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Spiritual Figures

Jiddu Krishnamurti

1895-1986

  • Proposed Theosophical World Teacher

  • Abdicant

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Jiddu Krishnamurti circa 1920 Jiddu Krishnamurti Radix Navamsha charts - Barbara Pijan Lama Jyotisha

Krishnamurti's speech

disbanding the Order of the Star which had been created to support him as Theosophical World Teacher,

(Ommen, Holland, August 2, 1929)

"I maintain that truth is a pathless land,

  • and you cannot approach it by any path whatsoever, by any religion, by any sect.

That is my point of view, and I adhere to that absolutely and unconditionally.

Truth, being limitless, unconditioned, unapproachable by any path whatsoever, cannot be organized;

  • nor should any organization be formed to lead or coerce people along a particular path."

"You may remember the story of how the devil and a friend of his were walking down the street,

when they saw ahead of them a man stoop down and pick up something from the ground, look at it, and put it away in his pocket.

The friend said to the devil, "What did that man pick up?"

"He picked up a piece of the truth," said the devil.

"That is a very bad business for you, then," said his friend.

"Oh, not at all," the devil replied, "I am going to help him organize it."

"Beauty is complete order.

But most of us have not that sense of beauty in our lives.

We may be great artists, great painters, expert in various things, but in our own daily life, with all the anxieties and miseries, we live, unfortunately, a very disordered life.

It is a fact.

You may a great scientist, you may be a great expert in a subject, but you have your own problems, struggles, pain, anxieties and the rest of it.

We are asking, is it possible to live in complete order within, not impose discipline, control, but to inquire into the nature of this disorder, what are the causes, and to dispel, move away, wash away the cause.

Then there is a living order in the universe. "

"Pain itself destroys pain.

Suffering itself frees man from suffering."

Distinctive Features of the Nativity
Ketu in bhava 8 = Rahu in bhava 2
  • Ambivalence (Ketu) toward occult knowledge and hidden resources yet unrestricted access to those mysteries

  • Desire (Rahu) to be recognized as a holder of treasuries of wealth or knowledge
Rahu in bhava-2

Rahu in Kumbha rashi = generally auspicious because Rahu the Risk-taker is co-ruler of Kumbha

  • = self-elevation from the original social station at birth via the power of voice, face, speech, treasuries of collected knowledge and stored wealth, ability to utilize and project precious lineage values.
  • During Rahu periods, Rahu in 2 typically takes a great leap upward into a higher station of acquired or re-acquired (remembered) treasures of knowledge and wealth.
  • One attempts to rejoin an ancient knowledge lineage from which one was earlier ejected.
  • There is also usually something exotic or inappropriate in the family history(perhaps an illegitimate birth, perhaps several generations back) which alters the conventional flow of lineage knowledge, providing both opportunity for advancement and disruption of secure transmission in the genetic line.

Auspicious "mark of success" = mutual drishti Rahu-Guru

Rahu = voice, speech, face, hair, knowledge = drishti to Guru + Shukra + Mangala +Ketu + Shani
Viparita Raja Yoga : Harsha = L-12 in bhava-6

When L-12 goes into the house of argumentation, conflict, victims and the underclass, then one loses one's ability to negotiate conflicts. There may follow some desperate actions which are perceived to be "options of last resort" in order to "solve the problem" of the impending loss of personal identity, caused (it is perceived) by enemies, by disease, or by debt.

Thus the opportunity for unintended criminal consequences of rather confused (12) actions, those actions being ultimately manipulated by the spirits on the astral plane (mainly ancestor spirits) who speak in the dream voice.

If L-12 is an aggressive graha, the result could be violent. But generally the result is somewhat diffused.

E.g.,

  • for Richard Nixon+ L-12 in 6 = Chandra. Nixon had lifelong emotional problems with suspiciousness and feeling victimized, which got the better of him during the Watergate break-in.

  • For Krishnamurti+ L-12 in 6 = Guru. Krishnamurti distrusted (6) religious organizations (Guru), and he fended off the threat of being dissolved into their agenda by breaking his promise to lead the group with any status other than "simple human".

6th-from-Rahu + 12th-from-Ketu = yuvati bhava
  • lord of 6th-from-Rahu-in-2 = Mula Chandra in 12 = 6th-from-7th. No graha in bhava-7.

  • L-6 in 6th-from-6th generally cancels the worst effects of the maha-dushtamsha. Mula Chandra in particular is nonchalant about human relationships, being rather more concerned with matters of the galactic sun from which they came and to which they shall soon return.

  • Krishnamurti never married, so he never needed to prevent, control, or negotiate the sharing of his personal wealth (Rahu-2).

  • L-7 Chandra in 12 accepting drishti from Chandra's lord permissive Guru in Mithuna (sexuality) with Shukra-Mithuna suggests a series of private, bedroom-based relationships that carried no public-status connotations. Whatever consorts he had, they valued their privacy as much as he did.

  • It could be said that Krishnamurti broke a few contracts (7), especially the purported agreements that were made on his behalf to promote him as a world teacher of colossal proportions. He didn't follow through on any of those grandiose promises; but those deals were made for him when he was young, and as soon as he was old enough to understand what was expected of him, he quashed the whole charade.

  • Overall, despite yuvati bhava's inauspicious relationship to the Nodes, Krishnamurti's marriage situation is neutral and non-problematic, due to L-7 Chandra carrying most of the alliance energy into the dissolving vyaya bhava, from whence it stays behind closed doors.

Vimshottari Dasha Narrative

Ketu Mahadasha

born 1895

  • Chandra in Mula = born into a period of cosmic-vision Ketu-Kumbha

  • Ketu in 8 = easy entrance through the veil surrounding the mysteries

  • Surya-4 uchchamsha signifies birth into the royal or noble class (Surya-Mesha) of one's own land (4). Cf. Queen Eliz-2

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Shukra Mahadasha

age 5-25

Dec- 1910, "At the Feet of the Master," written when Krishnamurti was only 16 and promoted as his own work. As commentators have noted, a sixteen year old not well accustomed to using English could hardly have produced such a masterpiece of succinct wisdom and mature advice. Clearly it was written by an adult with a goal in mind. Nevertheless it sold fabulously under his name, and the book was considered a cornerstone scripture of the Theosophical movement.

Jan-1911, Teenage Krishnamurti, till now protected by his family and his handlers, is appointed leader of the Order of the Star in the East by the institutional leadership, Annie Besant. His English management team tried to get him into both Oxford and London universities but failed; Krishnamurti was too young, too poorly prepared, and his managers were viewed as hoaxy frauds in many circles. Still there was a movement to be developed and money to be made. There were many believers and many large donations. Private tutors were hired and life went on.

Krishnamurti's life companion was his beloved brother "Nityananda" who traveled the world with him, sustaining some semblance of normalcy in their very peculiar world. When Nitya contracted tuberculosis, they moved to Ojai California seeking hot dry air for a cure.

Aug 1922 - Kundalini awakening announced.

Nov 1925 - brother Nitya dies of TB.

Surya Mahadasha

age 25-31


Aug 1929, Abdication speech ="truth is a pathless land " : Rejecting occult study, authority figures, and ceremonial religion as paths to truth.

His primary western handler Ms. Annie Besant had gone senile and she did not recognize that Krishnamurti had effectively ended the organization as she had designed it.

Surya-Mesha-4 is a highly auspicious placement. One may "work" if one chooses, entirely at the pleasure of the native , and entirely for "noble enterprise".

For the next nearly 60 years he travelled on a 3-country pattern between India, UK, and USA; gave lectures; tended his vegetable garden; and relaxed with friends, funded by a remarkably wealthy organization which continued to hold him up as a World Teacher -- despite his vigorously denouncing this role . He certainly never had to work in the conventional sense of the term.

Chandra Mahadasha


age 31-41

Mangala Mahadasha

age 41-48

Rahu Mahadasha

age 48-66

Guru Mahadasha

age 66-82

Shani Mahadasha

age 82-101

Shani-Shukra period

temporal maraka + natural maraka

  • 17 Feb 1986, death by liver cancer, age 90

Dominant Graha according to House Rulership: Jiddu Krishnamurti

The Seven rashi-owning graha

Extra credit for being D-1 or D-9:

= lagnesha

= lord of Chandra

= lord of Arudha lagna

= Atmakaraka

= lord of 10th navamsha

  • lord of karakamsha

# of planets in His rashi,

in radix

(including Rahu/Ketu)

# of graha in His rashi,

in navamsha

(including Rahu/Ketu)

total

Sun

= Atmakaraka

Moon

= lord of Arudha lagna

2

1

0

4

Mars

1

1

2

4

Mercury

= lord of 10th navamsha

2

3

1

6

Jupiter

lord of karakamsha

2

1

3

6

Venus

0

2

0

2

Saturn = lagnesha

1

1

3

5

Totals

8

9

9

26

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