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Randhra Bhava-8 "the weird"; covering, discovery, clouded, occluded, occult Ayur * Mrityu * Niryana * Marana = 8th-from-any-lagna = 8th-from-Chandra cycles of self-destruction and rebirth |
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Things, people, assets, relationships, and ideas which suddenly, unaccountably disappear (Ketu) and then
suddenly, forcefully reappear (Mangala)
mysterious movements Discovery and Disguise -- Espionage cycles of self-destruction + rebirth destruction and re-creation ; eruption, explosion, excision, emergency The Unseen but suspected; The Unheard but intuited; The Unknown but sensed 9th counterclockwise from 4th = mother's father (one's own maternal grandfather) |
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Sudden, Forced Changes of Form Shock Turning of the Wheel of Death and Rebirth Cycles, Transformation , Catastrophe, Recycling , Hidden Wealth, Cosmetic Surgery, Sorcery, Sex Change, Tantra, Transformation, Death of Spouse, Wealth of the Dead (Inheritance), Truth suddenly revealed Secret knowledge and the conditions of death hidden treasure Non-transparent, non-accountable activities the tantrik sciences of penetration and effect of invisible forces (surgical medicine, homeopathy) psychic demand for re-birth Millennial cycles of death-and-rebirth , knowledge of transformative process, Healing confidential information, secrets, destruction and rebirth "The Cauldron" Secrets, life-span, emergencies: undisclosed sexuality, circumstances of death, healing, death of spouse or unexpected divorce, inheritance, insurance, tantra, sudden forced changes, hidden things, mysteries , confidences |
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- Jalal al-Din Rumi (1207-1273) translated by Coleman Barks |
Unmarked Boxes Don't grieve. Anything you lose comes round in another form. The child weaned from mother's milk now drinks wine and honey mixed. God's joy moves from unmarked box to unmarked box, from cell to cell. As rainwater, down into flower bed. As roses, up from ground. Now it looks like a plate of rice and fish, now a cliff covered with vines, now a horse being saddled. It hides within these, till one day it cracks them open Part of the self leaves the body when we sleep and changes shape. You might say, "Last night I was a cypress tree, a small bed of tulips, a field of grapevines." Then the phantasm goes away. You're back in the room. I don't want to make any one fearful. Hear what's behind what I say. Tatatumtum tatum tatadum. There's the light gold of wheat in the sun and the gold of bread made from that wheat. I have neither. I'm only talking about them, as a town in the desert looks up at stars on a clear night. |
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Environments of bhava-8: Kuja |
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BPHSCh. 11, Shloka 9 |
"Randhra Bhava indicates longevity, battle, enemies, forts, wealth of the dead, and things that have happened and are to happen (in the past and future births) and accidents." |
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Judge your success by what you had to give up in order to get it. |
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| www.etymonline.com = lemma for "weird": |
Old English
wyrd
"fate, destiny" (n.), lit.
"that which comes,"
from PIE *wert- "to turn, wind," (cf. Ger. werden, O.E. weoršan "to become"), from base *wer- "to turn, bend" (see versus). For sense development from "turning" to "becoming," cf. phrase turn into "become." |
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Vaman Shivaram Apte, Practical Sanskrit-English Dictionary, http://aa2411s.aa.tufs.ac.jp/~tjun/sktdic/ |
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"The sword without, and terror within, shall destroy both the young man and the virgin, the suckling also with the man of gray hairs." |
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Gospel of Matthew 10: 26-37 |
"So have no fear of them, for nothing is covered that will not be revealed, or hidden that will not be known. What I tell you in the dark, say in the light, and what you hear whispered, proclaim on the housetops. Do not fear those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Rather fear him who can destroy both soul and body." |
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Das/Behari re: bhava-8 |
"[Eighth] house denotes wills, legacies, chronic diseases, loss of wealth, extravagance, suits and quarrels, death, co-workers and occult matters. Planets occupying this house incline to an interest in Occult science ; if without a planet, life runs on conventional lines till the ruler receives strong aspects." |
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Forward Movement |
Vimshottari Periods of the L-8 may bring sudden and catastrophic changes of form: destruction of outdated identities, contact with the conditions of death, emergence of new levels of vitality, revitalization, and the blossoming of the seeds of rebirth. Randhra Bhava is a swabhava of Mangala, co-ruled by Ketu. bhava-8 and the lord of Randhra indicate one's capacity for energetic, vital rejuvenation and rebirth. In order to keep moving forward in life, one must periodically undergo cycles of radical (at the root) destruction of some attribute of the birth identity, followed by a reconstitution of the identity in a new form. Throughout many cycles of destruction and rebirth within a lifetime and across the samsaric path of lifetimes, the soul identity remains exactly the same. What changes is the external container: fleshly appearance, marital and professional status, family attachments, material wealth, and understanding of truth.
Like all things influenced by Mangala, matters of bhava-8 do frighten anti-change agent Shani. From Shani's perspective, the continuous destruction and rebuilding of randhra "the aperture" bhava is shockingly unstable socially, and seems to disregard all the material acquisitive human programming. However from an authentic spiritual perspective, Randhra Bhava is the great liberator, which shows a secret route out of the chronic repetition and fear-driven conformity of Shani and into the potential for New Life. Randhra stores the great mysteries of the grand cycles of life, in the form of an "open secret" that can be accessed by anyone who is scripted to push forward through the layers of safety and dread that Shani creates. It should be noted however that as 12th-from-9th, bhava-8 drains the life force away from orthodox religion. A tantriki is usually no friend to the pujari and the prieSaint Tantriki work away from the temple, in secret. Rebirth, like birth, must be accomplished essentially alone. Nonetheless this "dushthamsha" while unsettling to fixed relationships (it indicates the forced identity changes of widowhood and divorce) provides the greatest opportunity for "breakthrough" knowledge in this life. |
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| How to Expand Love: Widening the Circle of Loving Relationships by H.H. the Dalai Lama, translated and edited by Jeffrey Hopkins, p 22 |
External circumstances are not what draw us into suffering. Suffering is caused and permitted by an untamed mind. The appearance of self-defeating emotions in our minds leads us to faulty actions. The naturally pure mind is covered over by these emotions and troubling conceptions. The force of their deceit pushes us into faulty actions, which leads inevitably to suffering. We need, with great awareness and care, to extinguish these problematic attitudes, the way gathering clouds dissolve back into the sphere of the sky. When our self-defeating attitudes, emotions, and conceptions cease, so will the harmful actions arising from them. As the great Tibetan yogi Milarepa says, "When arising, arising within space itself; when dissolving, dissolving back into space." We need to become familiar with the state of our own minds to understand how to dissolve ill-founded ideas and impulses back into the deeper sphere of reality. The sky was there before the clouds gathered, and it will be after they have gone. It is also present when the clouds seem to cover every inch of the sky we can see |
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8th-from = cycles |
= Cycles of destruction and rebirth. The FORM of the essence of the house is systematically replaced. These cycles operate continuously during the lifetime. Each bhava transforms the bhava that is shad-ashtaka 6-8 fromit Sometimes these cycles are frighteningly catastrophic involving
Most of the time, these catastrophic upheavals occur in a psychologically intensive but still non-life-threatening fashion, for example:
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Vimshottari periods of L-8 generate the experience of "shock" due to the sudden and forceful emergence of a new identity.
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Mangala = success via Active Movement |
the native who can "roll with the punches" in a vital and vigorous style (Mangala) is positioned to enjoy surprising spiritual benefits consequent to the shocks.
Karaka "shocking" topics of bhava-8 triggered by the period of L-8 " Shock and Awe"
There is tremendous excitement and confirmation of the Divine force at work for one who can acknowledge the glory of transformation-in-action. |
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No Shani (fixed Material Forms), No Cry |
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8 = 2nd-from-7th = family of spouse, money of spouse, voice of the spouse, food of the spouse, face of the spouse, values of spouse, knowledge of spouse. Naturally, these matters are never fully known to the native . Particularly in matters of "food of the spouse" , periods of L-8 "The Discoverer" may reveal "sources of value and nourishment" for the spouse in terms of a private relationship which could be unsettling. 2nd-from-7th is not a balanced place; it is an active house, alive with change and upheaval. Should there be am unsettling secret in randhra bhava which is scheduled to be revealed in disharmonious circumstances+ L-8 periods therefore can potentially trigger a divorce. Fruits of 8 = 11th-from-8 = bhava-6 = dissolution of agreement. Previously unrecognized truths regarding the spouse may come to light during periods of L-8. The "hidden" dynamics which may suddenly emerge to motivate a cycle of death-and-rebirth include karaka matters of 2nd-from.
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Hidden relationships: |
L-8 does not necessarily signify hidden intrigue relationships of the spouse.
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Special note on Harsha Yoga: |
if L-8 occupies bhava-6 or bhava-12 at birth, the native will have persistent experience of conflict with spousal handling of money, spousal voice and mouth, the in-laws, etc. Yet due to Harsha Yoga these irritations become beneficial during periods of L-8. |
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Joint Assets: The Time, Money, and Creative Energy Invested in Partnership |
bhava-8 is the house of mysterious pooled assets. One invests money in a corporate stock or a government bond, but one cannot exactly know what financial fruit the investment will yield. One invests in a marriage partner, with all good intentions at the wedding, but who on that blessed day can know the to-be-revealed financial and moral behaviors of the spouse? Despite the careful negotiations of parents on both sides, what fresh bride or hopeful groom has a full understanding the family cultural values of the spouse's family? (2nd-from-7th = in-laws) What mother in childbirth, gripped in the intense pain of labor, is certain of a healthy outcome for the birth? In fact, it is a highly complex situation and everyone involved is watching very carefully for surprises, even in the most controlled hospital setting. These things are largely mysteries, and their outcome depends on conditions of the 8th house. Over time, the investment each spouse makes into the marriage is contained in bhava-8 the "joint assets of marriage". Is the spouse a strong contributor to the financial holding of the partnership?
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Joint Assets in Divorce: Recovery of Investment |
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Recovery of investment may arrive in the form of a divorce settlement such as alimony or a property allocation from the joint assets of the partnership.
Typically, the property accrued in the marriage is split in some way and the ex-spouses receive some "transformed" value.
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Emotional Assistance or Interference in Disposition of Joint Assets |
Check 8th-from-Chandra to verify one's emotional expectations and reactive behaviors in regard to joint assets of marriage.
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Shani as Lord or an empowered occupant of randhra bhava |
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Surprise and shock: money |
A profound change in social identity may result from sudden change in the size of the hoard.
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If bhava-5 is strong while bhava-8 is weak: |
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If bhava-8 is strong while bhava-5 is weak, |
the native will experience many profound and perhaps shocking changes in the periods of the L-8, but few of those changes will involve sudden winnings from games, nor will the changes unduly involve one's children. |
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If bhava-8 and bhava-5 are both strong and related in the nativity, |
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Open-close functions - including "sudden" open-close and "gradual" open-close. |
The perception of suddenness occurs when the native is unprepared or unguided during the event. The perception of sudden or shocking transformation may be converted into the perception of knowledgeable observance of the changes. This perceptual conversion is available through many varieties of tantric education. Tantra Tantra is the practice of perceptual transformation. Tantric education includes training in emergency medicine, trauma response, forensic science, midwifery, psychiatry, and tantrik healing, inter alia. There are also many other disciplines that specialize in tracking the movement of energy from One material forminto Another material form. there are many ways to manage human response to the turning of the wheel of birth and death. Matters of bhava-8 are inherently hidden from public view, but matters of bhava-8 are not inherently dangerous or frightening. the proper perspective on matters of bhava-8 is focused awareness and cautious intervention from a foundation of both instinct and skill. |
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Everyone has a "self-destructive" urge to action (Mangala). This desire for annihilation and rebirth is represented by bhava-8, randhra bhava. Whether the results of Randhra's "emergency" behavior are positive or negative in the lifetime, or whether the behavior is judged as positive or negative within one's culture of origin, depends on the characteristics of the house. he urge to self-destruction may manifest as a cycle of religious initiations that are consciously intended to destroy outdated layers of the ego-personality (8th-from-1st) and replace old structures with new identity. bhava-8 is the sthana of initiation and rebirth. If the graha in occupation and also the bhava pati are well-disposed, the native may enjoy a lifetime of tantric initiations which result in magnificent liberation from material attachments. the native may be judged a failure by those lacking eyes to see the value of such a profoundly transformative process. However for the native who does not cling to the past and who embraces the prospect of total destruction as the only possible condition of total rebirth, bhava-8 is a site of shocking transformation leading to magical empowerment. bhava-8 is co-ruled by Ketu and Mangala. This pair work reasonably well together: Ketu is the detacher and the distancer; while Mangala is the aggressive destroyer. They are agents of Lord Shiva's campaign to annihilate old worlds and create new worlds with every cycle of breath. One who is able to understand and appreciate this process may engage in a state of constant uncertainty and ongoing emergency in order to maximize the experience of "looking into Shiva's mouth" - where matters of birth and death, pain and pleasure, creation and destruction, exist in complete harmony and equality. In "Shiva's Mouth" there is no boundary between right and wrong nor between happiness and unhappiness. Few humans can tolerate the constant challenge to one's natural acquisitive tendencies which is represented by Randhra Bhava, but for those who can comprehend even a part of this "mystery" there is much value in the occurrences of sudden and catastrophic change which are enforced by periods of the planetary lord of Mrityu. Less desirable effects occur when the L-8 finds it way into a problematic angle. When the L-8 arises in bhava-6, the house of drug addictions, the native 's response to catastrophic change or the threat of it will manifest in self-destructive self-medication or conflict-ridden altercations with others. the native tends to get locked into long-term self-destructive conflict, particularly in marriage and contractual relationships, where the energy of Big Wheel Turning bring no resolution (nothing in bhava-6 will resolve within the currently lifetime!) but simply churns and churns. the native 's inner narrative says that one is "putting some strong energy [L-8] into crafting agreements" while in fact the core eighth-house energy is dedicated to destruction and rebirth - conflicts are destroyed through force and then reborn quickly! By contrast, a good situation may be predicted when the L-6, an agent of disagreement and imbalance, moves into Ayur bhava. Any graha which occupies bhava-8 will get caught in the relentless cycle of destruction-and-rebirth driven by Mangala and Ketu. The L-6 carries an agenda of debt, addiction, exploitation, and conflict which is quickly pulverized by the crushing Wheel of transformation, and the native can be predicted to live largely debt-free, unable to maintain grudges or long-lasting conflicts, free of harassment from police or military oppression, of generally good health, and no serious enemies. L-6 in 8th house is an indicator of "health, wealth and stealth". Similarly+ L-8 in bhava-12 churns up the imagination, fills the mind full of fantasies of terrifying destruction, and creates a constant threat of marital infidelity due to the inner urge to put some strong energy [L-8 ruled by Kuja is very sexual] into "private" relationships that are inherently adversarial to socially contracted marriage (bhava-12 = 6th-from-7th). the native interior imagery may wildly exagerate the terrible consequences of cyclic, advancing change. Dreams are disturbed by imagery of rapid destruction and re-creation. the native may die a restless death. [Example = Angelina Jolie. Her L-8 = Shani which is less dramatic, more constrained by duty.] By contrast+ L-12 in bhava-8 is a good thing. The listless, physically dissolving, swinging-bridge of vyaya bhava that conveys life-force energy away from the physical plane and moves it to the astral plane, is destroyed-and-rebuilt a thousand million times when L-12 enters Mrityu bhava. the native 's creative imagination is harnessed to the service of world transformation, and one may become involved in international (12) change (8) movements. "Backwash" outflow of the physical energy into the astral plane is stopped although not reversed; instead, the imagery of the subconscious mind (12) is directed toward energizing the tantric and magical life processes. Directed by spirit guides, one becomes imaginatively engaged in numerous initiations. [ Steve Jobs, om Cruise] he graha must indeed be of good quality for such a nativity to yield mastery of the tantric disciplines (for example, the guides can be improperly motivated if the lord is corrupt). Nevertheless, the overall benefit of converting L-12's dissolving tendencies into fuel for the sudden-change engine is that the physical vitality increases, and extra-marital impulse is much reduced (not entirely reversed, but largely directed into secret initiations.) Whichever graha occupy bhava-8 become fuel for the Kuja-Ketu magical-transformation engine of hidden and secret tantric processes in the human consciousness. Will the native become a victim of this process or an instigator of it? A long-lived and wise magician, or a tragic childhood death? A brilliant surgeon or psychiatrist? An attorney of wills and estates? Or a sorcerer, caster of curses, agent of superstitious fear and petty control? Will "self-destructive" urges be recognized as healing transformations, or will the native and-or his culture adjudge such behaviors to be undesirable? Answers to these queries will be found in the character of any graha in occupation of Mrityusthana and in the placement of the notorious L-8. |
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Shani in Ayur bhava: Difficulties of adversarial Shani in the house of Mangala-Ketu |
One graha who is naturally unwelcome in bhava-8 is the natural adversary of both Ketu and Mangala: the lord of "anti-change" Shani. The portfolio of Shanaiscarya includes all activities of resistance to change, such as retardation, restriction, containment, fixation, laws, orderly processes and protocols, caution, conservation, and the "finality" of death. There is of course nothing "final" about physical death, which is simply a phase of transformation of identity as the native 's consciousness disconnects from the physical body and reattaches itself to a more active affiliation with the astral body (soul). The turning of the cycle of life and death is endless. When Shani occupies bhava-8 there is great resistance to death, a fear of the turning of the cycle, and thus the native is prevented from getting out of bondage of attachment to the physical body for an extended period of time. Shani in bhava-8lengthens the physical lifetime. Typical cause of death is "old age". |
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Shani in Ayur bhava: Social judgment |
Shani = karakatwa for "society" which is the expression of what Carl Jung called the "collective unconscious".
Kuja the warrior and Surya the king represent the individual whereas Shani represents society, the law, and the group.
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Shani in Ayur (age) bhava: Resistance to Death = Longevity |
When evaluating a nativity with Shani in bhava-8, it may be tempting to happily proclaim "ah, here is Shani in Mrityusthana, you will have a long life!" as if that were some variety of great benefit to the native . It is not.
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Resistance to childbirth, fear of new life |
Women with Shani in bhava-8may have a terror of childbirth with its pain, transformation, and emergence of new life. A woman will never be the same after childbirth.
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Shani in Ayur bhava: Elderly and Socially Established, |
the native prefers the company of the elderly and those with established social position, not due to snobbery, but because these companions pose no threat to Shani's carefully constructed defensive walls against sudden and unmanageable change.
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Opening the Dragon Gate. (1998). Chen Kaiguo, Zheng Shunchao, Thomas F. Cleary; Tuttle Pub. |
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Madhya Parashari, Ch. 9 , Shloka 8 |
"From the eighth house, know about private parts and their diseases, longevity, etc." |
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How to read the L-8:
B. V. Raman, A Catechism of Astrology, p. 91 |
"The lord of 8, wherever he stands or whatever he aspects, destroys the effect of the house He occupies or the planet He aspects.
... If the lord of 8 is strong and occupies a dushthamshaevil effects will be greater. In this way, read the effects of the lord of 3, 6, 8, and 12." |
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The astrological picture of hidden matters, conditions of death, and healing powers is expanded by noting: |
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bhava-8 and L-8 indicate longevity. They indicate the circumstances of death, but not the timing of death. (Timing of death is known by the periods of L-2 and L-7 from lagna. ) Lagna ("line") can be the lagna for any person, e.g.,
A few longevity rules:
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It is always good therefore when dushthamsha lords occupy house-8
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bhava-8 represents the core life process of destruction and reconstitution. his is a level of consciousness to which few are invited and even fewer attend. bhava-8 rules dramatic moments of the turning of the wheel of birth and death. In these moments, one life-force container isdestroyedand the life force moves - by nature or through tantric controlled direction - into the next container or form. The "emerging" of the life force - caught in the moment between leaving its old container and entering its new form, is the essence of bhava-8. When any graha occupies randhra sthana, the matters of his house are apparentlydestroyed. Actually, the matters of the house are Transformed, but unless we observe the entire cycle it certainly looks like destruction. he destructive force of house-8 can be a very good thing if a dushthamsha lord occupies house-8, where the negative effects of the dushthamsha lord do get ruined. In general, "bad planets in bad houses give good results". For example, when L-6 poverty, debt, conflict, disease] in house-8 = all those nasty things are destroyed. Barring other restrictions, the native may become very wealthy, because debt is destroyed. Their health is generally quite good, because the disease lord is annihilated in house-8. Similarly, their relationships will tend to be balanced and tolerant, even without good planets in house-7, because the conflict and animosity lord has been transformed into a healing agent. There is little contact with police and their tax situation is very favorable. L-12 in house-8 similarly is beneficial. L-12 gives "losses on good account" such as charitable donations, time spent meditating and not earning money, spiritual pilgrimages which deplete the native 's social and financial resources, alienation, excess of imagination such as "living in one's head". L-12 in randhra bhava = L-12 in 9th-from-swakshetra, which brings good dharma. the native is not harmed by long journeys, but rather his/her career and social standing are advanced through contact with exotic lands and foreign religions. Meditation time bears financial fruit - often because the native learns thereby psychic skills for creating wealth through imagination, rather than through material effort. (House-8 is the seat of Tantra.) L-12 ruling "loss of ego" normally depletes the native 's "cultural capital" by causing him to live as an alien in foreign lands, where his appearance is unattractive and his habits misunderstood. However with L-12 in house-8, native's long journeys enhance his identity in his homeland and raise his esteem in foreign lands. S/he will often with this yoga return as a traveler to ancient lands where s/he had been in the priesthood, in past lives. Good fortune through foreign things. Auspicious houses are deeply damaged when their lord occupies a dushthamsha. L-7-in-house-8 is famous for destroying the life of the spouse. It may cause death or divorce (psycho-emotional death) but this situation is always perilous for marriage, and usually signifies remarriage after great effort expended in the first marriage - to no avail. L-10 in house-8 can be gainful because randhrastana is 11th-from-10th, but the career will lack prestige and the native will suffer repeated cycles of transformative destruction in their work. (Excellent position for all healers: surgeons, psychiatrists/psychologists, archeologists, massage therapists, etc.) L-1 in house-8is rather dangerous, reducing longevity and causing affiliation with emergency scenes. The physical body undergoes constant and vigorous cycles of destructive-constructive transformation and rebirth. Physical appearance has attributes of several ethnicities or the person is psycho-emotionally allied with conflicting, unresolved cultural messages. The cultural identity is very difficult to establish firmly; being constantly reinterpreted and redefined. This is frequently a birth in tribal or cultural peoples who are being redefined in their greater society. the native becomes a bridge for his people, although his own identity is permanently unstable. Can be a brilliant healer but is often "used up" in the cultural transition process. Periods of L-8 = shock and trauma, forced initiation; a rapidly destructive-creative process; usually an experience of death recycle rebirth which does not require destroying the body, but after a certain number of cycle-spins the physical form will be destroyed to create a new birth |
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Hidden Truths of the Cycle of Birth and Death |
The eighth radix house contains a vast amount of "hidden" information regarding the timing of the cycle of birth and death. Randhra is a quintessentially Tantrik (secret book) house. Randhra contains the profile of one's Taboo activities and Healing powers of all kinds, but especially Sexual healing. It is a dangerous, unpredictable, exciting, and mysterious location on the astral plane which produces massive subconscious currents - both personal and collective - that periodically rise to the surface. |
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Hiding Behaviors |
Graha in bhava-8 signify hiding and secrets. The core image of randhra bhava is the tantrik hunter, moving cautiously through the thick forest, alert to hidden energies which may suddenly emerge at any moment. The outcome of the hunter's awareness could lead to a successful capture, or it could protect one from surprise attack. In any case, graha in bhava-8 must pay profound attention to the Unseen. Graha in bhava-8 either hide things, or are hidden, or both. |
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Mysterious and Undiagnosable Diseases - Chaos and Recovery |
Periods of L-8 can induces mysterious diseasesor ill-health conditions, which are very difficult to diagnose. Often the condition is "life threatening" -- yet within the period of L-8 the native recovers. For the duration of the period of L-8, the native experiences sudden body changes running Out of control. he body changes may be subtle or dramatic overall but there are always some dramatic peaks.ypically, no medical or psychological intervention succeeds in curing the problem.However the condition will be healed during the period of L-8. Periods of L-8cause a turning of the cycle of birth and death. he result on the material plane is a temporary physicalweakening due to the deep changes which are happening in the more subtle levels or origination (causal, astral, etheric etc.) during this time. After a life-threatening illness or accident which has been suddenly healed, the native may comprehend that in some sense one has died and been reborn. |
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"The Job Interview" |
A mathematician, an accountant and an economist apply for the same job. The interviewer calls in the mathematician and asks "What do two plus two equal?" The mathematician replies "Four." The interviewer asks "Four, exactly?" The mathematician looks at the interviewer incredulously and says "Yes, four, exactly." Then the interviewer calls in the accountant and asks the same question: "What do two plus two equal?" The accountant says, "On average, four -- give or take 10%, but, on average, four." Then the interviewer calls in the economist and poses the same question: "What do two plus two equal?" The economist gets up, locks the door, closes the shade, sits down next to the interviewer, and says, "What do you want it to equal?" |
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Sometimes this initiation-transformation experience is entirely psychological (depending on the ruling graha). More frequently, the experience is specifically physical, and one has the sense of a "narrow escape" from death or a "new lease on life" after a catastrophic upheaval of body, mind, and spirit. |
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L-8 is a timing agent for death of the spouseand/or divorce. (The variety of divorce wherein the spouse is effectively if not physically dead.) In the case of death or divorce of the spouse, the mandate for profound change in all of the interconnected particulate levels of being will begin quite high up in the chain of events, with divorce occurring as a trickle-down effect. During periods of L-8, all levels of being need to be transformed. If cataclysmic movementis required at the social level, death of spouse or divorce may occur as a form of extreme disruption of the habitual psycho-social behaviors. Naturally there are physical consequences following this upstream disruption,including emotional chaosand associated illnesses. Also if the process is successful one may feel reborn. After an L-8 period of near annihilation, the native slowly regains control of the physical body. The outcome = a different and more subtle attunement to spiritual awareness. he nature of the conditions of near-death or severe and mysterious illness or accident will be found in the characteristics of L-8. Accident is more likely if Rahu is involved. |
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For Thula lagnaand Mesha lagna+ L-8 = lagnesha. For Thula and Mesha nativities, periods of the L-8 often provide surprising"initiation"experiences which require the breakdownof some rigid, outdated habit structures in the physical body in order to permit flow of higher energies from above. Certain when the period of L-8 is either the first bhukti of a mahadasha, or the final Vimshottari period of a mahadasha, the "sudden, forced change" pattern is more vivid.
The illness or sustained debility or accidental violence (particularly for Mesha lagna) may be quite frighteningdue to its shocking severity or mysterious nature. However these initiation-transformations last only for the duration of the period of L-8. They should be understood as "sudden, forced change" in the structure of the physical form which is necessary to facilitate the flow of kundalini energy from higher particulate levels. |
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Emergencies Physical, Mental, Emotional, and Spiritual |
Randhra profiles the emergence of subconsciously stored reactive patterns. As such it is the house of Emergencies. Physical "emergence" such as birth is a specialty of Randhra. We see the great midwives, surgeons, emergency physicians, paramedics, triage nurses, etc. all displaying strength in Randhra Bhava. (Usually also with an empowered Kuja.) Mental and emotional emergence is here, as are the great psychiatrists, charismatic healers, and a multitude of therapists. Spiritual emergence in particular is the most fascinating "peak" content of Randhra bhava. Here we find the great Tantric practitioners, Magicians, shamana, and spirit channelers are primarily found in connection with vyayabhava. |
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Spiritual Emergence = Essence of bhava-8
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"If we accept that liberation is possible, how exactly is it to be understood? In the scriptures, liberation is characterized in terms of four features.
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Stock market fluctuations, Taxes, other unpredictable cyclical financials = Sacrificial Transformation Taxes |
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Matthew 22:15-22 (New International Version ) |
"Then the Pharisees went out and laid plans to trap him in his words. They sent their disciples to him along with the Herodians.
But Jesus, knowing their evil intent, said,
They brought him a denarius, 20 and he asked them,
Caesar's, they replied. Then he said to them,
When they heard this, they were amazed. So they left him and went away. " |
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2nd-from any house also indicates the "dhana" or wealth of that house. 2nd-from-7th profiles the wealth of the first spouse.
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esp loss of identity, loss of religious orthodoxy, loss of professorship or priestly credentials |
Long, global journeys "for philosophically educational purposes" are profiled in dharma bhava. As 12th-from-9th, Randhra bhava displays the dissolution of ego attachment, tendency to wander, under-the-table dealings, and other loss of connections with the healthy material world which are the characteristics of the 12th house.
If one's long journey is authentically spiritual pilgrimage, during which you are consciously soliciting experiences of detachment and ego-dissolution, one might discover some hidden spiritual benefits to such difficulties as one may encounter on one's travels. In such a case where overtly spiritual objectives dominate the journey, a conscious person might willingly undertake Tapasya(austerities) in order to burn off karma of past mistakes. As always in Jyotisha, there is no inherently good or bad situation. The key to happiness is correct motivation. |
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| Father | Any graha in 8, even benefics, are harmful to the father. 8 = 12th-from-9th, and that which is 12th-from naturally must drain the vitality of the bhava immediately ahead of it. So, graha in 8 will in one way or another initiate the dissolution of the vitality of the father. The nature of the graha in 8, if any, will reveal the self-dissolving proclivities of the father, such as meditation habits, bedroom practices, distant travel, and occasionally less becoming activities associated with clandestine environments such as smuggling. For example Shukra in 8 of the daughter's nativity might suggest that her father had a love interest who (perhaps in a very pleasant way) slowly drained the life force out of dad. Shani in 8 shows the father's imagination cramped by heavy realism and work duties; Mangala in 8 displays forward motion to the point of aggressiveness in his private behaviors. Ketu in 8 indicates that the father may be scattered along a path of pilgrimage, or lost his identity in a foreign land (for example when serving as a soldier in war in a country where he could not speak the local language and felt lost.) Strictly for the purpose of father's vitality, it is better if there are no graha in 8. However for the native graha in 8 can be helpful in various self-destruction and rebirth scenarios. If the lagnesha occupies randhrasthana, it might be necessary for the native to undergo many transformations in this lifetime, including some upheavals which involve losses for the father. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Maternal great grandfather and paternal great grandmother |
mother's father's father [maternal great grandfather] = 9th-from-9th-from-4th = your randhra bhava, 8th house father's father's mother[paternal great grandmother] = 4th-from-9th-from-9th = your randhra bhava, 8th house Gain insight into their psychic influence upon you by understanding the mystical perceptions and healing powers you own through your randhra bhava. Generally these important relatives have left their bodies before or during our childhoods, but they continue to exercise guiding influence throughout our lives. |
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Ayur bhava rules all
types of insurance and the modern insurance industry as a whole. Persons
working in some aspect of the insurance business will have some prominent
astrological connection to the eighth house through the professional houses 7
and 10.
Timing
of matters connected to insurance will depend on the behavior of the 8th
lord.
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The main value of inheritance from one's parents how the native handles sudden, secret, transformative, catastrophic changes self-destructive behavior: spiritual release of ego attachments, or collapse of social identity? (interpretation must be combined with the natal conditions of bhava-8, 8th-from-Chandra, drishti etc.)
KujaKetu
L-8 in 12 bhava randhra-8
death conditions8th-from angles to 12 sthanaRandhra
Bhava BPHS8th from chandra
Inheritance
Identity: destruction and rebirth of the life force container
Magical empowerment
Conditions of Death
As a general rule, the randhrapati causes sudden, forces changes wherever He goes. The eighth lord is only superficially destructive. What He is really doing is taking the essential energy from One physical container, and moving it into a new physical container.
The eighth lord carries behaviors of " emergency", " sudden movement", and "hidden forces". Kuja is a hunter and He tracks the mysterious movements of the animals whose very bodies will be - if captured and killed - transformed into food. Animal killing and regeneration of human life through animal meat is a harsh reality, but the human species is largely chained to it. Even in vegetarian cultures the movement of life force through the plant kingdom is shocking and mysterious. Sometimes the food is there - sometimes it is not. Many secret signs and omens must be observed if the human wishes to have a steady rejuvenating supply of food. emergencies, disasters, secret instructions, confidential information, privileged information, transformative process, insider knowledge, psychology, detection, digging, drilling, plunging, plumbing, mining, penetration, emergence, surgery, excavating, discoveries, revelation, rejuvenation, reconstruction |
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The Seen, the Inferred, and the Hidden Consciousness at the Crossroads: Conversations with the Dalai Lama on Brain Science and Buddhism edited by Zara Houshmand, Robert B. Livingston, and B. Alan Wallace |
"In Buddhism we speak of three types of phenomena: First, there are evident phenomena that are perceived directly. Second, there are slightly hidden phenomena, which are not accessible to immediate perception. There are differences of opinion on this even within Buddhist philosophy. Generally speaking, we think this second type of phenomena can be known indirectly by inference.
Third, there are very concealed phenomena, which cannot be known by either of the two preceding methods. They can be known only by relying upon testimony of someone such as the Buddha." |
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| (Taxes) |
When government-funded NASA first started sending up
astronauts, they quickly discovered that ball-point pens would not work in
zero gravity.
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H. H. Dalai Lama. (2003) Getting Control over Wild Thoughts |
"Why is it that we don't succeed in enjoying the lasting happiness that we are seeking?
Buddhism explains that our normal state of mind is such that our thoughts and emotions are wild and unruly, and since we lack the mental discipline needed to tame them, we are powerless to control them.
And thoughts and emotions, in their turn, tend to be controlled by our negative impulses rather than our positive ones. We need to reverse this cycle, so that our thoughts and emotions are freed from their subservience to negative impulses, and so we ourselves, as individuals, gain control of our own minds." |
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