Emotional need for secrecy and hidden identities

Chandra in a natural bhava of Mangala

• USA Pres-1 George Washington + Rahu = master of guerilla warfare

Bhava-8 = Sudden, unexpected movement

Emotionally attached to the partner's family (2nd from 7th)

Chandra residing in bhava-8 suggests that, for the purposes of the present incarnation, the sources of emotional well-being (8) have been designed to be in disagreement (6) with the sources of physical well-being (1 = 6th-from-8th).

Further, the the sources of emotional well-being (8) have been designed to promote sudden, transformative changes (8) in the sources of mental well-being (3 = 8th-from-8th).

Thus Chandra-8 is distinguished by a nearly constant emotional cycle of psycho-emotional self-destruction and rebirth.

In childhood, the mother is prone to emotional outbursts (8).

Throughout adulthood, the rhythmic patterns of life (Chandra) often include events of violent shock and upheaval which profoundly affect not only the emotional state but also radically impact the physical life-force (typically, a vigorous but shortened lifespan) .

If the higher consciousness is developed in this lifetime, a preternatural intuitive awareness of impending disaster may often protect (Chandra) the lifestyle and livelihoods of human settlements (4, Chandra).

• in 2004, Guru Ammachi became intuitively aware of an imminent lethal tsunami and directed her community to safety

Life span = generally rather short unless other graha (notably Shani) would extend it.

• financier George Soros = long-lived due to Shani drishti into bhava-8

• entrepreneur Steve Jobs = pancreatic cancer, age 56

• King of Nepal 1972-2001 Birendra Bir Bikram Shah = assassinated age 56

• fashion model, dramatist Margaux Hemingway = suicide age 42

• balladeer Judy Garland = drug-related death age 47

Chandra-8 may appear to be emotionally unstable, yet the placement is deeply creative as the native has access to rich stores of occult (8) intuition (Chandra).

As always with the super-impressionable Lord Chandra, the outcome must factor in the character of the dispositor of randhra-sthana.

Emotionally most comfortable in environments such as:

• the medical surgery; working with secrets or unknowns in any setting; rebirth, rejuvenation, renovation, reconstruction;

• in the emergency room of a hospital; in disaster services; receiving dangerous, confidential information; manipulating the great unseen life-energy forces

• hidden wealth management, tax-shelters, secret treasuries

  • capitalist philanthropist George Soros

• tantriki Chandra-8 may exhibit secretive behavior.

Perhaps a noticeable gap between public facade and private activities.

In a hidden environment, Chandra-8 engages with frightening or forbidden conditions.

• psychiatrist Sigmund Freud

Life provides a habitual pattern of frequent upheaval, contact with the conditions of death and rebirth;

many changes of life conditions followed by periods of rejuvenation and recovery from shock

In redemption religions,

• Chandra-8 needs to be frequently "saved" and born again"

Strong emotional attachment to secret relationships and hidden wealth. Emotional need for mystery, healing and transformation.

Matter's of Chandra's house are subject to sudden upheaval and destructive change.

To have Soma's portfolio radically, even catastrophically, destroyed during the lifetime is indeed Viparita Raja Yoga (Sarala) for Simha lagna and Kumbha lagna,where Soma = L-6 and L-12.

For Simha and Kumbha lagna Soma-randhrasthana = a boost up.

Special benefits for "disease destroyer" Soma-8 for Kumbha lagna (e.g., Deepak Chopra) where major obstacles from Aristhana, such as enemies, conflicts, debts, and disease, are intuitively destroyed.

Mother

Chandra-8 is perhaps the most difficult placement for Soma.

Chandra-6 gives an ill mother or one trapped in poverty or servitude; Chandra-12 gives a distant mother or one hidden from view .

However Chandra-8 produces a mother who is unpredictable and subject to sudden, catastrophic change of personality. The emotional foundation of life is subject to constant disasters of psycho-emotional earthquake, flood, and fire.

the Chandra-8 mother is also characteristically secretive in her behavior. She masks and hides her activities, disguising her relationships and clouding her whereabouts.

It can be very difficult for a child to have a mother -- supposed to be the soul of reliability and routine - the very ground of one's existence - that is so volatile and changeable in their affections.

Often the child becomes so habituated to sudden and violent changes in relationships that according to deep expectations they act preemptively sabotage their unions, causing a chronic cycle of intense desire for nurturing followed by catastrophic breakups.

• Lisa Marie Presley also married four times by the age of 36, presumably due to the preemptive cycle

• Chandra-8 tends to develop secretive relationship patterns -- relationships both to people and to money. Whilst living a high-profile public life as a wealthy film star, married to a prominent journalist, and then serving as the Republican governor of California, former Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger famously conducted a secret union with his service-class housekeeper, maintaining a second home and a second family hidden from the public.

Parents

The identity of one's parents - esp the mother - may be kept secret. Chandra-8 = a common placement in the nativities of children who were adopted with sealed documents or no documents at all. Also a common placement for persons living with an occluded identity.

The hidden identity of the birth parents is an important part of the native 's development plan.

Interestingly, even when the identity of one's parents is revealed to oneself or others may also know, it is possible for the native 's own tantrik reasons that one makes an effort to prevent public discovery of these facts.

e.g.,

• Steve Jobs the computer designer and showman was famously adopted as an infant. Chandra = L-12 and he wished to live as privately as possible. Thus the identity of his birth parents remained an occult fact for a long time. In addition he became himself a parent as a young bachelor, and kept the fact of his parenthood secret for many years.

Spouse

When Chandra occupies Bhava-8, 7th-from-Chandra becomes Bhava-2. The spouse is highly acquisitive, and may be focused on continuing a family lineage of material wealth, historical knowledge or other values.

the native is more concerned with matters of confidential transactions, emergencies, hidden wealth, or secret initiations; whereas the spouse is grounded in tangible values, ideally a large hoard of material assets. Both spouses are concerned with developing wealth, therefore this is likely to be a materially wealthy couple.

The main trouble with Chandra in randhra bhava is that one ABSORBS the shocks of life's sudden, forced changes into oneself. One feels considerable emotional pressure to maintain a veil of mystery around one's hoard of confidential knowledge. This becomes a problem when the secret knowledge needs to be released, or when the ethics of the situation demand honesty and full disclosure.

Transformation can be gentle or violent, according to the consciousness of the nativity overall. This native craves deep and profound change.

• Tantrik (trans-form-ative) orientation capable of moving entire classes of beings from one energetic stage into the next (although only the most spiritually aware e.g. Free-Mason George Washington would know that is what they are involved in).

Soma in Bhava-8 may produce profound healers who can move an individual or small group from one life stage into the next, e.g. death healers. Natural transformers of thoughts, landscapes, and identities..

Some attraction to sorcery. Intuitive awareness of the cycles of re-in-carn-ation. Personal life always tumultuous because the Moon wants emotional stability and these natives are marked as agents of profound and constant change.

Energized by always-moving Mangala, men and women who are born with Chandra in Bhava-8 are much constrained emotionally by Shani's strictures; thus they have characteristically little patience with fear and often blast through (Kuja) the walls of social taboo.

Chandra-8 healing= need to be surrounded by healers. If the native becomes a professional healer, or is born into a lineage of physicians, this need can be met by friendly association. Yet the default path is to experience Ongoing psycho-somatic illness, which attracts physicians of all traditions, who may give conflicting medical advice. Karaka for iatrogenic disease.

Native has a deep intuitive attraction to medical healing esp. surgery, but one must be cautious to obtain the proper training and comprehend the rational element of medicine. The training issue is always a concern with 8th-house graha because Bhava-8 is the house of loss of the temple, which means that the native does not have direct access to the conventional university or priestly lineage training. There is a need to psychically attract a non-traditional teacher or guru.

Most of the negative implications are cancelled if Chandra = L-12. I.e., for Simha lagna, Moon in Bhava-8 is a beneficial placement esp. for a trained physician..

Disagreement, disappointment, emotional servitude

• When Chandra occupies Bhava-8, the most difficult house emotionally becomes 6th-from-8th = Tula bhava (radix lagna). Depending on conditions in Bhava-1, there will be affective difficulties due to disagreements within one's own body and regarding one's social personality. The lord of Tula will produce emotional servitude (giving more than one receives) during its Vimshottari period.

• The physical appearance = a particular source of that problem of disappointment, frustration with inferior results, or exploitative overwork. the native is often ill, due to an emotionally adversarial relationship to one's own body.

• Often a ragged appearance, with the bedraggled or unbalanced appearance expressing the internal conflicts. Can be corrected by nice graha in the lagna.

The man will experience his mother as a sexual person much earlier than children normally notice. He sees her powers because he is psychically attuned to secret powers at birth, and the first power he notices is in the aura of the mother.

The mother may have lovers or the parents are not afraid to show the child some of their sexual energy. (BTW this Moon does not indicate child abuse, rather it signifies child's heightened magical awareness.) He gains early knowledge of sexual healing and the cycle of birth and death; having this knowledge he both loves and fears women. Women are often very attracted to a man with Chandra in Bhava-8, because he too seems to have secret and charismatic powers.

Native is emotionally oriented toward secrecy, and may be a compulsive keeper of secrets.

Sudden, forced changes in the mother's life conditions.

Secret sexual and emotional relationships.

Needs to keep one's emotional life hidden.

When highly evolved, an exceptional tantric healer.

Matri-karaka in bhava-8 = similar to Shukra in bhava-8

Circumstances of death are highly emotionalized, and attachment to those left behind remains strong. the native will be long cherished by loved ones; a secret bond persists.

• Longevity: slightly reduced overall.

• Circumstances of Death: sudden, perhaps by the hand of family members or countrymen. By water, chilling (most typically in old age via pneumonia). With Kuja, by drowning. Outcome depends significantly on the L-8.

• In-Laws: strong emotional connection to the spouse's family.

• Inheritance and Insurance settlements:: considerable profit from hidden resources

• Taxes: not a burden.

• Access to Secret Knowledge: strong intuition leads the native to detect the content of hidden affairs.. Emotional proclivity to become surreptitiously involved in the affairs of others. Whatever the external reasoning, there is an emotional need to pursue tantric relationships.

• Healing Skills: capability for emotional healing. Touch-healer.

• Catastrophic Changes: subject to massive changes in the emotional character, depending on L-8

• Joint Assets of Marriage: females contribute well into the joint accounts. Both native and spouse have an emotional predisposition to build financial security for the marriage.

• Divorce Settlement: Moon gives the reflection of other strong graha. Depends entirely on Chandra's house and the L-8.

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  Mother has some clandestine behaviors which may harm her public dignity. On the plus side, mother may be a gifted healer using confidential methods.

  Native is exceptionally moody. Hormone cycles on a wide pendulum swing. Also true of the mother.

6th-from-Chandra

• The flesh-body Bhava-1 = 6th-from-Chandra; naturally body-image, vitality issues, and discomfort with the physical body can arise.

• One may feel emotionally unsuited to carry out the requirements of physical fitness and competitive vitality in the socially marked appearance.

• As a result one may feel emotionally enslaved to the flesh-body and its appearance.

first marriage is emotionally triggered and sustained by deep memories of 7th-from-8th = bhava-2:

• family history; food and food storage; oral tradition, epic poetry, speech and song; one's own moral and aesthetic values, knowledge of history, art collections, wealth, and knowledge of languages; mother's family history; physical body face, neck, jaw, mouth, teeth, tongue.

• Supplementing the material qualities of 1st-marriage = radix bhava-7

• Moon in bhava-8 gives an emotionally acquisitive 1st-marriage partner.

second marriage is emotionally triggered and sustained by deep memories of 2nd-from-8th = bhava-9:

• One's own father; maternal grandfather; ceremonial religion, priests; guru, professor, religious teachers; wisdom; universities and temples; grandchildren; physical body spine, hips, pelvis, sciatic complex

• Supplementing the material qualities of 2nd-marriage = radix bhava-2

• natal Moon in bhava-4 gives an emotionally paternalistic 2nd-marriage partner

third marriage is emotionally triggered and sustained by deep memories of 9th-from-5th = bhava-1:

• social identity, physical appearance, musculature; sports, hunting, dance, competitions, movement, vitality, birth; physical body head, skull, brain, blood

• Supplementing the material qualities of 3rd-marriage as seen in radix bhava-9,

• natal Moon in bhava-8 gives an emotionally vital 3rd-marriage partner