Chandra in Guru-ruled Meena, as lord of 5th-from-itself, is inherently auspicious for matters of politics and theatre, gaming and speculation, creative intelligence, literature and performance arts, and most of all children.

Nurtures a safe, creative space for the children.

Homecraft such as sewing and weaving takes a fashionable style.

Meena-Chandra may find that whatever difficulties come into one's path, the transcendent enjoyment of children will restore awareness of the presence of the divine.

Like Pushan the Ferryman, Meena-Chandra is constantly traveling between two worlds:

• the adult world + the child world,

• the material-social present-time world + the astral spirit-guide world,

• inner intuitive dream world + the outer time-space work world.

One possesses a natural affinity for children, all forms of teaching, and transactions which occur upon the bridge between the astral world and the material world.

• A social recognized teaching profession may be indicated if Guru also rules the 10th navamsha.

As lord of the natural 12th house, Soma is "Bred for imagination." Meena-Chandra ponders the depth and breadth of the cosmos, searching for the "conduits"= conduction routes of Pushan the cowherd, which connect one field of meaning to the next. Meena is a sign of oceans, dolphins, universes, children, symbols, and dreams. It is the land of the astral bridge, the interstitial or liminal realities of dreams and illusions, a world of swirling images and the pathways between them.

When this native looks in the mirror, s/he sees a Visionary, a dream reader, an energy gauge, broad knower and commenter-upon vast movements in history and civilization.

Soma-Meena = enchanted by children and spirits; magnetically attracts them; speaks for them. These natives channel a vast intuitive creativity. Yet the results may manifest solely on the astral plane, invisible to most humans. They neither seek nor decline the teaching role for which their wisdom suits them.

The fundamental emotional urge is to deepen one's understanding of the infinitely complex and subtle relationships between all beings. One's actual success (or not) in absorbing the knowledge and providing inspirational or intuitive guidance to others, depends on the vitality of Guru.

If Guru = swakshetra (Dhanushya, Meena) or uchchamsha (Karkata) Meena-Chandra = highly gifted with intuitive intelligence. One displays a breadth of knowledge in wide-cast fields such as economics, philosophy, and history.

• In Dhanusha, Guru occupies 10th-from-Chandra, highly auspicious for careers in visionary science, research professorships, religious leadership.

• In Karkata, Guru casts drishti upon Soma, favorable for all matters of children, self-expression, speculation, and performance arts.

In Meena, brilliant intuition and very fertile, but rashi lagna here determines whether there is material distinction or not.

Women with Meena Chandra

Emotionally philosophical and socially inclusive, as are their mothers.

Lower body is generally wider of build; flesh-body becomes 'pear shape' in maturity. Reflective in their habits. Emotionally wise but generally rather quiet preferring a meditative awareness to intervention in the life choices of others. A teacher to their children.

Meena-Chandra ladies may prefer a lifestyle that supports their habit of sanctuary-seeking retreat. She feels a need for self-enclosure via invisibility. The need is often met by means of social disappearance including long wanders in her imagination or physically in foreign lands.

Their partners are distinguished by critical, logical, narrative and argumentative Budha-ruled Kanya features, both social and physical. The partner no matter their other traits wants to discuss and debate, criticize and complain. Guru and Budha do not tolerate each other well thus relationships particularly marriage may be more stressful than supportive for the Meena female. However, her Kanya partner benefits from her wise counsel.

Partner is service-oriented and often suffers from health problems, including possible issues with malnutrition, digestive conflict, and substance addictions. Marriage can be quite difficult because the partner's energy is taken by health concerns, financial worries, and interpersonal conflicts. marriage. There is little extra energy available to support and develop the partnership. The partner may hail from a lower social class, or serve the needs of the sick, polluted, or poor.

If you have a Meena-Soma person in your life, honor their knowledge of past, present, and future. History really does repeat itself. Listen to their long stories; allow them to interpret your dreams.

Chandra-Meena folk know you; they know all humankind. They utilize guidance from life forms which others might not be able to access; they have psychic and spiritual "trail-guide" information which others might not recognize or value.

They can show you the way out of suffering, by compassionately pointing out the errors of the past, the suffering of the present, and wisdom of your future. Don't punish their apparent indecisiveness.

Chandra-Meena folk = sensing subtle patterns in the great psychic ocean which surrounds us (the astral plane) - give them time. Children will be especially sensitive to psycho-emotional fluctuations; they require protection from hard-shelled predators.

Parents and bosses may seem vague and indefinite; give them time, too, to find the most compassionate way. The time you spend waiting for Meena-Soma wisdom is a valuable spiritual investment.

• Meena Chandra lagna + Moon in a navamsha of Shani = psycho-spiritual guidance roles re: institutional and large-corporation governance

  • Bill Gates, Steve Jobs, Pres France 1944-1946; 1959-1969 Gen. Charles de Gaulle, Nicolas Sarkozy, B. P. Lama,

  Meena Chandra lagna + Moon in a navamsha of Guru = psycho-spiritual guidance roles re: philosophy and humanitarian teaching-preaching

  • philosopher Simone de Beauvoir

  Meena Chandra lagna + Moon in a navamsha of Budha = psycho-spiritual guidance roles in a "teamwork" setting: administrative management, short-term travel, commerce, and media communications

  • Rabindranath Tagore, Angelina Jolie, Huey Kingfish Long , Luciano Pavarotti

Remarkably auspicious placement for spiritual guidance and poetic creativity = 9th-from-swakshetra [Karkata].

Intuition, clairsentience, meditative awareness, and divinatory perceptions are opened.

Often a world-wanderer. Comfortable in the company of philosophers and priests. Shelters many travellers.

Chandra-Meena's parenting style = guidance, suggestion, cultivation of the children's imagination, offering children the gift of privacy, the gift of meditation, the gift of prayer and communion with the spirits.

Children are shown the visionary bridge between the worlds of material life and the worlds of the ancestors, the path to self-realization, and the reality of spirit.

Chandra-Meena parents want above all "self-realized" and intuitive children who understand the nature of their own imaginative spiritual pathway

5th-from-Chandra = Karkata

• Family, stability, and security = important.

• Child of the Meena-Chandra parent has a strong sense of place + strong bond with the parents.

• Parents, care-takers, schoolteachers, and property-owners are in general beneficial for this child.

6th-from Meena = disagreement-distrust-dispute-divorce = SimhaSimha

• Meena-Chandra = imaginative, clairvoyant beings

• tend to have emotional disappointment with an insensitive, self-centered father and father-figures,

• dislikes politics and politicians

• dislikes center-stage entitlements (Simha)but has wisdom to impart

• 6th-from angle to Simha yields lifelong ego-conflicts with father-king-"self-entitled" male figures

Meena-Chandra are imaginative, clairvoyant beings who tend to suffer built-in emotional disappointment with an insensitive father and father-figures, yielding lifelong ego-conflicts as a result .

Having been disappointed or annoyed by male-ego excesses early in life, one may feel a deep distaste for things Simha = celebrity, royalty, politics, theatre, genius, personal brilliance - feeling that one prefers to live a quiet life.

Nevertheless karma brings one into awkward 6/8 karmic battle with these behaviors.

One will eventually coordinate the conflict and take one's place in center stage (particularly if there are graha in Simha's bhava) because Guru lord of Chandra is a friendly mate of Surya.

• Bill Gates = male ego, politicians

• Angelina Jolie = Father , celebrities

• reformist Huey "Kingfish" Long

• Father, father-figure, family head,

• male ego, egoism in general

• politicians, kings and royal entitlements, creative intelligence, genius

• celebrity or glamorous persons, limelight, theatre, fashion

• creative directorship, authorship, unique personality, egocentrism, hub of the wheel

• speculative finance, stock market

• entertainment and games

emotional core is oriented to meditation, spiritual guidance, and deep retreat into the inner worlds of imagination and prayer. Shukra's periods tend to generate surprise relationships which cause significant upheaval to the emotional identity.

20-year long Vimshottari periods of Shukra = conditions of sudden emotional identity change induced by secret sweets (including alcohol and intimate relationships) marriage and alliances, contracts and expectations of promise-fulfillment,, women, beauty, music, arts and design, seeking harmony.

A surprise relationship emerges causing destruction and rebirth of the emotional core.

Details of the circumstances of the catastrophic change are indicated by the rashi and bhava of Shukra.

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• if Shukra occupies 9 conditions of catastrophic change will include religious experience and world travel;

• Shukra in 1 conditions will include the fleshly body constitution and appearance Angelina Jolie;

• Shukra in 6 conditions will include significant substance abuse (usually alcohol) and broken promise in alliance

For Thula and Meena lagna, Shukra = also L-8 from lagna - therefore periods of Shukra are doubly catastrophic for Thula and Meena lagna + Thula Moon or Meena Moon.

• Budha = badhesha

• Guru = Meena-pati = sees Budha as an enemy

• Vimshottari dasha periods of Budha = particularly full of obstructions (badha) for Meena-Chandra.

  • (Thus Chandra in Revati may have a difficult time in the early childhood years.)

Perhaps the most difficult of the 12 marriage angles, 7th from Meena-Chandra = Kanya. The partner = "disagreement and criticism" = can't be pleased".

The partner often develops health problems (Kanya). The disease condition is not always obvious at the time of marriage ceremony, but often the condition is indeed known to both parties and they accept this reality.

• the first wife of mystical fiction writer Hermann Hesse hailed from the Bernouli family of distinguished mathematicians who were masters of logical argumentation (Kanya). She suffered slightly from mental illness at the onset of their marriage, then increasingly s toward the end of marriage when she endured a severe breakdown. Interestingly, once the karma of the first marriage was completed, she recovered her senses. Furthermore, neither of Hesse's two subsequent wives were beset by illness.

Meena = a shepherd-guide-healer (Pazu-pati) and Meena will try to correct the spousal imbalance by "showing the Way". However often the unhealthy condition is deeply karmic in nature and acceptance of the partner's disease is ultimately required.

Any graha in Kanya rashi will add focus to Kanya's inherent lack of equability.

For example, uchcha Budha may indicate high craft in logical (Budha) argumentativeness and computation (attorneys, mathematicians, financiers) while neechcha Shukra might indicate private (12) relationships with women (Shukra) which are adversarial (12th from 7th) to marriage.

Kanya's ruler Lord Budha is a very impressionable graha; therefore the disposition of Budha must be known before drawing any conclusions about the nature of Chandra-Meena's alliances.

One positive expression of 7th-from-Meena-Chandra = Kanya's affiliation with professional medicine. The Meena-Chandra native who partners with a physician, pharmacist, maker of medicaments, curadera, or other medical practitioner may have better results.

another favorable professional outcome can be partner = expert in argumentation in sociology of poverty and class conflict, medical treatments, epidemiology and disease vectors, matters of military strategy, usury, loans, chief accountant, litigation or criminal attorney, pharmaceutical technology, toxicology or pollution science.

Kanya's out-of-balance condition can manifest inherent disharmony at several levels:

• physical illness = such as digestive-intestinal disorder (Kanya) or Vishuddha chakra disease = voice-hand-arm-shoulder-lung (Budha) . Also, infections, drug-alcohol addictions, diseases of environmental toxicity such as servitude in unclean or polluted places.

• social illness = "can't be pleased", petulant, complaining, vindictive criticizing and other relationship-sabotage, criminal and adversarial behaviors, anti-social narratives, imbalanced dominant-subordinate relationships; chronic servitude or slavery, rejection of diplomatic solutions, unwillingness to accept settlements, litigiousness (threatening to fight with lawsuits) inability to keep promises = infidelity, lying, repeating cycles of marriage-divorce, eexploitive behaviors, domestic violence, generational poverty; multiple partners, displeased with all of them

• mental illness = such as chronic blaming, argumentativeness, excessively submissive or excessively dominating inner narratives, paranoia, oppositional-defiant syndrome, bi-polar and related disorders, fear of balanced mental state, narcissistic anxiety(lack of empathy for others) chronic self-disruption

• emotional illness = such as victim-mind, chronic distrustfulness,, self-humiliation, fear of balance, fear of agreements, expectant need to be exploited or dehumanized, chronic self-invalidation

• spiritual illness = such as inability to accept any proposed set of spiritual principles, chronic atheism, rejection of cooperative agreement with divine presence, refusal to balance the mind, incapacity to meditate

Examples:

• Catherine Zeta-Jones = her husband (dramatist-producer) Michael Douglas developed advanced "Vishuddha" disease = throat cancer within their first decade of marriage.

• Michael Douglas (dramatist, producer) = his 2nd wife Catherine Zeta-Jones entered the marriage with the "bi-polar" brain-behavioral condition, and this imbalance manifested with increasing visibility at times of stress (esp when her husband's physical health began to fail).

• Dennis Hopper, a dramatist and artistic painter, suffered through five troublesome marriages with wrong-doing women (according to him). He claimed in court that his 5th wife had stolen (Kanya, crime) a collection of his paintings worth USD_millions.

Two of the most awkward items for the Meena-Chandra person are

Rishabha-related wealth-hoarding (although the idea-3 of wealth banked is attractive, the job of collecting is mentalized-3 not sensualized adequately enough to maintain the attention) and Thula-related (8) tasks such as maintaining relationship balance via adjustability and constant renegotiation of agreements. Meena does not naturally devote too much attention to relationships because 8 is apprehended as being a constantly changing cycle of death and rebirth. The emotional orientation toward human-to-human relationships = sudden changes and abrupt endings with great rebirths. Meena does very well however in the field of unmediated contact with the Divine via clairsentient, reflective, and imaginative prayer.

Generally this Shukra-imbalance is true for any man with a Meena-Chandra, although the nature of the tasks will vary with the placement of Shukra.