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BPHS Chandra Mahadasha

  1. Chandra in bhava-1
  2. Chandra in bhava-2
  3. Chandra in bhava-3
  4. Chandra in bhava-4 * digbala
  5. Chandra in bhava-5
  6. Chandra in bhava-6
  7. Chandra in bhava-7
  8. Chandra in bhava-8
  9. Chandra in bhava-9
  10. Chandra in bhava-10
  11. Chandra in bhava-11
  12. Chandra in bhava-12
Krishana

Soma

in Randhra Bhava-8

Moon in the Eighth House


healer * destroyer

familiar (Chandra) to the hidden forces (8)

reactive rhythms; emergency response

emotional sensitivity to hidden, veiled needs

comfortably settled, nested, habituated to familiar rhythms of sudden upheaval, discovery, confidences, hidden assets, emergency, disaster, identity change.

Secrets of the Mother.

Chandra Mahadasha and Chandra bhukti Chandra periods generate emotional experiences characterized by Chandra's temporal bhava-8. The steady, rhythmic, ritualized, repeating-cycle of feelings = centered in an emotional need to engage with hidden wealth or knowledge on the expectation that controlling hidden social or material resources will result in more emotional control.

One may feel buffeted by the waves of the needs of others, and called to care for those who might not respond to one's offering of nourishment and shelter.

Chandra periods are generally placid, albeit there may be an underlying narrative of emotional urgency. One may feel compelled to react to the hidden forces which one senses are just below the surface and ready to erupt. The bhava ruled by Chandra anchors the type of social activity and the material outcome.

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Chandra in Mesha


Chandra in Vrishabha * uttama * mulatrikona 4-30

Chandra in Mithuna


Chandra in Karkata


Chandra in Simha


Chandra in Kanya


Chandra in Thula


Chandra in Vrischika * nichha


Chandra in Dhanusha

  • Prince of Monaco Albert Grimaldi+ Shani = tragic death of his mother Princess Grace Kelly


Chandra in Makara


Chandra in Kumbha


Chandra in Meena

Profound need for secrecy and hidden identities.

Emotional instinct to nurture confidences and bonds formed by hidden matters.

  • Splendid placement for executive secretary, assistants to diplomats, private counselors, protectors of undisclosed or "classified" information.

Chandra-8 may "secretize" and "mystify" experiences, information, and relationships which others may perceive as neither mysterious nor secret.

  • Emotionally identified with shamanistic, tantric, surgical, revolutionary, and transformative healing processes.

  • Exceptionally sensitive to sudden eruptions of force, cycles of identity change, and perceived secrets

Yet Chandra-8 is often trapped in the 'wounded healer' psychology, constantly recycling old traumatic injuries (8) and revisiting the suffering of the past (Chandra).

Bhava-8 = Sudden, mysterious, unexpected movement

Emotionally attached to the partner's family (2nd from 7th)

Native is emotionally oriented toward secrecy, and may be a compulsive keeper of secrets.

Sudden, forced changes in the mother's life conditions.

Secret sexual and emotional relationships.

Needs to keep one's emotional life hidden.

When highly evolved, an exceptional tantric healer.


Due to overstimulation of Mangala. Chandra-8 = constantly renovating the emotional foundations.

Ever moving toward a new identity.

In pursuit of self-redefinition, Chandra-8 may embark on several iterations of the quest for Self. One may obtain numerous diplomas, certificates of specialty training, professional careers, marriages. Homes (Chandra) are bought and sold as one moves restlessly from one region to another.


Reactive Emotion: Crisis Intervention "Butting In"

Emotionally, Chandra-8 feels rhythmically comfortable when reacting to emotional crisis. If no crisis exists naturally, in order to feel more comfortable, Chandra-8 may search for opportunity to provoke an urgent need to intervene. Chandra-8 may seek emotional validation by manipulating the environment to stimulate an emergency situation. Chandra-8 feels uncomfortable when the environment is too placid.

Chandra-8 is a natural agent of emotional drilling, plunging, plumbing, pursuing, excavation, discovery, recovery, uncovering, exploring.

Thus a splendid placement for psychotherapists, criminal detectives, and nosy people in all walks of life. Superbly calming and protective personality in *authentic* emergencies.

Very dynamic, urgent, energized "reactive intervention" behaviors when Chandra occupies a nakshatra of Mangala = Mrigashirsha, Chitra or Dhanishtha. Habituated to upheavals.


Comforter in Death Environments

Comfortable, calm, and at ease in environments which signify the Conditions of Death. Habitually protective and soothing in moments that produce emotional extremes of sudden upheaval, such as agonizing fear and terrible grief.

For Chandra-8, the more terrible, the better. Thus a splendid placement for anyone in the death-facilitator's role such as triage nurse, battlefield medic, palliative caregiver, funeral specialist, extreme unction priest delivering rites (Chandra) of death.

Chandra-8 are the "crisis junkies" of modern business culture and the "intervention" enthusiasts in social work specialties and healing professions.

When Chandra-8 finds a publically approved therapeutic expression for their natural need for emergency intervention, their ability to "sense unseen needs" and to provide calm comforting protective shelter to those in radical transition can be greatly rewarded.

Outside of the intensive sudden-response realm however, others may find Chandra-8 emotional style to be nosy, intrusive, melodramatically reactive, or even threatening.


Space Invaders

Chandra-8 may not be able to detect conventional psychic identity boundaries of others because their own boundaries are so fluid and move so suddenly. Thus Chandra-8 may acquire the reputation of a meddler, an agent of interference and disturbance, or an over-reactive member of the neighborhood, family, corporation, sahangha, or team.


Self-concept

Much of human self-concept derives not from others' opinions but rather from one's own feeling about oneself. The inner voice may speak in a language of emotional truth that reinforces the self-image in a way that is internally consistent and not defined by others.

In Jyotisha, it is understood that Chandra establishes this profoundly foundational sense of intuitive self-identity; and part of the character of Soma's non-rational inner voice is determined by the bhava in which Soma resides.

Chandra-8 = a hidden, occult, masked emotional placement. One may serve as a protective, sustaining figure in 8th-angle identity-transforming locations such as surgical operating rooms, confidential information files, tantric training grounds, disaster sites, hidden vaults, secret caches, gender-changing environments and extramarital affairs.

Chandra's karaka roles as caretaker, nurturer, parent and provider of shelter are often cherished in secret. However, bhava-8 like all of the moksha-bhava = a releasing place not a retaining place. The public rarely sees the occult identity of one's 8th bhava.

The public - including one's own family, friends, co-workers, fellow religious congregants and citizens - are much more likely to recognize the features of one's kama, artha, and dharma bhava.

In the deepest recesses of the hidden identity, Chandra-8 may think of oneself as a dedicated parent, steady and reliable family provider, a guardian of lands and protector of the weak... yet others may find this self-image thickly masked.

In the emotional core, one identifies as an emotionally sensitive person who sympathetically acts to protect and shelter others. Chandra-8 may feel surprised that others do not understand their sensitivity. In fact, due to its emotional tendency toward sudden impulsive intervention and emergency reactivity (8), Chandra-8 can be perceived as insensitive, secretive, and controlling. Hurt feelings and confusion may accompany the gap between the interior view and public definition.

  • King of England, 1509-1547 Henry VIII Tudor may have seen himself as defending Britain's right to control its national resources and protecting of the English way of life. Yet after his death, when the full evidence of his actions was revealed, history has judged him largely as a spendthrift, murderer, and glutton.


For the purposes of the present incarnation, the sources of emotional well-being (8) have been arranged in a state of disagreement (6) with the sources of physical well-being (1 = 6th-from-8th).

Further, the the sources of emotional well-being (8) have been designed to promote sudden, transformative changes (8) in the sources of mental well-being (3 = 8th-from-8th).

Thus Chandra-8 is distinguished by a nearly constant emotional cycle of psycho-emotional self-destruction and rebirth.

In childhood, the mother is prone to emotional outbursts (8).

Throughout adulthood, the rhythmic patterns of life (Chandra) often include events of violent shock and upheaval which profoundly affect not only the emotional state but also radically impact the physical life-force (typically, a vigorous but shortened lifespan) .

If the higher consciousness is developed in this lifetime, a preternatural intuitive awareness of impending disaster may often protect (Chandra) the lifestyle and livelihoods of human settlements (4, Chandra).

  • in 2004, Guru Ammachi became intuitively aware of an imminent lethal tsunami and directed her community to safety


Chandra-8 may appear to be emotionally unstable, yet the placement is deeply creative as the native has access to rich stores of occult (8) intuition (Chandra).

As always with the super-impressionable Lord Chandra, the outcome must factor in the character of the dispositor of randhra-sthana.

Emotionally most comfortable in environments such as:

  • the medical surgery; working with secrets or unknowns in any setting; rebirth, rejuvenation, renovation, reconstruction;

  • in the emergency room of a hospital; in disaster services; receiving dangerous, confidential information; manipulating the great unseen life-energy forces

  • hidden wealth management, tax-shelters, secret treasuries

  • tantriki Chandra-8 may exhibit secretive behavior.

Perhaps a noticeable gap between public facade and private activities.

In a hidden environment, Chandra-8 may engage with frightening or forbidden conditions.

Life provides a habitual pattern of frequent upheaval, contact with the conditions of death and rebirth;

many changes of life conditions followed by periods of rejuvenation and recovery from shock

In redemption religions,

  • Chandra-8 needs to be frequently "saved" and born again"

Strong emotional attachment to secret relationships and hidden wealth. Emotional need for mystery, healing and transformation.

Matter's of Chandra's house are subject to sudden upheaval and destructive change.

To have Soma's portfolio radically, even catastrophically, destroyed during the lifetime is indeed Viparita Raja Yoga (Sarala) for Simha lagna and Kumbha lagna,where Soma = L-6 and L-12.

For Simha and Kumbha lagna Soma-randhrasthana = a boost up.

Special benefits for "disease destroyer" Soma-8 for Kumbha lagna (e.g., Deepak Chopra) where major obstacles from Aristhana, such as enemies, conflicts, debts, and disease, are intuitively destroyed.


Parents

The identity of one's parents - esp the mother - may be kept secret. Chandra-8 = a common placement in the nativities of children who were adopted with sealed documents or no documents at all. Also a common placement for persons living with an occluded identity.

The hidden identity of the birth parents is an important part of the native 's development plan.

Interestingly, even when the identity of one's parents is revealed to oneself or others may also know, it is possible for the native 's own tantrik reasons that one makes an effort to prevent public discovery of these facts.

  • Apple Computer Steve Jobs the computer designer and showman was famously adopted as an infant. Chandra = L-12 and he wished to live as privately as possible. Thus the identity of his birth parents remained an occult fact for a long time. In addition he became himself a parent as a young bachelor, and kept the fact of his parenthood secret for many years.


The main trouble with Chandra in randhra bhava is that one ABSORBS the shocks of life's sudden, forced changes into oneself. One feels considerable emotional pressure to maintain a veil of mystery around one's hoard of confidential knowledge. This becomes a problem when the secret knowledge needs to be released, or when the ethics of the situation demand honesty and full disclosure.


Transformation can be gentle or violent, according to the consciousness of the nativity overall. This native craves deep and profound change.

  • Tantrik (trans-form-ative) orientation capable of moving entire classes of beings from one energetic stage into the next

Soma in Bhava-8 may produce profound healers who can move an individual or small group from one life stage into the next, e.g. death healers. Natural transformers of thoughts, landscapes, and identities..

Some attraction to sorcery. Intuitive awareness of the cycles of re-in-carn-ation. Personal life always tumultuous because the Moon wants emotional stability and these natives are marked as agents of profound and constant change.

Energized by always-moving Mangala, men and women who are born with Chandra in Bhava-8 are much constrained emotionally by Shani's strictures; thus they have characteristically little patience with fear and often blast through (Kuja) the walls of social taboo.


Chandra-8 healing= need to be surrounded by healers. If the native becomes a professional healer, or is born into a lineage of physicians, this need can be met by friendly association. Yet the default path is to experience ongoing psycho-somatic illness, which attracts physicians of all traditions, who may give conflicting medical advice. Karaka for iatrogenic disease.

Chandra-8 = a deep intuitive attraction to medical healing esp. surgery, but one must be cautious to obtain the proper training and comprehend the rational element of medicine.

The training issue is always a concern with 8th-house graha because Bhava-8 is the house of loss of the temple, which means that the native does not have direct access to the conventional university or priestly lineage training. There is a need to psychically attract a non-traditional teacher or guru.

Most of the negative implications are cancelled if Chandra = L-12. For Simha lagna, Moon in Bhava-8 is a beneficial placement esp. for a trained physician..

Disagreement, disappointment, emotional servitude

When Chandra occupies Bhava-8, the most difficult house emotionally becomes 6th-from-8th = Tanu bhava = physical body, social personality, fleshly appearance.

Bhava-1 may become the site of affective difficulties due to disagreements within one's own body and regarding one's social personality. The native is rarely comfortable (Chandra) in one's own body, and emotionally-based disease conditions which manifest in the flesh body may be difficult to understand because of their "secret" psycho-emotional causes rooted in Chandra-8.

During its Vimshottari periods, the lagnesha may produce conditions of emotional servitude.

  • The physical appearance = a particular source of that problem of disappointment, frustration with inferior results, or exploitative overwork. the native is often ill, due to an emotionally adversarial relationship to one's own body.

  • Often a ragged appearance, with the bedraggled or unbalanced appearance expressing the internal conflicts. Can be corrected by nice graha in the lagna.

Mother (Soma)

The man will experience his mother as a sexual person much earlier than children normally notice. He sees her powers because he is psychically attuned to secret powers at birth, and the first power he notices is in the aura of the mother.

The mother may have lovers or the parents are not afraid to show the child some of their sexual energy. (BTW this Moon does not indicate child abuse, rather it signifies child's heightened magical awareness.)

The child gains early knowledge of sexual healing and the cycle of birth and death; having this knowledge, one both loves and fears women.

Chandra-8 is perhaps the most difficult placement for Soma.

  • Chandra-6 = an ill mother or one trapped in poverty or servitude;

  • Chandra-12 gives a distant mother or one hidden from view .

  • Chandra-8 produces a mother who is unpredictable and subject to sudden, catastrophic change of personality.

Relationships

Joint Assets of Marriage:

females contribute wealth into the joint accounts. Both native and spouse have an emotional predisposition to build financial security for the marriage.

Divorce Settlement:

Moon gives the reflection of other strong graha. Depends entirely on Chandra's house and the L-8.

Often the child becomes so habituated to sudden and violent changes in relationships that according to deep expectations they act preemptively sabotage their unions, causing a chronic cycle of intense desire for nurturing followed by catastrophic breakups.

  • "Lights Out" balladeer Lisa Marie Presley also married

  • four times by the age of 36, presumably due to the preemptive cycle

Chandra-8 tends to develop secretive relationship patterns -- relationships both to people and to money.

Women are often attracted to a man with Chandra-8, because he seems to have secret or tantric healing empowerments.

Spouse

When Chandra occupies Bhava-8, 7th-from-Chandra becomes Bhava-2. The spouse is highly acquisitive, and may be focused on continuing a family lineage of capital wealth, historical knowledge or other values.

Chandra-8 = is more concerned with matters of confidential transactions, emergencies, hidden wealth, or secret initiations; whereas the spouse is grounded in tangible values, ideally a large hoard of material assets. Both spouses are concerned with developing wealth, therefore this is likely to be a materially wealthy couple.

Life span = generally the life-extent of Chandra-8 is rather short unless other graha would extend it.

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However, Chandra-8 nativities may be somewhat longer-living if change-resistor Shani casts drishti into randrasthana.

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Circumstances of death are highly emotionalized, and attachment to those left behind remains strong. the native will be long cherished by loved ones; a secret bond persists.

Longevity: slightly reduced overall.

Circumstances of Death: sudden, perhaps by the hand of family members or countrymen. By water, chilling (most typically in old age via pneumonia). With Kuja, by drowning. Outcome depends significantly on the L-8.

In-Laws: strong emotional connection to the spouse's family.

Inheritance and Insurance settlements:: considerable profit from hidden resources

Taxes: not a burden.

Access to Secret Knowledge: strong intuition leads the native to detect the content of hidden affairs.. Emotional proclivity to become surreptitiously involved in the affairs of others. Whatever the external reasoning, there is an emotional need to pursue tantric relationships.

Mind (Chandra)

Chandra-8 personalities may be exceptionally moody. Hormone cycles on a wide pendulum swing. Also true of the mother.

Healing Skills: capability for emotional healing. Touch-healer.

Catastrophic Changes: subject to massive changes in the emotional character, depending on L-8

Behari says that Makara Chandra in randhra bhava intensifies the psychological problems associated with a sudden rise from obscurity to glory:

"There may be some psychological problems presenting material temptations.

You will be intensely interested in the mystical side of life, but interest will be primarily guided by the desire to acquire personal glory.

You will succeed in attaining goals, perhaps so suddenly that you will be surprised. ...."

Mother

Matri-karaka in bhava-8

Chandra's basic instinct is to soothe, to nurture, to ground, to protect. Yet in randhrasthana, the parental sheltering instincts suffer constant upheaval. Often the backstory includes a disruptive, unstable, and unpredictable mother who was nevertheless a capable healer.

Unless the Moon's ruler is anchored in a kendra and strong via rashi, and Chandra occupies a very hospitable rashi, such a mother may not have been supported with professional education so that her healing instincts may have run amok.

If Chandra's planetary support is steady however, mom may be a surgeon, psychiatrist, midwife, deep healer, vulcanist, seismologist, manager of highly confidential or dangerous information, a scientist handling explosives, hazardous materials specialist, or other respected professional charged with social responsibility for managing rapid change and transformation under life-threatening conditions.

Mother has some clandestine or occult (8) behaviors which do not however harm the native's public dignity since 8 = gainful 11th from 10th. In fact as a consequence of learning to respond to an unpredictable Mother, the native's own emotional affinity for sudden change and crisis can easily provide a basis for earnings in professions that require emotionally sensitive intervention such as emergency counseling.

On the plus side, mother may be a gifted healer using confidential methods.

Chandra, which is the emotional foundation of life, is subject to constant disasters of psycho-emotional earthquake, flood, and fire. The physical security may be adequately protective (not always) but the emotional security is likely to fluctuate considerably due to the suddenly changing moods of the Mother.

Mother of Chandra-8 = characteristically secretive in her behavior. She masks and hides her activities, disguising her relationships and clouding her whereabouts.

Mother is supposed to be the soul of reliability and routine - the very ground of one's stable existence.

It can be very difficult for a child to have a mother who is so volatile and changeable in their affections.

Disagreement, disappointment, emotional servitude =

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The flesh-body Bhava-1 = 6th-from-Chandra

Body-image, musculature, identity-appearance, vitality fluctuation, and discomfort with the physical body can ebb and flow.

  • One may feel emotionally unsuited to carry out the requirements of physical fitness and competitive vitality in the socially marked appearance.

  • As a result one may feel emotionally enslaved to the flesh-body and its appearance.

Marriages for Chandra in Bhava-8

spouse brings forth emotional content of native's bhava-2

first marriage is emotionally triggered and sustained by deep memories of 7th-from-8th = bhava-2:

  • family history; food and food storage; oral tradition, epic poetry, speech and song; one's own moral and aesthetic values, knowledge of history, art collections, wealth, and knowledge of languages; mother's family history; physical body face, neck, jaw, mouth, teeth, tongue.

  • Supplementing the material qualities of 1st-marriage = radix bhava-7

  • Moon in bhava-8 gives an emotionally acquisitive 1st-marriage partner.


second marriage is emotionally triggered and sustained by deep memories of 2nd-from-8th = bhava-9:

  • One's own father; maternal grandfather; ceremonial religion, priests; guru, professor, religious teachers; wisdom; universities and temples; grandchildren; physical body spine, hips, pelvis, sciatic complex

  • Supplementing the material qualities of 2nd-marriage = radix bhava-2

  • natal Moon in bhava-4 gives an emotionally paternalistic 2nd-marriage partner


third marriage is emotionally triggered and sustained by deep memories of 9th-from-5th = bhava-1:

  • social identity, physical appearance, musculature; sports, hunting, dance, competitions, movement, vitality, birth; physical body head, skull, brain, blood

  • Supplementing the material qualities of 3rd-marriage as seen in radix bhava-9,

  • natal Moon in bhava-8 gives an emotionally vital 3rd-marriage partner

Das / Bepin Behari comments upon Chandra-8:

"Moon in the 8th house harms the mental composure.

The past is brought to the surface.

  • Defects in character, ailments, and adversaries appear in the forefront and you find you have to deal with these.

... indicates death in a public place, by drowning, ship wreck, road accident, public calamity.

  • Separation from family members due to spouse's influence in some way.

Suffers from different acute and chronic ailments.

  • Takes varied treatment from several doctors, who flock to your house and prescribe strange medicines.

  • Constant fear of curable and incurable diseases.

  • 8th house indicates death, legacies, interest in occult science, and diseases of the secret parts and generative system .

    • Moon in the 8th house causes fear of chronic diseases and strong enemies, e.g. government, thieves, etc.

  • Dependent on doctors and their medicines.

    • Intelligent, splendorous, and will suffer from diseases.

    • May suffer from the severest of diseases

    • and will be attended to by many doctors.

    Poverty may come, but quite intelligent, learned.

    • The eyes may suffer.

    • Epilepsy is a possibility.

  • You will not have firm livelihood and will be wandering.

  • Conjugal happiness suffers."

  • Q: Dear Barbara,

    Love your website! it's been an anchor for me during my last (long, awful) mahadasha. I have a question for you. I myself offer intuitive, channeled and Vedic astrological readings. I have a Purvashadha moon in the 8th house. I am gifted, but I often wonder about my healing mission, and fear that I may cause more harm than good. Any words of advice?

    A: Namaste,

    Thanks very much for your kind note. I'm delighted to know that you find the website resources useful in your study of the samayavidya.

    My only observation would be to ensure that one knows oneself quite well before venturing into the service of helping others to know themselves in a similar fashion. A good deal of meditative reflection should precede any offering within a ministry of service, to ensure that humility and maturity will guide the acts of service.

    Whilst a gifted and emotionally penetrating intuitive healer, with insufficient consciousness Chandra-8 can also sink into manipulative psychological interventions and habitual invasion of other people's emotional space.

    In other words, the 'wounded healer' Chandra-8 is often a busy-body characterized by frequent emotional polling but little lasting commitment to the healing process.

    Chandra-8 needs frequent upsets, upheavals, and shocks to confirm their identity. This need-vibration tends to attract similar matching energy. You attract people who are in significant identity transition, who may be intensely seeking new information about themselves which they need to reconstruct a reinvented self - and quickly! Chandra-8, particularly in any of the purva nakshatra, tends to go early, go quickly, go first - but then flame out, jumping from one emotional moment to the next lacking continuity due to early trauma with a fast-changing, unpredictable mother.

    Self-knowledge of one's own wounding and recovery cycle with its frequent eruptions and identity changes is essential before proceeding into the offer to heal others. Be clear on what you can offer (enthusiastic sudden intervention) and what is best left to other healers with different skills (longer term commitments).

    Yet the instinct to serve others is a beautiful thing, and with proper cultivation it is usually the best path toward spiritual realization. Chandra-8 tantric healing service can flourish with the proper spiritual guidance. Be sure to check in daily with your guides, ask their help as you move forward in understanding your mission, and most importantly check motivation before jumping into any healing endeavor.

    Like a pilot at the aircraft control panel, go through all the motivation checks and double-checks before getting into another person's psycho-emotional space. Be quite sure that you are working for the highest good. However, once the safety check is completed, trust your healing instincts. Wishing you success in your ministry and maturity in your approach to service, Sincerely, BP Lama Jyotisha

    Light-Source-Ptaah "Well, you know, everything outside you really is simply a story "out there" for you to come home.

    It does not matter how horrific you judge it to be. All of the stories of your life which recreated and recreated and recreated the pain, are simply that which is to bring you home.

    • The pain itself is cumulative.
    • The pain does not go away.

    You store it within you

    and every time you think you have forgotten,

    you build a wall around your heart higher and thicker so that you will not feel anything anymore.

    • But you see, my beloveds, it simply does not work.
    • Look at your lives.

    What occurs is that pain you hold within you is what kills you."

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