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50+ year career in fashion accessories design perfume + jewelry + eyewear luxury-goods commerce drama + song + cinema Sofia Costanza Brigida Villani Scicolone Ponti a.k.a. Sofia Villani Scicolone a.k.a. Sophia Lazzaro Earth-birth Thu-20-Sep-1934
Sophia Loren [age 23] in 1957, the year of her marriage to Carlo Ponti
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cinematic dramatist fashion eyewear entrepreneur 1934- Sofia Villani Scicolone = Sophia Loren
birth information from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sophia_Loren
tentatively rectified by BP Lama Jyotishavidya charts + graphs + tables = produced by Shri Jyoti Star software - adapted by BP Lama |
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Rising Nakshatra Feminine Nativities BPL commentary For Rohini births in the feminine valence, the condition of reflective, sheltering, undulating, rhythmic, routinized, culturally rooted, boundary-defending, security-seeking, nourishing, parental, matrikaraka Chandra may considerably affect the outcome. For those born into the Soma-ruled paradigm of Suravi, mother-figures, protectors, guardians, elemental spirits, natural environments, waters, roots, eggs, gardeners, farmers, fisher-folk, caretakers, foundation-builders, police, schoolteachers, parents, providers of nourishment , and defenders of the root culture, may be especially influential. Guidance for the Rohiṇī-born is provided by instructors from the civilizations of Al-debaran. Their purpose is to sweetly protect , defend, and shelter all the creatures and environments which come under their care. Praujapatya-born ladies are often found in the domestic arts, in caretaking and protective roles, or in specialties of home decor and property valuation. Their purpose is calming. Typically feminine births in Rohini indicate a comfortable, grounded focus into the realms of beauty, banking, luxury goods, and family lineage treasuries. All four pada occur within Vrishabha rashi. Surabhi-born thus express a tension between the materialistic, partnership-driven duality of Shukra versus the emotionally based, need-driven behaviors of Chandra. One seeks to be cared for in a sensual fashion. Known for their intuitive negotiation and equity-seeking skills, Rohini ladies are found in the worlds of finance, food, fashion, investment, evaluation, collections, and treasuries, with special emphasis on real-estate and jewelry. Themes of luxury accommodation, sensual nourishment, family affluence, and personal beauty may contextualize Rohini's terrestrial experience. Applies also to Chandra in Rohiṇī - Aldebaran
Sophia Loren and her husband Carlo Ponti in elder years. When they first married in 1957, she was age-23 and he was age-45. They had been married for fifty years when he deceased in 2007.
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QUOTATION from: Shil-Ponde.(1939). Hindu Astrology Joytisha-Shastra . p 92 " ...a round face, fair complexion, and a very nice figure.
Besides her beauty of face and figure she will have a keen intellect;
She will be devoted to her parents
because her personal inclinations will be clean, honest, and upright ." Special note from: QUOTATION from Shil-Ponde. (1939). Hindu Astrology Joytisha-Shastra . p 105
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Biographical Details matched to Vimshottari Dasha bhukti
[Mangala Mahadasha ] [age birth until age 2.2 ]
20-Sep-1934 Earth-birth at the Clinica Regina Margherita in Roma, Italia * Mangala-Ketu bhukti
1935 [SL age 01] invasion of Abyssinia by Benito Mussolini. The dictator spends the national treasury building weapons and manpower for the Empire-building war. Italian economy is drained by war-spending, and the people become impoverished. SL grows up with increasing scarcity. * Mangala-Shukra bhukti * Shukra rogesha, wartime finance [Rahu Mahadasha] [age 2.2 until age 20.2] 1950 [SL age 16] begins cinema career * Rahu-Shukra bhukti * lagnesha Shukra-Simha theatre 1950 [SL age 16] meets cinema director Carlo Ponti, a 22-years-older older married man with a family. According to SL, their connection was tangible. * Rahu-Shukra bhukti * lagnesha Shukra-Simha [Guru Mahadasha] [age 20.2 until age 36.2]
1956 [SL age 22] begin international visibility via five-film contract with Paramount Studios * Guru-Guru svabhukti * Guru rules 11-income, payments 17-Sep-1957 [SL age 23] [CP age 45] non-legitimated paper marriage-1-of-1 with film director Carlo Ponti, arranged by double-proxy in Mejico * Guru-Shani bhukti * [Rahu-yuti-Shani] ++ samchara Rahu-Ketu Tula-Mesha via Tula-6-illicit contracts 1960 [SL age 26] starring role in the critically acclaimed + popularly successful film Two Women = dozens of prizes * Guru-Budha bhukti * uchcha-Budha-5 drama 1962 [SL age 28] Academy Award [Oscar] Best Actress for a foreign-language performance * Guru-Shukra bhukti * lagnesha Shukra-Simha-4 homeland performances ++ dvadasa Sade-Sati
1965 [SL age 31] Following a 14 year liaison with beloved Ponti [illegitimated by Italian law] Carlo Ponti's first wife agrees to a divorce in France. * Guru-Shukra bhukti * Shukra rogesha, divorce ++ janma Sade-Sati 09-Apr-1966 [SL age 32] CP + SL = legally [re]married * Guru-Chandra bhukti * Chandra rules Karkata Svamsha - samchara Rahu-Ketu Vṛṣa-Vṛścika contact navamsha R-K. ++ janma Sade-Sati 29-Dec-1968 [SL age 36] celebrated the birth of child-1, musical orchestra director Carlo Ponti Jr.* Guru-Rahu chidradasha [Shani Mahadasha] [age 36.2 until age 55.2] 1976 [SL age 42] grieved the decease of father . SL said that she had met her dad only three times during her life * Shani-Ketu bhukti 1980 [SL age 46] initiated, designed + modeled an eponymous internationally successful line of spectacles for women [as of 2022, still among the most popular women's designer-branded eyewear globally] Shani-Shukra bhukti * Shukra lagnesha eponymous + Shukra rules 6 = medical appliance 1982 [SL age 48] served 18-day prison sentence for tax evasion. No harm to her career * Shani-Chandra bhukti * Chandra rules [nicha-Mangala-yuti-Ketu] in 8th-from-8th, minor trauma, commercial tax disregard [Budha Mahadasha] [age 55.2 until age 72.2] 09-May-1991 [SL age 57] grieved the decease of mother, Romilda Villani * Budha-Budha svabhukti * Budha rules 2nd-from-4 ++ dvadasa Sade-Sati
[Ketu Mahadasha] [age 72.2 until age 79.2] 10-Jan-2007 [SL age 72] [CP age 94]* grieved the decease of lifepartner Carlo Ponti * Ketu-Ketu svabhukti [Shukra Mahadasha] [age 79.2 until age 99.2]
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Salient features of the nativity
[Surya] pitri-karaka [father] jyoti-karaka [light] [svabhava] [homebound-anchoring bandesha for Urisha indriya-lagna] [applauded center of service ministry] [celebrated for offering assistance] [confident political analysis] [intelligent display of ailments and imbalanced conditions] [genius for expression of homeland character] [if with uchcha-Budha, fortune from speculative finance] ... [profitable-systematic Uttaraphalgunī-3] [navamsha Surya-Kumbha] intuitively confident populist entertainments [Surya-yuti-Budha-uchcha]
OUTCOMES - Surya [Surya in bhava-5] rules
Tabloid Press [3] Surya-yuti-Budha] camera, photographs, newspaper-magazine, cinema, dramatic scripting, tabloid press, SL career was built not only upon her cinematic drama skills and camera-ready face [2], but also upon the decades of tabloid press photo-stories featuring her enduring affair with Ponti, her glamorous Hollywood co-stars, her spectacular home near Roma, and her charming family life. SL's passionate marriage story [Shukra-2, love stories] caused a public furor among the proletarian audience of the 1950's and 1960's. [Surya in bhava-3] rules Simha Svamsha suggesting that
professional dramatics would be focused into cinema and modeling [3] rather than live theatre [5]. Also that the more enduring activity would be commerce, even while cinema-drama continued into her last decades. FATHER Dad = Riccardo Scicolone, a construction worker. [Surya-Kanya] rules-4, building. According to SL's autobiography, SL met her father a total of three times. Dad was the father of Sofia and her younger sister Maria. However, dad was married to another woman. Romilda, Sophia, and Maria were his extramarital family. In 1930's Italy, divorce was severely stigmatized, so Dad had little motivation to marry her mom. / Only three times / may be a media-promotional story, [Surya-yuti-Budha] Surya ruling 12th-from-self is a distancer, but not an annihilator. Surya also rules 7th-from-Chandra, albeit [Surya-Kanya] does occupy the mysterious and often camouflaged 8th-from-Chandra. More likely, the parents had an ongoing relationship which may have been veiled from their two daughters, in order to prevent gossip. pitristhāna ruled by [Guru in bhava-4] who intakes drishti of nicha-Kuja-1 would suggest that the parents had some deep emotional conflict -- since Guru is rogesha.
[Chandra] matrikaraka [mother] * garha-karaka [village] [busy-communicative bhratru-pati for Urisha indriya-lagna] ... [arranging-diplomatic Dhaniṣṭha-3] [navamsha [Chandra-Tula] intuitively sensitive adjusting arranging bargaining contracts alliances
OUTCOMES - CHANDRA [Chandra in classroom-10] public visibility, reputation - rules
MOTHER Mom = Romilda Villani [1910–1991] Many of SL's roles have a mother-daughter element, reflecting the influence of her aspiring-actress mother and SL need {Chandra] to play out the extraordinary tensions of MARRIAGE partnership emotional equity support expectations [7th-from-Chandra-10] lifepartnership 1-of-1 when SL = 16 ++ Ponti = 38, Carlo Ponti, a parent-figure 22 years her senior, entered her life
the extraordinary volatility of their early attempts to marry, plagued with government and ecclesiastical resistance [Makara] to their union, nourishingly fed the tabloid press
7th-from-Chandra = [nīcha-Kuja-yuti-Ketu] [1]
Rahu-Shukra bhukti* Shukra occupies 8th-from-Rahu [trickery]
Guru-Shani bhukti
[Chandra in classroom-7] seeks a caretaker spouse
[Guru in bhava-4] with no companion graha suggests only one husband, and he is dedicated to the provision of dwellings, vehicles, routines of life
OUTCOMES - CHANDRA CAREER - 10th-from-Chandra MOTHER MARRIAGE [Kuja] bhratru-karaka [brother] virya-karaka [virile] [nīcha] [balancing-bargaining yuvati-pati for Urisha indriya-lagna] [contemplative-imagining vyaya-pati for Urisha indriya-lagna] ... [class-conscious Aśleṣā-2] [navamsha Kuja-Makara-uchcha ] intuitively forward-pushing competitive corporate hierarchical champion [nicha-Kuja-yuti-Ketu]
OUTCOMES - MANGALA Maternal Grandmother SL was sent to her grandparents' home for safety during war years. It was a sadly common story among Italian women, their children starving and their houses bombed. It may have been a survival decision to resort to prostitution during the war. Mangala drishti into 6 during Mangala Mahadasha meant that SL had a dangerous, insecure childhood. Raised in poverty during the extremes of the losing side of WW-2, SL would have felt the conflict, both personally, and through emotional awareness of the turmoil afflicting her parents and grandparents.
In time of distress, SL's grandmother ran a private lounge that was popular with American GI's. Yet the one thing SL could do, even as a child in awful circumstances, was to charm and entertain. Yogakaraka Kuja rules 5-10 and Kuja sends drishti into Chandra-Shani-Rahu-7
CARETAKERS Part of her drive to succeed in her own way on her own terms is likely accountable to the tensions and undependable behaviors of her caretakers [Old Pathways Karkata]. Constant physical tension due to Shani-Makara-Draco-7 in mutual drishti with Mangala-Karkata-1 Although personally exhausting [Ketu] the public fixation [Aśleṣa-Kuja] on her emotionally expressive, sensual even primitive physique was enduring due to Shani-drishti into-1.
[Budha] jamayah-karaka [sibling] sandesha-karaka [message] shisya-karaka [student] [uchcha] [svakshetra] Putra-sukha yoga [collecting-evaluating dhanesha for Urisha indriya-lagna] [witty-creative vidya-pati for Urisha indriya-lagna] ... [dramatizing-displaying Chitra-1] [navamsha Budha-Simha] intuitively detailed logical description of theatrical process, politics, romance, creativity, children [uchcha-Budha-yuti-Surya]
OUTCOMES - BUDHA [Budha-Kanya] rules
[Guru] dhava-karaka [husband] bahuta-karaka [variety] [mysterious-initiatory randhresha for Urisha indriya-lagna] [friendly-gainful vriddhi-pati for Urisha indriya-lagna] ... [contractual-adjustable Chitra-3] [vargottamsha] [navamsha Guru-Tula]
OUTCOMES - GURU Ancestral palatial homesSL recounted that Carlo Ponti promised to buy her the most beautiful house in Italy. Their estate outside of Roma was photographed by the celebrity press, and SL declared her deep happiness there. Brihaspati's ruler [Shukra-2] located in 11th-from-4, Shukra brings profits from investment in lands and vehicles [Shukra] svadu-karaka [sweet] kalatra-karaka [wifely companion] [dikbala] [energizing-identifying lagnesha for Urisha indriya-lagna] [medicating-inimical rogesha for Urisha indriya-lagna] ... [analytical-strategic Pūrvaphalgunī- 2] [navamsha Shukra-Kanya-nicha] intuitively harmonizing exploitive unbalanced unfair contracts
OUTCOMES - SHUKRA [Shukra-Singha] = usually coppery skin + golden glowing appearance
[Shani] duro-karaka [endurance] * jara-karaka [Jahre, years] [svakshetra] [Yogakaraka doctrinal-guiding dharmesha for Urisha indriya-lagna] [Yogakaraka dutiful-exective karmesha for Urisha indriya-lagna] [class-concious conventional orthodox catechesis] [believes inthe rule of law-and-order] [maintains the orderly credenda] [old priesthood continues mandatory conformism] [lawfully governing patriarchs] [strict rules for bureaucratic regulation] [fear of weighty social philosophy] [dharmesha socially approved ideology] [karmesha leadership proceeds from ideological convictions] [pragmatic patronage of universities and temples] [philosophical understanding limited by social norms] [prefers older respected lawful religious teachings] [rigidly disciplined dogmatic responsible father] [father may impose orderly principled judgments upon the sangha] [father may be a presbyter, governor, director, professor of law, elite hierarch] ... [calculating-strategic Dhaniṣṭha-2] [navamsha Shani-Kanya] intuitively structured orderly lawful ministries of service [Atmakaraka endurance, stamina, maturity, dignity, lawfulness, scarcity, delays, respect for elders, regulations, normalcy, class-consciousness]
OUTCOMES - SHANI Extraordinary trouble with Church authorities. [Rahu] rajyalobha-karaka [ambition] picchala-karaka [slippery] [for Urisha indriya-lagna] [Rahu casts passionate drishti into 1-3-5] [passion for conventional beliefs] [seeks prestigious high-ranked patronage] [ideology of socially approved opportunity] [craves privilege of preaching on social norms] [over-reaching father may take risks in public reputation] ... [face-voice-finance Śrāvaṇa-2] [navamsha Rahu-Urisha-uchcha] intuitively over-reaching fascination with wealth, treasuries, luxuries, jewels
OUTCOMES - RAHU
[Ketu] kavandha-karaka [headless] chidra-karaka [gaping] vasana-karaka [vacuum] [for Urisha indriya-lagna] [disregards customary discourse conventions] [eccentric rhythms of administrative routines] [incoherent settlement planning] [empty patriotic announcements] [liberating abstract security discussions] [scattered defensive mentality] ... [transformative-evolutionary Pushya-4] [navamsha Ketu-Vṛścika-uchcha] [regenerating-secretive Pushya-4] [navamsha Ketu-Vrischika] [vargottamsha] [nicha-Mangala-yuti-Ketu]
OUTCOMES - KETU Two notable miscarriages preceding birth of two healthy sons During [Rahu Mahadasha] [age 9.6 until age 27.6], SL began fashion-modeling rather than high school. SL was almost constantly the prey of tabloid magazine paparazzi, Ketu themes of divorce, betrayal, and disregard for bourgeoise morality fueled her publicity engine. At a time of social change, the working class, tabloid-reading public was gripped by SL's relatable story of entrapment by outdated rules [nīcha-Mangala-yuti-Ketu] |
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