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5th-from-any-house - 5th-from-Chandra
Creativity - creative ability obtained through education
Fame; Populace / Popularity, Celebrity
Authorship/Authority - Academic Credentials
Mother's Money/Values - money
Entrepreneur -- Gambling, Gaming, Casinos, Speculation, Investment Banking
Puttrah:
sons/children
putraki, putriki - daughter
a child, animal's young
anything little or small
~~ V. S. Apte, Practical Sanskrit-English Dictionary, p. 1029
Suta:
impelled , urged
allowed , authorized
pressed out , extracted
the expressed Soma. Juice , a Soma libation
begotten , brought forth
a daughter, a son , child , offspring
the 5th astrological house
the plant Alhagi Maurorum
born , engendered
one that has , brought forth (young)
quicksilver
the sun
a woman who has given birth to a child
Sons [children], intellect, mantraa, faith in God, heart, and maternal uncles be deduced from the fifth house.
-- Madhya Parashari, Ch. 9 , Shloka 5
A royal emblem, minister, tax or toll, Atma (self-culture) wisdom, knowledge of the future (foresight) Prana (life), progeny, belly, Sruti (Vedic learning) and Smriti (customary traditional knowledge depending on memory and transferred by word of mouth) are represented by the 5th house.
- Phaladeepika, Ch1, Shloka 11-12
"Putra" or how he/she Creates, is seen through:
5th house from radix lagna & L-5
5th from Chandra & its Lord
5th from karaka Jupiter & its Lord
lord of L-5's navamsha house
The 5th from Guru... stands for consideration respectively in respect of offspring...
--BPHS Ch. 7, Shloka 39-43
The astrological picture of *genius* as expressed through children, artistic talent, creativity, or speculation (gambling) is expanded by noting:
5th-from-5th, or Dharma bhava
rashi (D-1) planets in Simha (Leo)
D-1 5th lord within navamsha
Sun within navamsha
D-1 5th lord within saptamsha (D-7, the 7th harmonic varga)
5th house within D-7
In the physical body, putra bhava signifies:
gall bladder
intestines
abdomen
liver
spleen
stomach
In the physical body, putra bhava rules the abdomen or "belly". Within the belly, putra bhava signifies liver, spleen, and stomach.
If you have a robust putra bhava, expect a healthy belly. Trouble in the 5th house such as a Saturn aspect to putra bhava signifies belly troubles. Ayurvedic medicine can provide reliable cures for most constitutional body events.
Putra = 'child'.
Putra bhava's significations include the full scope of one's relationship to children, including -- if there are difficult planets in or dhristi ("focus") to putra bhava -- miscarriages and therapeutic abortions.
Putra sthana especially concerns the first conception, first full-term pregnancy, first live birth of a child, and the oldest living child. (These may be four different beings!)
Finding one's children in the chart:
house 5 = child 1
house 7 = child 2
house 9 = child 3
house 11 = child 4
house 1 = child 5
house 3 = child 6
etc.
For a fuller profile of each child, also count children from Chandra and from Saptamsha 5th house.
For a fuller profile of each child, also count the sequence of children from the Chandra lagna.
Counting by Conceptions rather than live births
A word to the wise:
When searching for the role of a particular child in the parent's chart, it sometimes works better to count conceptions rather than live children. If a stressful planet like Mars occupies putra bhava, there may have been a number of partial pregnancies. The first live child could have been the fourth or fifth conception -- or more. This counting is tricky because physicians say 20% or more of natural pregnancies result in natural miscarriage before the end of the first trimester.
Those early bail-outs might or might not be significant in the mother's chart, depending on her emotional response to the fetal deaths. You will need intuition! If there have been therapeutic abortions, and the mother makes an inquiry about one of her children, that mother will need to be honest with her astrologer in order to find the right house for the particular child in question. Unlike natural or therapeutic abortions however, children lost after the first trimester such as stillbirths always have a pronounced traumatic effect on the mother and therefore they certainly "count".
Sometimes the mother consciously connects with the spirit of a failed pregnancy and sometimes she does not.
Sometimes the spirit attempting to incarnate in the failed pregnancy must go out, regroup, and try again. In this situation, if initial failed pregnancies were all attempts by the same original spirit, the first live child will continue to match the profile of mother's putra bhava. He just had to try several times to correctly match her childbirth energy.
If several different spirits were trying to get a body, but mom was not ready, and thus none of them succeeded, it might be helpful to find the successful birth by counting previous conceptions and not previous births.
If putra bhava does not seem to fit the role and personality of her first child as you know that child and the dashas don't match up, you might get a more accurate profile of the child by counting children based on conceptions rather than live births.
Each house lord residing in putra bhava will strongly mark the fate and character of the children.
"If Dhana's lord is in Putra Bhava the native will be wealthy. Not only the native, but also his sons, will be intent on earning wealth."
-- BPHS Ch. 11, shloka 6
"...if the fifth house is subject to favorable combinations or aspects, the son will become prominent and the native himself would either secure authority by dint of effort or secure mantra siddhi."
~~ B. V. Raman, Autobiography of a vedic astrologer, p.95
Creativity, Performance Arts, Amusements
Putrasthana is the natural house of the Sun, karaka for Self.
The most basic form of self-expression is procreativity, producing and/or raising children that resemble one physically, psychically, morally, or intellectually. The alternative or next level is creativity in the arts. Putra bhava contains the profile of the full range of self-expression through the literary, fine, plastic, and performance arts.
A strong putra bhava reveals talent in all aspects of dance & theater. Literary self-expression, authorship, and fame through writings occur when positive planets such as Jupiter or Mercury are powerful in putra bhava.
However, the principle of bhavat bhavam, i.e., negative effects of a strong karaka in its own house, says that too much creative power in the dramatic or fine arts will usually deny or reduce children.
Karaka for putra bhava = Brihaspati, the expansion planet. The more auspicious and unimpeded one's 5th-house Jupiter, the more one's creativity will incline toward arts of high civilization, and the less toward producing fleshly children.
Major performance artists will tend very much toward childlessness or a single child, unless they can arrange surrogate parents like housekeepers or nannies to actually raise their children. Similarly great authors, screenwriters, play-writes, and other literary achievers tend very much toward a childless life. Ditto often, for master teachers (since great educators are by definition great actors) in all fields.
Childlessness is most simply known through an unproductive position of the 5th lord.
Should Putra's lord be in Ari, Randhra, or Vyaya Bhava, there will be no offspring.
-- BPHS Ch. 11, shloka 1-3
A good example of extraordinary, eccentric creativity and success in entertainment arts can be seen through the curiously effective fifth house in Beatle George Harrison's chart.
Suta bhava signifies "intelligence".
One definition of 'intellect' is 'the faculty by which humans can assess thoughts'.
Not generate that steady stream of conversational interactive repetitive thoughts which occurs in domain-3 and under auspices of Budha.
Rather, 'assess' thoughts. Domain-5 reveals one's capacity to understand, evaluate, reflect, enliven, and enlighten thoughts which can be called "creativity".
Rashi, graha, and drishti upon domain-5 will define the scope of creative intelligence.
Intelligence vs. Education = domain-5 vs. domain-4
Domain-4 = the socialization level of education.
Domain-5 = individual intelligence.
If domain-4 is very strong while domain-5 is weak, the native could be highly socialized, having completed college & even graduate school in a technical subject, without having the least drop of personal creativity. The mass of patriotic "guardian" types are very much like this: solid citizens, property owners who love & care for the land, & desire security above all.
If domain-5 should surpass domain-4, the native might have very little stability of upbringing or formal education -- and yet be wildly successful in publishing, industrial design, or performance arts. The typical celebrity of stage & screen is indeed undereducated formally. However as a class, they a charismatic intelligence in theatrical expression.
Most of the world figures featured in these Jyotisha pages will indeed have strong qualities in domain-5; this self-selection is the result of their already having become famous!
However for students it may be valuable to take a look at the domain-4 qualities (stability, security, citizenship, roots, socializing education) of the average good person in your circle of friends and family.
It is quite common (and commendable) in the West for natives to enjoy 16-to-20 years of formal education (domain-4), but these many years of coursework do not produce any greater or lesser intelligence than the native enjoyed at birth.
The highly-educated individual is not any more creative; one is has accumulated knowledge in the form of property, which creates the professional security and entitlement of the knowledge-worker classes.
A strong domain-5 gives the power not simply to own information as a form of property (domain-4) but it gives the native the capacity to create new understandings, new meanings, and new expressions of the culture as it moves forward into higher levels of civilization. Clearly domain-5 generates children, who create precisely this forward movement into new ways of living. Domain-5 grants a speculative intelligence, an ability to see knowledge in the abstract and reason with it philosophically, as an abstraction or "idea" rather than as a fixed quantity of information bound into a cultural tradition.
The specific graha in domain-5 and the L-5 will show the nature of the intelligence.
Surya in domain-5 is primarily a rational style of intelligence; likes performance art including theatre and politics
Chandra in domain-5 is primarily an intuitive style of intelligence, and often psychically gifted
Kuja in domain-5 gives competitive, dynamic intelligence. Brilliant battle plans. Damages children.
Budha in domain-5 brings a love of detail & craft to the intelligence, and outputs expression in writing, performance, and all other media. Sexual genius.
Guru in domain-5 brings extraordinary broad optimism into the intelligence, a huge speculative faith which makes a wonderful coach & preacher.
Shukra in domain-5 is design, design, design. Material beauty intelligence that envisions & makes attractive. Beautiful children.
Shani in domain-5 restrains the creative intelligence & sets limits on personal speculation; tends to punish the native for taking creative risks. Children are a burden.
Rahu gives wild risk-taking & taboo-breaking intelligence, high romance, and exotic ideas.
Ketu gives a reflective and detached philosophical intelligence, which may seek no public output although it is very deep and valuable. Early separation from children.
Creative ability obtained through education
House-4 properly rules education: that basic socialization which allows us all to get along. House-4 contains the entire portfolio of home, mother, emotional security, and social security. A good basic socialization, usually accomplished by the mother and very predominantly female early-education teachers, teaches children how to treat others properly.
After the fundamental moral education is accomplished in bandhu bhava, the native is equipped to set out upon the world stage.
If house-5 is then auspicious, his education will provide a springboard for recognized social accomplishment. Lasting fame, wealth from speculation, celebrity, authorship, literary and theatrical accomplishments are -- for most people in most civilizations -- the result of training, preparation, focused parental guidance, and the confidence which comes from an emotionally secure childhood.
Upon that foundation, can be laid the ego-glory of a strong putra bhava.
Tula lagna is known to create famous statesmen, because Shani the graha of discipline and practice, rules both house-4 and house-5. When Shani is dignified for Tula-lagna, sustained creative ability in large-scale governance arises from the blessed combination of strong family foundations giving emotional security, with strong personal intelligence giving genius.
Although not as powerful in effect, Sun-Moon rule house-5 and house-4 for Mesha lagna. Prediction of exceptional leadership abilities is reduced for Mesha lagna because both Surya and Chandra must be highly dignified to get maximum results.
When the fifth lord is positively disposed, the native will have good luck in games of chance. Compulsive gamblers will have Rahu/Ketu in putra or dharma bhava, or Rahu/Ketu with L5.
Mysterious inner patterns of lotteries, stock markets, mutual funds, pyramid schemes, and other large pooled monies which are controlled by people outside of one's family, are seen primarily in the mysterious 8th house.
By contrast, the conservative banking of dhana bhava is not playful, but rather serious about maintaining the family's traditional values - especially the family's long-held wealth.
As 4th-from-2nd putra bhava provides a "home for the native's wealth - that is, typically, an investment container or "bank".
However, one's personal profits or losses from "playing" these funds are determined by putra bhava and its attributes.
Mother's Money or Mother's "Banking Position"
2nd-from any house indicates the wealth holdings of that house.
E.g., 2nd-from-9th or karma bhava shows the father's wealth. 2nd-from-12th or lagna indicates the maternal grandfather's wealth, etc.
2nd-from-4th or putra bhava will therefore indicate the mother's wealth.
As 9th-from-9th, putra bhava tells about the paternal grandfather. To see the whole picture of father's father however compare putra profile with 9th-from-Surya.
Paternal grandmother is 4th-from-9th vyaya bhava andr 4th from Surya. Maternal grandfather is 9th-from-4th also vyaya bhava, and 9th-from-Moon. Mother's mother is 4th-from-4th yuvati bhava and 4th-from-Chandra.
Mantra, Tantra, Siddhis, and Sacred Arts
As 10th-from-8th, putra confers occult knowledge, intuitive perceptions, and professional recognition in occult societies. Moon in Pisces here will give mantra siddhi.
The learned should deduce from Putra Bhava: amulets, sacred spells, learning, knowledge, sons, royalty (or authority), fall of position, etc..
-- BPHS - Ch. 24, shloka 17
As the house of love (not marriage, only love!) putra bhava signifies primarily the deepest loves of all: love of God and love of one's children. Thus putra profiles the wellsprings of creativity, which flow forth in spiritual practice, literature, poetry, arts, cultivated exquisitry of life at court, and romance.
Romantic relationships outside of marriage, including romance before marriage, after marriage, and during marriage (including carnal relations or adultery) are seen in putra bhava. Other aspects of courtly life including overall social inclinations, ambassadors, various forms of amusements including occult activities (think Tarot cards!) along with games and competitions are included.
...as well as notoriety, especially as gained through publications or through politics, is seen in putra bhava - the house of fame.
Royal Behaviors & Higher Knowledge
The royal court provides best opportunities for learning. Thus advanced knowledge, high scholarship, academic patronage, graduate education in arts and letters, wisdom and intelligence, are all part of putra bhava.
Autocratic expressions of the royal court's charismatic authority including entrepreneurial instinct and management ability (kingly traits) traditional laws (by authority of God and King; none of this democratic republic stuff) and kindness (the core truth of an authentic king) are found in the fifth house as well.
For management ability, entrepreneurial instinct, and overall good fortune, see the exceptionally powerful fifth house of Bill Gates's radix chart.
Advice for the day: If you have a lot of tension and you get a headache, do what it says on the aspirin bottle:
"Take two aspirin" and "Keep away from children"
The Twelve Solar Domains (Bhava, Sthana, Kshetra)
updated: 31 August 2008
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