L-8 in the 12 Domains
how the native handles sudden, secret, transformative, catastrophic change
(interpretation must be combined with the natal conditions of Domain-8, 8th-from-Chandra, drishti etc.)
Nine planets navagraha in domain-8: Effects on Longevity and Circumstances of Death
As a general rule, the lord of house-8 causes sudden, forces changes wherever He goes. The eighth lord is only superficially destructive. What He is really doing is taking the essential energy from one physical container, and moving it into a new physical container.
That is the essence of tantra. That is the business of domain-8.
The eighth lord carries behaviors of "emergency", "sudden movement", and "hidden forces".
Kuja is a hunter and He tracks the mysterious movements of the animals whose very bodies will be - if captured and killed - transformed into food. Animal killing and regeneration of human life through animal meat is a harsh reality, but the human species is largely chained to it.
Even in vegetarian cultures the movement of life force through the plant kingdom is shocking and mysterious. Sometimes the food is there - sometimes it is not. Many secret signs and omens must be observed if the human wishes to have a steady rejuvenating supply of food.
L-8 brings sudden and catastrophic changes of form: destruction, death, emergence, revitalization, rebirth.
The movement of the life force is hidden. The native will learn to manage or accommodate intense sudden changes of form, catastrophic changes of expectation, violent changes of conditions, wherever the eighth lord shall occur.
"Essentially the planet ruling the Eighth House destroys the auspicious influences of the house it occupies, except in the other houses connected with the Sea of Immutability."
~~ Planets in Signs & Houses, by Bepin Behari, p. 150
Barbara Walters, 'televisadora'
The lord of transformative destruction has entered the house of the annamayakosha ('food-body', physical body).
Native's appearance is "iconic" for massive changes. Socially identified with large-scale change, social transformation, crisis & healing, secrets & taboos, creation & destruction of identity, matters of the turning of the cycle of birth & death.
A healer & transformer with shamanic qualities.
8th-from-swakshetra = good results for secret sources of empowerment for tapping the wellsprings of ancient hidden knowledge; transformative healing through secret sexual relationships; and mystical allure in therapeutic and tantric initiation environments.
From Planets in Signs & Houses, by Bepin Behari :
"The lord of the eighth house occupying the ascendant produces ill health and disease. It makes the individual frustrated in life, critical of everything. He may however unexpectedly receive some monetary reward from the state." (p. 149)
Katie Holmes, actress
Arnold Schwartzenegger
Meryl Streep, actress
7th-from-swakshetra = auspicious for secret sources of empowerment for consulting and advising relationships; transformative healing through a variety of sexual relationships; and mystical allure in the courtroom and other adversarial settings.
The lord of transformative destruction has entered the house of family, face, food, and finance. Sudden, forces changes invade the domain of family of origin, wealth & values. Sudden changes in the native's marriage relationship or other important social contracts & promises.
Native speaks about the changes in their lineage values which have informed these catastrophic changes in their previous agreements. Emergence of hidden or taboo relationships, and the eventual stabilization of the exposed hidden contract within the traditional value system. Broken promises, explained.
Native is a change agent through their marriage relationship or other important social contracts & promises. They effect change through their power to express transitions in historic cultural values through speech.
From Planets in Signs & Houses, by Bepin Behari :
"Occupying the second house, [L-8] destroys the creative initiative of the individual, inducing him to earn his livelihood by surreptitious means.
He may be persecuted by the government or even suffer legal punishment. Retrieval of lost property is also possible with this placement." (p. 149)
Paul Newman, actor
The lord of transformative destruction has entered the house of mentality & media communications. L-8 in 8th-from-swakshetra = good but intense results via *total transformation* of the flow of thoughts through the daily mentality.
Good results for secret sources of empowerment for media promulgation, propaganda, distribution of writings and creative works; transformative healing through small-group interactions;; and mystical allure in communicative arts.
Reveals secret information. Has the power to transform cultural mentality through communications media. Native produces sudden, forced transformations through exposing culturally taboo materials. Articulation in writing, scripting, collaborative teamwork, sibling interaction, all mentalist media.
From Planets in Signs & Houses, by Bepin Behari :
"In the third house, the lord of the Eighth becomes detrimental to the happiness of siblings, saps one's valor, and destroys initiative. The individual is without any support in life." (p. 149)
The lord of transformative destruction has entered the house of home & country, shelter & protection.
9th-from-swakshetra =good results for windfalls and inheritance. Favorable for secret sources of empowerment for acquisition of religious identity; transformative healing through spiritual wisdom; and mystical allure in one's own home culture, typically as an icon of feminine beauty, strength, or wealth.
From Planets in Signs & Houses, by Bepin Behari : "One's parents are chronically ill and his patrimony greatly reduced if the eighth house lord occupies the fourth." (p. 149)
The lord of transformative destruction has entered the house of creative intelligence, 10th-from-swakshetra; results which improve over time (upachaya angle). The older the native gets, the better his results -- for both wisdom and money.
Good results for secret sources of empowerment for obtaining leadership positions; transformative healing through holding public trust, managing one's reputation; and tantric allure in high-profile social positions.
Leadership becomes a performance art. Privileged, secret relationships with entertainers and speculators.
Dangerous conditions of first birth to the native, or secrecy surrounding the first child. Circumstances may require casting a shield of secrecy around the children (e.g. to prevent kidnapping of celebrity children.)
Often an early miscarriage before successful childbirth. (The cycle of birth & death must turn before the karma is cleared out.)
From Planets in Signs & Houses, by Bepin Behari : "" Unless the planet is well fortified by association with or the aspect of benefics, the lord of Eight in the fifth house is inauspicious for children and the mental equilibrium. The individual seldom begets a child, and even if a child is born he becomes wayward and rebellious, a burden to the family. In this situation however there is a possibility of the individual acquiring substantial wealth, especially if he is denied children." (p. 149)
actress Jennifer Aniston
The lord of transformative destruction has entered the house of imbalance, conflict, enemies, debts, disease. 11th-from-swakshetra, results which improve over time (upachaya angle). Good results for secret sources of empowerment for gains of income; transformative healing through large networks of friendly association; and mystical allure in in huge gatherings such as rallies, music concerts, fayres and melas.
A dusthana lord residing in a dusthana generally gives favorable outcome. There are both easy and difficult implications.
Debt is destroyed; L-8 in domain-6 builds wealth quickly, native is not constrained by debt, native is gainful. However illness is increased, due to some negative habit acquired in the attempt to manage life's stress-conflict overload.
Powerful healers & secret methods will restore the native's health. After much transformative struggle (wisdom-building) enemies are destroyed - but only after the native realizes that the enemies are projections of unwanted aspects of his own self.
Overall prognosis is good, but the transformative processes at work are energy-consuming and complex.
From Planets in Signs & Houses, by Bepin Behari : "In the Sixth House, the eighth lord acquires special strength: one overcomes ones enemies and acquires much wealth, but suffers the illness suffered by the planet in question.." (p. 149)
The lord of transformative destruction has entered the house of balance, contracts, marriage & agreements.
12th-from-swakshetra, cause of loss of social personality identity. Good results for secret sources of empowerment for private imaginings and fantasies; transformative healing through knoweldge of one's immediate past life; and mystical allure in the bedroom arts.
Marriage relationship or other important social contracts & promises are destroyed through inability to achieve agreement. The change forces at work are too strong to allow long-term stability of agreements.
Spouse has many secret, taboo dealings.
Assets expected from death or divorce from spouse, will remain with the spouse. Destruction of social balance, equity, harmony, agreement. Native cannot agree on anything for long; sudden, disruptive changes in contracts, secret forces overwhelm the rule of law.
From Planets in Signs & Houses, by Bepin Behari : "In the Seventh House, the eighth lord will make the marriage partner ill-mannered, and may lead to several marriages. Even the relationship with one's business partners is soured. But if the planet is associated with Mars, the result is quite favorable." (p. 150)
Dusthana lord residing in a dusthana generally gives good outcome. There are both easy and difficult implications.
The lord of transformative destruction has entered the house of the circumstances of death and sudden changes. The end of life is shockingly fast, no warning.
1st-from-swakshetra, pure and intense results for secret sources of empowerment for the physical body (athleticism, muscular tone); transformative healing through the surgical skill; and tantric allure in material appearance of the social personality.
From Planets in Signs & Houses, by Bepin Behari : "When the lord of the Eighth House occupies its own sign in the eighth, it fortifies the life force of the individual and gives him special skill and extraordinary intelligence for unraveling hidden matters. The marriage partner however will prove unfaithful, and the native himself flouts all established decorum." (p. 150)
The lord of transformative destruction has entered the house of the father/parents, guru, priesthood, cultural ethos, ritual religion, & higher wisdom.
2nd-from-swakshetra: good results for secret sources of empowerment for food, family, face, and finance; transformative healing through (recovery of) family of origin lineage; and tantric allure in speech expressions of value and reckoning of mystical history.
Deep cycles of disruptive transformation affect the father. Father's deepest understanding of magical forces & transformative movements affects the native. Sometimes this understanding is conceptually articulated and sometimes it is simply rhythmic, intuitive, & expressed in a lifestyle that accommodates catastrophic changes.
Father and guru are social changes agents, overt or covert. Conventional religion is destroyed, and in its place a more tantric philosophy based on secret teachings.
Very broad view of large-scale atomic, cellular, personal, social, and historic change cycles. Not deceived by change of form - thus, less impressed by public sacrifice & ritual religion (although rarely disrespectful of it).
Native may become a guru within a privileged lineage, or abandon the priest/professor role altogether. In the best case, native teaches special insights into longevity/circumstances of death, the nature of empowerment & change, and the cycles of birth & death.
From Planets in Signs & Houses, by Bepin Behari : "In the ninth house, the lord of the eighth may make the individual lose his parents early in life. He may lack moral integrity, coveting the wealth or spouse of others." (p. 150)
The lord of transformative destruction has entered the house of leadership, public respect, career & profession.
3rd-from-swakshetra, results which improve over time (upachaya angle). Native is a communicator & leader in situations of large-scale catastrophic, transformative change.
From Planets in Signs & Houses, by Bepin Behari : "In the tenth house, the lord of the eighth provides the individual with employment in government, but his professional efficiency is low, and he is not well spoken of.
His mother dies early in his life." (p. 150)
The lord of transformative destruction has entered the house of gains, goals, community relationships & the marketplace.
4th-from-swakshetra: good results for secret property ownership, deepening of cultural roots, transformation and healing of the homeland.
From Planets in Signs & Houses, by Bepin Behari : "In the eleventh house, the native's income is from secret, unscrupulous, or illegal sources." (p. 150)
The lord of transformative destruction has entered the house of privacy, foreign lands, loss of identity, imagination, meditation, & sanctuary.
5th-from-swakshetra: good results for secret sources of empowerment for winnings, intelligence & creativity; transformative healing through children; and mystical allure in in entertainments or performance arts
Dusthana lord residing in a dusthana generally gives good effects. There are both easy and difficult implications. Privacy is largely destroyed.
From Planets in Signs & Houses, by Bepin Behari : "In the lord of the Eighth House is in the twelfth, the individual is greatly attracted toward the "secret" pleasures of life, spending money much beyond his means; he often dies ignominiously in a foreign land and without respectable funeral rites. These results however are likely to be altered by the influence of benefics or other auspicious horoscopic combinations." (p. 150)
updated: 24 September 2008
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