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DOMAIN 5


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5th-from-any-house - 5th-from-Chandra

Puttrah:

  • sons/children
  • putraki, putriki - daughter
  • a child, animal's young
  • anything little or small

~~ V. S. Apte, Practical Sanskrit-English Dictionary, p. 1029


Suta:

  • impelled , urged
  • allowed , authorized
  • pressed out , extracted
  • the expressed Soma. Juice , a Soma libation
  • begotten , brought forth
  • a daughter, a son , child , offspring
  • the 5th astrological house
  • the plant Alhagi Maurorum
  • born , engendered
  • one that has , brought forth (young)
  • quicksilver
  • the sun
  • a woman who has given birth to a child

~~ Cologne Digital Sanskrit Lexicon


Sons [children], intellect, mantraa, faith in God, heart, and maternal uncles be deduced from the fifth house.

-- Madhya Parashari, Ch. 9 , Shloka 5


  • "A royal emblem,
  • minister,
  • tax or toll,
  • Atma (self-culture)
  • wisdom,
  • knowledge of the future (foresight)

  • Prana (life),
  • progeny,
  • belly,
  • Sruti (Vedic learning)
  • and Smriti (customary traditional knowledge depending on memory and transferred by word of mouth)
are represented by the 5th house."

- Phaladeepika, Ch1, Shloka 11-12


"The 5th from Guru ... stands for consideration respectively in respect of offspring..."

--BPHS Ch. 7, Shloka 39-43


"Putra" or how he/she Creates, is seen through:

  • 5th house from radix lagnaand L-5

  • 5th from Chandra and its Lord

  • 5th from karaka Jupiter and its Lord

  • lord of L-5's navamsha house


he astrological picture of *genius* as expressed through children, artistic talent, creativity, or speculation (gambling) is expanded by noting:

  • 5th-from-5th, or Dharma bhava

  • rashi (D-1) planets in Simha (Leo)

  • D-1 5th lord within navamsha

  • Sun within navamsha

  • D-1 5th lord within saptamsha (D-7, the 7th harmonic varga)

  • 5th house within D-7


Body Parts

In the physical body, putra bhava signifies:

  • heart and belly

  • gall bladder

  • intestines

  • Abdomen

  • liver

  • spleen

  • stomach

In the physical body, putra bhava rules the Abdomen Or "belly". Within the belly, putra bhava signifies liver, spleen, and stomach.

As 12th-from-6th, Suta bhava gives the dissolution of imbalance. Thus domain-5 is a house of excellent health. Periods of L-5 signify dissolution of social conflict and recovery from disease.

If you have a robust putra bhava, expect a healthy belly. Trouble in the 5th house such as a Saturn aspect to putra bhava signifies belly troubles. Ayurvedic medicinecan provide reliable cures for most constitutional body events.


Children

Putra = 'child'.

Putra bhava's significations include the full scope of one's relationship to children, including -- if there are difficult planets in or dhristi ("focus") to putra bhava -- miscarriages and therapeutic abortions.

Putra sthana especially concerns the first conception, first full-term pregnancy, first live birth of a child, and the oldest living child. (These may be four different beings!)

Finding one's children in the chart -

count the emotional relationship with each child from Chandra lagna:

count the material relationship with each child (physical body, finance etc) from radix lagna:

For a fuller profile of each child, also count children from Saptamsha lagna and from the position of the graha which is radix L-5 as that graha is located within D-7.


Counting by Conceptions rather than live births

A word to the wise:

  • When searching for the role of a particular child in the parent's chart, it sometimes works better to count conceptions rather than live children. If a stressful planet like Mars occupies putra bhava, there may have been a number of partial pregnancies. The first live child could have been the fourth or fifth conception -- or more. This counting is tricky because physicians say 20% or more of natural pregnancies result in natural miscarriage before the end of the first trimester.
  • hose early bail-outs might or might not be significant in the mother's chart, depending on her emotional response to the fetal deaths. You will need intuition! If there have been therapeutic abortions, and the mother makes an inquiry about one of her children, that mother will need to be honest with her astrologer in order to find the right house for the particular child in question.Unlike natural or therapeutic abortions however, children lost after the first trimester such as stillbirths always have a pronounced traumatic effect on the mother and therefore they certainly "count".

Sometimes the mother consciously connects with the spirit of a failed pregnancy and sometimes she does not.

  • Sometimes the spirit attempting to incarnate in the failed pregnancy must go out, regroup, and try again. In this situation, if initial failed pregnancies were all attempts by the same original spirit, the first live child will continue to match the profile of mother's putra bhava. He just had to try several times to correctly match her childbirth energy.
  • If several different spirits were trying to get a body, but mom was not ready, and thus none of them succeeded, it might be helpful to find the successful birth by counting previous conceptions and not previous births.
  • If putra bhava does not seem to fit the role and personality of her first child as you know that child and the dashas don't match up, you might get a more accurate profile of the child by counting children based on conceptions rather than live births.

Each house lord residing in putra bhava will strongly mark the fate and character of the children.


Creativity, Performance Arts, Amusements

Putra bhava is the natural house of the Sun, karaka for Self.

The most basic form of self-expression is procreativity, producing and/or raising children that resemble one physically, psychically, morally, or intellectually. The alternative or next level is creativity in the arts. Putra bhava contains the profile of the full range of self-expression through the literary, fine, plastic, and performance arts.

  • A strong putra bhava reveals talent in all aspects of dance and theater.

  • Literary self-expression, authorship, and fame through writings occur when positive planets such as Jupiter or Mercury are powerful in putra bhava.
  • A good example of extraordinary, eccentric creativity and success in entertainment arts can be seen through the curiously effective fifth house in Beatle George Harrison's chart.

However, the principle of bhavat bhavam, i.e., negative effects of Astrong karaka in its own house, says that too much creative power in the dramatic or fine arts will usually deny or reduce children.

  • Karaka for putra bhava = Brihaspati, the expansion planet.
  • The more auspicious and unimpeded one's 5th-house Jupiter, the more one's creativity will incline toward arts of high civilization, and the less toward producing fleshly children.

Major performance artists will tend very much toward childlessness or a single child, unless they can arrange surrogate parents like housekeepers or nannies to actually raise their children.

  • Similarly great authors, screenwriters, play-writes, and other literary achievers tend very much toward a childless life. Ditto often, for master teachers (since great educators are by definition great actors) in all fields.

Childlessness is most simply known through an unproductive position of the 5th lord.


Should Putra's lord be in Ari, Randhra, or Vyaya Bhava, there will be no offspring.~~ BPHS Ch. 11, shloka 1-3


"If Dhana's lord is in Putra Bhava the native will be wealthy. Not only the native, but also his sons, will be intent on earning wealth." -- BPHS Ch. 11, shloka 6


"...if the fifth house is subject to favorable combinations or aspects, the son will become prominent and the native himself would either secure authority by dint of effort or secure mantra siddhi." ~~ B. V. Raman, Autobiography of a vedic astrologer, p.95


Intelligence

Suta bhava signifies "intelligence".

One definition of 'intellect' is 'the faculty by which humans can assess thoughts'.

  • Not generate that steady stream of conversational interactive repetitive thoughts which occurs in domain-3 and under auspices of Budha.

  • Rather, 'assess' thoughts. Domain-5 reveals one's capacity to understand, evaluate, reflect, enliven, and enlighten thoughts which can be called "creativity".

Rashi, graha, and drishti upon domain-5 will define the scope of creative intelligence.


Intelligence vs. Education = domain-5 vs. domain-4

Domain-4 = the socialization level of education.

Domain-5 = individual intelligence.

If domain-4 is very strong while domain-5 is weak, the native could be highly socialized, having completed college and even graduate school in a technical subject, without having the least drop of personal creativity. The mass of patriotic "guardian" types are very much like this: solid citizens, property owners who love and care for the land, and desire security above all.

If domain-5 should surpass domain-4, the native might have very little stability of upbringing or formal education -- and yet be wildly successful in publishing, industrial design, or performance arts. The typical celebrity of stage and screen is indeed undereducated formally. However as a class, they a charismatic intelligence in theatrical expression.


Many of the world figures featured in these Jyotisha pages will indeed have strong qualities in domain-5; this self-selection is the result of their already having become famous!

However for students it may be valuable to take a look at the domain-4 qualities (stability, security, citizenship, roots, socializing education) of the average good person in your circle of friends and family.

It is quite common (and commendable) in the West for natives to enjoy 16-to-20 years of formal education (domain-4), but these many years of coursework do not produce any greater or lesser intelligence than the native enjoyed at birth.

The highly-educated individual is not any more creative; one is has accumulated knowledge in the form of property, which creates the professional security and entitlement of the knowledge-worker classes.

A strong domain-5 gives the power not simply to own information as a form of property (domain-4) but it gives the native the capacity to create new understandings, new meanings, and new expressions of the culture as it moves forward into higher levels of civilization. Clearly domain-5 generates children, who create precisely this forward movement into new ways of living. Domain-5 grants a speculative intelligence, an ability to see knowledge in the abstract and reason with it philosophically, as an abstraction or "idea" rather than as a fixed quantity of information bound into a cultural tradition.


The specific graha in domain-5 and the L-5 will show the nature of the intelligence.

  • Surya in domain-5 is primarily a rational style of intelligence; likes performance art including theatre and politics

  • Chandra in domain-5 is primarily an intuitive style of intelligence, and often psychically gifted

  • Kuja in domain-5 gives competitive, dynamic intelligence. Brilliant battle plans. Damages children.

  • Budha in domain-5 brings a love of detail and craft to the intelligence, and outputs expression in writing, performance, and all other media. Sexual genius.

  • Guru in domain-5 brings extraordinary broad optimism into the intelligence, a huge speculative faith which makes a wonderful coach and preacher.

  • Shukra in domain-5 is design, design, design. Material beauty intelligence that envisions and makes attractive. Beautiful children.

  • Shani in domain-5 restrains the creative intelligence and sets limits on personal speculation; tends to punish the native for taking creative risks. Children are a burden.

  • Rahu gives wild risk-taking and taboo-breaking intelligence, high romance, and exotic ideas.

  • Ketu gives a reflective and detached philosophical intelligence, which may seek no public output although it is very deep and valuable. Early separation from children.


Creative capabilities developed through education

House-4 properly rules education: that basic socialization which allows us all to get along. House-4 contains the entire portfolio of home, mother, emotional security, and social security. A good basic socialization, usually accomplished by the mother and very predominantly female early-education teachers, teaches children how to treat others properly.

After the fundamental moral education is accomplished in bandhu bhava, the native is equipped to set out upon the world stage.

  • If house-5 = auspicious, his education will provide a springboard for recognized social accomplishment.
  • Lasting fame, wealth from speculation, celebrity, authorship, literary and theatrical accomplishments are -- for most people in most civilizations -- the result of training, preparation, focused parental guidance, and the confidence which comes from an emotionally secure childhood.
  • Upon that foundation, can be laid the ego-glory of a strong putra bhava.

Thula
lagna
is known to create famous statesmen, because Shani the graha of discipline and practice, rules both house-4 and house-5. When yogakaraka Shani is dignified for Thula
-lagna, sustained creative ability in large-scale governance arises from the blessed combination of strong family foundations giving emotional security, plus strong personal intelligence giving genius.

Although not as powerful in effect, Sun-Moon will rule house-5 and house-4 for Mesha lagna. Prediction of exceptional leadership abilities is reduced for Mesha lagna because both Surya and Chandra must be highly dignified to get maximum results.


Gambling

When the fifth lord is positively disposed, the native will have good luck in games of chance. Compulsive gamblers will have Rahu/Ketu in putra or dharma bhava, or Rahu/Ketu with L5.

Mysterious inner patterns of lotteries, stock markets, mutual funds, pyramid schemes, and other large pooled monies which are controlled by people outside of one's family, are seen primarily in the mysterious 8th house.

By contrast, the conservative banking of dhana bhava is not playful, but rather serious about maintaining the family's traditional values - especially the family's long-held wealth.

As 4th-from-2nd putra bhava provides a "home for the native's wealth - that is, typically, an investment container or "bank".

However, one's personal profits or losses from "playing" these funds are determined by putra bhava and its attributes.


Mother's Money Or Mother's "Banking Position"

2nd-from any house indicates the wealth holdings of that house.

  • E.g., 2nd-from-9th or karma bhava shows the father's wealth. 2nd-from-12th or lagna indicates the maternal grandfather's wealth, etc.

2nd-from-4th or putra bhava will therefore indicate the mother's wealth.


Paternal grandfather

As 9th-from-9th, putra bhava tells about the material conditions of the father of the father.

Emotional relationship to the paternal grandfather = 9th-from-9th-from-Chandra .

o see the whole picture of father's father, compare putra bhava profile with 9th-from-Surya.

  • Paternal grandmother = 4th-from-9th [vyaya bhava] and 4th-from-Surya .
  • Maternal grandfather is 9th-from-4th [also vyaya bhava] and 9th-from- Soma .
  • Mother's mother = 4th-from-4th [yuvati bhava] and 4th-from-Chandra.

Mantra, Tantra , Siddhi, and Sacred Arts

As 10th-from-8th, putra bhava confers occult knowledge, intuitive perceptions, and professional recognition in occult societies. Moon in Pisces here will give mantra siddhi.


"The learned should deduce from Putra Bhava: amulets, sacred spells, learning, knowledge, sons, royalty (or authority), fall of position, etc.."

-- BPHS - Ch. 24, shloka 17


"Should Putra's lord be in his own bhava, or in own Navamsha or in exaltation, the native will be endowed with comforts related to lands, conveyances, houses, etc., and musical instruments."

~~ BPHS Ch. 15


Courtship and Romance

As the house of divine love (not marriage, only love!) Surya's own putra bhava signifies primarily the deepest loves of all: love of God and love of one's children.

Thus putra profiles the wellsprings of creativity, which flow forth in spiritual practice, literature, poetry, arts, cultivated exquisitry of life at court, and romance.

Domain-5 represents romantic (not necessarily sexual) love relationships outside of marriage, including romance before marriage, and after marriage. Romantic relationships are distinguished by their lack of a contract (7) that would specify obligations and rights within a marriage. In general, domain-5 can encompass all love relationships that have no legal or moral contract.

Exception:

  • Extra-marital affairs conducted during the course of a legal marriage (including carnal relations or adultery) are more generally read from domain-12, 6th-from-7th, the house of privacy, escape, and bed pleasures. Naturally, vyaya bhava is also the house of animosity toward the spouse.

Other aspects of courtly life are included in the portfolio of domain-5. E.g., parties and celebratory social gatherings, opportunities to express one's intelligence and wit, brilliant performances, ambassadors and ministers, various forms of amusements, (where the Muse is present), speculation, games and competitions of all kinds.


Authority : domain-5 creative fathering vs. domain-10 punitive fathering

Celebrity through authority, as well as through notoriety, especially as gained through publication or through politics, is seen in putra bhava - the house of speculative creativity and fame.

Domain-5 version of 'authority' is not to be confused with the 'authority-figure' leadership roles of domain-10.

In domain-5, natural house of brilliant Ravi, the native enjoys 'authorship', through publications of authoritative scholarship (which is then celebrated as an expression of divine intelligence) or by writing or performing works of high civilization, such as marvelous dances, theatrical plays, or musical compositions. This type of "authority derives from the sacred sense of 'father' as in Holy Father, the source of divine intelligence.

"... Autor "father," from O.Fr. auctor, from L. auctor ... "enlarger, founder," lit. " One who causes to grow," ... from augere "to increase" (see augment)."

~~ www.etymonline.com

In domain-10, the natural house of dark and punitive Shani, authority is more of the social-control variety. Karma bhava represents the authority to impose laws, to maintain order, to enforce conformity, to make executive decisions which affect large groups of people who are organized into hierarchical ranks.

Naturally, Shani promotes a very different type of "authority", deriving from the human sense of 'father' as the maintainer of order in the home.

Residing at a mutually hostile 6-8 angle, Surya's authorship in the creative sense of "causes [divine intelligence] to grow" in domain-5, is at permanent loggerheads with Shani's authority in the anti-creative, law-and-order sense of father, 'autor' in domain-10.



The royal court provides best opportunities for creative learning (Surya) that is not constrained by the fears of the common people (Shani) .

Thus advanced knowledge, high scholarship, academic patronage, graduate education in arts and letters, wisdom and intelligence, are counted in the portfolio of putra bhava.

Autocratic expressions of the royal court's charismatic authority include

  • entrepreneurial instinct and a management style which honors individual genius
  • rule by divine right Surya), not rule by the State (Shani) or by any law inherent in the human or material world, except as the royal figure embodies the state. Entitlement to rule flows from the divine through the courageous heart of the King (or Queen).
  • natural kindness (the core truth of an authentic king) toward subjects as a parent feels toward one's child
For management ability, entrepreneurial instinct, and overall good fortune, see the exceptionally powerful tenants of Bill Gates' fifth house.

English etymology of "king"

  • O.E. cyning, from P.Gmc. *kuninggaz
  • (cf. Du. koning, O.H.G. kuning, O.N. konungr, Dan. konge, Ger. könig).
  • Possibly related to O.E. cynn "family, race" (see kin), making a king originally a "leader of the people;" or from a related root suggesting "noble birth," making a king originally "one who descended from noble birth."
  • he sociological and ideological implications make this a topic of much debate.
  • Finnish kuningas "king,"Lith. kunigas "clergyman" are loans from Gmc.
  • O.C.S. kunegu "prince" (Rus. knyaz, Boh. knez),
  • In O.E., used for names of chiefs of Anglian and Saxon tribes or clans, then of the states they founded. Also extended to British and Danish chiefs they fought.

~~~ www.etymonline.com


"The ruler of Lanka (Ravana), the conqueror of the worlds, got defeat from the animals (the monkeys).
The best of the kings, the Kuru king (Duryodhana), suffered a kick at the head.
At the end, everybody in common with everyone else suffers humiliation, which takes away his respect.
Who then is he, who under the influence of conceit, thinks that he is great? ~~Rajatarangini, 8.335

Advice for the day:

If you have a lot of tension and you get a headache, do what it says on the aspirin bottle:

  • Take two aspirin" and "Keep away from children"

In all your designs you will succeed, and light will shine on your path.

~~ Job 22:28


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