Budha

Vrischika Chandra = emotional need to stay in control

  • needs a degree of secrecy and hidden psychological tension in sexual relationships

  • needs to pursue the mysterious, the forbidden and the unknown

    • Marie Sklodowska Curie

  • matching-energy for shocking revelations, esp in Vishaka nakshatra

  • often emotionally traumatized in childhood

  • the mother may be exceptionally invasive, controlling and prone to live in a state of constant emotional emergency

  • may be a "crisis junkie" = wants things to be a in state of upheaval, disaster, threat to life, and will create an emergency even when there is none, in order to feel needed emotionally

  • at the highest levels of consciousness, may be a tantrik yogi and healing facilitator of intentional cycles of self-destruction and rebirth

  • Parental, sensitive and intuitive when in the presence of death.

  • Can be a deeply healing figure at times of catastrophic change.


Emotional reactivity and a pattern of home-based (Chandra) troubles (Shani) with regard to:

  • the homeland, patria (Chandra) = Albert Einstein

  • parenting - the native may feel forced (Kuja) into the parent role (Chandra) by a luxury-loving (Vrishabha) spouse = Mrs. Eleanor Roosevelt

  • agents whose understanding of religion is limited to ethnic customary practices (especially in religion = Vrischika 12th from Dhanushya) = Baba Ram Dass

  • with real-estate holdings = Donald Trump

  • the defense of the land and its sovereign customs = Henry VIII

  • with the parents and caretakers = Oprah Winfrey

  • with mothers, esp one's own mother and the mother of one's children = Tiger Woods (Elin Nordegren)

  • For a male, the parenting style of the first spouse may be difficult to accept, and a second occult relationship with another mother may form. Thomas Jefferson (Sally Hemmings)


Chandra in Vrischika, as lord of 9th-from-swakshetra, is inherently auspicious for priesthood, professorship, and matters of the bridges from human to divine which are based in various temples of knowledge (universities, houses of worship, centers of religious inquiry).

Some Jyotisha authorities opine that Chandra can never be truly neechcha. This claim seems quite reasonable given Vrischika Chandra's auspicious angular relationship to the all-good natural dharma bhava.

However it is Chandra's oppression by Lord Mangala which excites the passion for conquest that is probably the culprit in the associated neechcha behaviors of Soma in the upsetting 8th rashi.

"Bred for exploration of hidden truths." This person wants to hunt and needs to hunt. When this native looks in the mirror, s/he sees a Shaman-Hunter,a giver of oracular knowledge, a perceiver of the unseen, a skilled tracker and successful gain of quarry.


Vrischika Moon watches the signs: observing subtle sights and sounds of its prey until motives and patterns of movement are revealed. Their fundamental drive is to detect the previously unseen. All psychological disciplines are attractive to them. Their actual success (or not) in finding new information, detecting new patterns, intuiting new knowledge - depends on the health of Kuja.

  • Traditionally, Soma is fallen in Scorpio, but rarely is the Soma-Vrischika person lacking emotional luster.

  • There is some tendency toward emotional implosion, which on the surface looks like psycho-drama or taking oneself rather too seriously.

  • However in general these folks are gifted healers, excellent students of human nature, and sharp observers.

Natives thrive in intuitive professions like forensic science, police work, espionage or homeopathy! They necessarily possess an empathy for the criminal agent may indicate why Chandra is considered fallen here, in the tantric zone of Scorpio.

But in terms of emotional capability for feeling and intuiting, there is no deficiency whatsoever. Vrischika Moon gives an extreme psychic perceptiveness which certainly is valuable - but of course is must be correctly deployed to show its brilliance.


If Kuja is swakshetra(in Mesha, Vrischika) or uchcha (Makara) the hunt will be vigorous and typically successful. Kuja's two signs Mesha and Vrischika give peak masculine achievement in war and the hunt; as hero and provider. In Makara rashi, Kuja is enormously restrained by Shani but Kuja gives superb results, under Shani's discipline, in government, administration, and commerce.


Behari says re: neechcha Chandra in yuvati bhava:

  • "Materialism, ego, and the desire for pleasure are so accentuated that you may become unfit for civilized society.

  • there is a possibility that your mental balance may be disturbed."


Is there a Vrischika-Soma person in your life? Be sure to acknowledge their intuitive gifts. Do not downplay the power of their hunter's sixth sense. Rather, be amazed. They can dis-cover hidden money, a lost person, a forgotten memory, and the season's best sale on sports gear.

Vrischika-Chandra penetrates into your inner emotional needs. True this can be dangerous information. However, with psychic boundaries in place, their powers of laser-sharp insight may healfears. Avoid punishing their habit of mentioning some rather unflattering psychological observations.

What they say is true, even if it hurts. Vrischika-Chandra can be profound healers once their intuitive but rather prickly way of intuitive discovery is accepted by their companions.

Contractual Partnerships and Trusts = 7th-from-Vrischika Chandra = Vrishabha

7th from Vrischika-Chandra = Vrishabha.

  • The partner = "treasures and pleasures".

Parenting = Chandra-Vrischika

Sade Sati Chandra-Vrischika tends to bond emotionally in a more hidden, mysterious or occult style. It is a shrewd emotional placement which hides most of its power behind a placid, even passive, façade. Like a water-snake resting in the rushes, Chandra-Vrischika is often quite ingenuous on the surface. However when stimulated to pursue emotional nutrient, Soma has a penetrating and controlling, goal-directed psychological style that is difficult to out-maneuver.

In competitions and challenges, the Mangala driven impulsive force of Chandra-Vrischika may win by fair means or foul – but whatever sort of subterfuge might be required, it will win. It is not an ethical Moon; not deeply bound by local custom and its loyalties may shape-shift according to circumstance. In truth the native is self-defining; yet part of Chandra'strategy for getting included, held, and nurtured is to appear to be passively integrated with the overall environment until its security-protective object (the mother, the lover, the caregiver, the shelter, the fortress ) is within reach. Vrischika-Chandra spends a good deal of time in camouflage, pretending to be involved with one thing while secretly being or hoping to be involved with another. This one is rarely transparent in motive. Its outcome may be quite successful but the method securing emotional sustenance is secretive and occult.

Therefore for Vrischika-Chandra nativities during Sade-Sati, it can be especially challenging to reach the essential moment of honest decision. Honesty and directness are traits of the simple-minded warrior Mesha, not of the devious and shrewd investigator Vrischika. When Chandra occupies the neechchamsha, one holds (Chandra) on to the habitual camouflage, hoping to sustain the appearance of passive integration with one's conventional environment, and hoping to sustain the subterranean scheme of hidden resources as well. Eventually however Shani's pressure becomes so relentless and so inescapable that the native capitulates.

In Vrischika, lord Shanaicarya seems particularly destructive because He utilizes the sudden, forced, often shocking (esp in Vishaka) narrative of Vrischika in order to execute His payback agenda. Shani feels threatened in a rashi of Mangala and His actions may become more devious here than usual.

Difficult Angles:

  • 12th-from Vrischika-Chandra = Thula = (union, promises)

  • 6th-from Vrischika-Chandra = Mesha

during Vimshottari periods of Chandra, the Thula-related agenda creates a nutrient drain (12th-from) upon the emotional vitality

Energy-drainers = emotional losses and erosion of identity + vital life-force power =

via

  • marriage equity, negotiation and bargaining, discussion of relationships, counseling, professional advising, making deals, crafting alliances

  • whichever bhava = 12th-from-Chandra will cause emotional exhaustion

Example:

  • Tiger Woods experienced a catastrophic and public loss of identity consequent to loss of investment in the marriage promise, during L-2 (divorce) Shukra period. Shukra = L-12 from Chandra


6th-from Vrischika = disagreement-distrust-dispute-divorce = ">Mesha

  • Vrischika-Chandra has conflict with sexual and athletic competitors.

  • Dislikes direct confrontation (Mesha) and hates the sight of blood (Mesha)

    • can use subversion or psychological manipulation-distraction to advantage.

  • In the quest for dominance and control, may suffer intense jealousy and rage. [neechcha]

Badhaka angle for a Sthira rashi = 9th from Vrischika-Chandra = Karkata = badhesha = Chandra

Letter to a client who feared the evil consequences of fallen Moon in sahaja bhava.

Q: Fallen Moon in the 3rd house should be a serious problem. Why?

A: Moon is the seat of emotion (in the grand sense of emotion that includes all feelings, reactions, hopes, dreams, expectations, aspirations, etc.)and thus Moon hugely influences our perceptions. Our reality is created by our perceptions. So, when this HUGE astrological influence, the Moon, occupies Scorpio, Moon is dominated and controlled by the lord of Scorpio, who is Mars. Mars regulates the reptile brain - our fight or flight response. They say the reptile brain doesn't solve problems, it attacks them. :)

Imagine the constraint imposed by Kuja, upon our poor perceptive Moon. The person has limited permission to just "be"and has to "do" almost constantly. Of course, Moon in Scorpio helps a productive, materially-oriented career tremendously. And, it can be a useful placement for a surgeon, investigative journalist, or anyone who professionally digs into hidden causes, into motivesand secret roots of things... but these folks, while often serving society usefully in distinguished careers, may not have much inner peace at all.


That's why, from an astrological-philosophical value system that puts peace, balance, meditative awareness, consciousness, relaxed enjoyment etc. at the top of the scale, Moon in Scorpio is somewhat problematic - basically, it predisposes the person to a reactive style, tends toward unconscious selfishness/ego attachment, making others conform to one's expectations, etc. Of course these are very broad generalizations but it's possible to see why the Jyotisha value system would evaluate a very creative, productive, competitive, reactive, alpha type of emotional disposition as being counterproductive to the meditative quest for peace and satisfaction that the opposite "exalted" Moon in Taurus is likely to provide.

But here in the west where career is very important and we are not generally raised to consider a balanced peace to be very important, Moon in Scorpio contributes to some remarkable public success!

Moon being in the 3rd house heightens the emotional power of your mental processes. It gives excellent business intuition, great sensitivity to the thoughts and needs of others in small group undertakings. Basically all of modern business is conducted in meetings, and you are very "on" in most meetings/conferences/seminars/phone calls/video conferences etc. because your psycho-emotional perception machine turns on "high" in the region of third-house matters. Third Domain rules younger siblings and/or the sibling group as a whole. In your case it is the sibling group as a whole because your Moon happens to be the 11th lord that rules older siblings too.

From early sibling communication/ego-definition patterns we learn to define ourselves in a group. As adults we use those sibling-group strategies overand over again. You'll find that in work teams of 3-7 people, the team members you work with most closely will always assume a role formerly held by your siblings. We just recreate those sibling patterns overand over indefinitely!


Having been born with the Vrischika Chandra, you have the advantage of a powerful early, deep, intense psycho-emotional relationship with a sibling that allowed you to hone your perceptual skills very finely.

This is later a huge advantage in business team-work, any form of communication intuitive especially but also all the external forms like corporate communications, conducting meetings, organizing people into productive teams etc. You quickly get a strong "hit" on what the individual members really want and can always turn a profit (11th house power) from your group communications.

Now, that all sounds good and it *is*! The traditional Scorpio-Moon-3rd-house problems emerge ONLY with the lower consciousness type of person (who are unfortunately form the majority).

Problems can arise for Scorpio Moon in third house when, lacking awareness of the effect of their actions on others, the person inadvertently understands that their natural gift for profiting from their shrewd, sensitive judgment of others' true motives = A mandate to exploit others.

The re is a default tendency to prefer materially gainful relationships to spiritually nourishing relationships; all of which works great for career development but tends to make the person sad and regretful after retirement. It is particularly a poor prognosis for deathbed regret.


The reason I so casually mentioned on your tape "oh, and usually that's a problem" without developing my description of the dire problems of a Scorpio Moon is that your rashi chart has a very effective correction of the default condition.

This correction is your very auspicious Jupiter in Cancer in the 11th Domain - a magnificent planet that brings wealth, wisdom, grace, good public relations, generosity, humor, and beautiful children.

Jupiter in Cancer in the 11th house has an excellent, improving effect on the otherwise tending-toward-exploitive/manipulative/greedy Moon.

This marvelous Jupiter indicates you have been active in charitable giving for many lifetimes, motivated by generosity and compassion not just "do-gooding".

Also in the current life, the more involvement you are able to have with the worldwide undertaking of feeding the poor, the more benefits, spiritual and material, will continue to come your way.


Rather a long answer ... but one you have been patiently waiting for. Moon in Scorpio is normally a bad thing emotionally because it disturbs inner peace. In the third house, it pollutes communications when natural instinct to plumb human motivation can be misused to generate personal profit. But in your case, these errors are largely eliminated by a warm and generous Jupiter. Overall you are left with the sensitivity, profitability, and group communications skill that the third house connotes, and due to your authentic concern for the welfare of others you leave the traditional troubles behind.

Destructive Emotions: How Can We Overcome Them? A Scientific Dialogue with the Dalai Lama narrated by Daniel Goleman, foreword by the Dalai Lama; p.159

"In Tibetan there is no word for "emotion."

Bearing in mind that the fundamental goal of Buddhist practice is the achievement of nirvana, when you study the mind what you're really concerned with is what specific mental states impede the accomplishment of that end.

That's what the six primary states and twenty derivative states (the unwholesome mental factors) all have in common. Some are emotions and some are not, but it doesn't really matter.

  • What's important is they all share that common factor of being impediments.

In contrast, modern psychology does not have the aim of nirvana. My conjecture, in terms of trying to understand why the West places such a strong emphasis on identifying emotion, is that, going back to the Enlightenment, even as far back as Aquinas, there is an enormous priority placed on reason and intelligence.

  • What can impede reason? Emotion.

You have two categories that are set in opposition to each other. The fact that there is a specific term for emotion in Western thought does not necessarily imply that there was a special emphasis placed on understanding the nature of emotion.

Perhaps initially the motive for labeling something as emotion was to enhance reason by identifying something that is unreasonable, something that is irrational. "

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