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 Barbara Pijan Lama Jyotisha Vedic Astrology
Shri Shri Ganapati

Bhava * Graha

see also: 8th-from-Chandra

periods of L-8 from Chandra-lagna

Lord Regulator

of Randhra Bhava-8

inhabiting the 12 Bhava

role of the Randhra pathi

lord of the eighth house

Planets in Signs and Houses, by Bepin Behari, p. 150

 "Essentially, the planet ruling the Eighth Bhava destroys the auspicious influences of the house it occupies,

except in the other houses connected with the Sea of Immutability."

Public Figures

L-8 = Surya in bhava-1

L-8 = Chandra in bhava-1

  • telejournalist Larry King extracting, confessional interviewer

  • Barbara Walters extracting, confessional interviewer

L-8 = Mangala in bhava-1

L-8 = Budha in bhava-1 * dik-bala

L-8 = Guru in bhava-1 * dik-bala

L-8 = Shukra in bhava-1

L-8 = Shani in bhava-1

L-8 secrets, conditions of death, mysterious money, hidden knowledge

in Bhava 1 physical appearance, social personality, vitality, movement, charisma

Agency of eruption, emergence, upheaval

Potentially dangerous or sudden, unexpected eruptions of force, social-material or psycho-emotional, find agency in the figure of the flesh-body.

If L-8 = Guru,

  • numerous (Guru) encounters with the conditions of death, either as victim or perpetrator -- but L-8 does not predict the timing of death, only the environment

  • India-PM 1984-89 Rajiv Gandhi

Identified with the conditions of death and sudden transformations of the life-force energy:

L-8 in radical lagna tends to conceal things.

  • If L-8 Guru, under the guise of philosophy

  • If L-8 = Chandra, under the guise of family welfare

  • If L-8 = Shani, under the guise of professional duties

  • etc

Identity (1) from secret knowledge (8) or from self-destructive behaviors (8). When fortunate, self-destruction is followed by self-rebirthing.

L-8 = shad-ashtaka 6-8 fromswakshetra = social distrust and physical discomfort, sometimes undiagnosed disease

  • The main value of inheritance from the parents and other immediate ancestors = physical appearance

L-8 in 1 = a particularly active, pragmatic, and productive placement in life; yet the deeper sources of one's enthusiasm for life are quite mystical.

During periods of the L-8, appearance or the social identity may undergo radical change

perhaps through rejuvenating surgery

  • Barbara Walters

The planetary lord of transformative self-destruction and rebirth has entered the bhava of the Annamayakosha ('food-body', physical body).

The fleshly appearance = " iconic" for massive changes. Socially identified with large-scale change, social transformation, crisis and healing, secrets and taboos, creation and destruction of identity, matters of the turning of the cycle of rebirth and death. A healer and transformer with shamanic qualities.

Iconic figures with L-8 in 1 may be assassinated or die very suddenly, after which there is a social transformation related to the traumatic shock of grief.

Does not apply to L-8 Shani. Shani imposes responsibility to hold dangerous secrets, but Shani does not endanger one.

Mangala

Guru

Shukra

8th-from-swakshetra = good results for secret sources of empowerment for tapping the wellsprings of ancient hidden knowledge; transformative healing through secret sexual relationships; and mystical allure in therapeutic and tantric initiation environments.

L-8 in bhava-1 - not an easy placement, as the lord of shad-ashtaka 6-8 fromlagna inhabits the lagna.

Social personality and physical appearance is identified with behaviors of destruction, regeneration, and rebirth. one is engaged lifelong with deep cycles of transformation, living with the threat of annihilation but simultaneously aware of one's capabilities for rebirth. "Nine lives."

The threat may be physical, social, mental, or spiritual - usually all of the above. Period of L-8 narrates the drama of destroying the old and creating the new. one 's actions during periods of L-8 may easily be construed as "self-destructive". Which they are. But in the bigger picture, this native is experiencing a death of old behaviors and a rebirth into a new life understanding.

"I am my hidden wealth, my healing capacity, my sudden forced changes, and my secretive behaviors."

Healing with healing crisis: secret dealings, privileged access, tantra, hidden matters, in-laws, circumstances of death. one is deeply identified with their role as a knower of powerful secret knowledge.

The social identity is infused with the qualities of deep healing, transformation, confidential information, secret intimacy, loss of morality, forbidden lands, obscure processes, wealth through inheritance,

emergencies, disasters, catastrophic change, rebirth, specter of death, taxes."

For the Mesha lagna, Kuja-1 indicates a dual nature:

  • USA Pres-35, John F Kennedy L-8 Mangala in lagna = both very athletic and very much in terrible pain. President Kennedy suffered painful and debilitating spinal disease. His handlers hid this truth (8, hiding) from the public by posing him for "action shots" that emphasized his Kuja-Mesha-lagna energy = mobile and athletic. He died of gunshot penetration to the skull L-8 Kuja-Mesha.

From Planets in Signs and Houses, by Bepin Behari (p. 149):

  • "The lord of the eighth house occupying the ascendant produces ill health and disease.

  • It makes the individual frustrated in life, critical of everything.

  • He may however unexpectedly receive some monetary reward from the state."

Public Figures

L-8 = Surya in bhava-2

L-8 = Chandra in bhava-2

L-8 = Mangala in bhava-2

  • philosopher, mathematician, social activist Bertrand Russell + uchcha-Rahu + Surya

L-8 = Budha in bhava-2

L-8 = Guru in bhava-2

L-8 = Shukra in bhava-2

L-8 = Shani in bhava-2

L-8 secrets, longevity, hidden money, hidden knowledge

in Bhava 2 = secret treasuries of wealth and knowledge, family lineage, speech and song, face mouth teeth hair and eyes

Wealth (2) from secret knowledge (8) or from self-destructive behaviors (8). When fortunate, self-destruction is followed by self-rebirthing.

Sudden, intensely transformative, and potentially catastrophic changes in the definition of one's relationship to family history, second marriage, speech and song, face and mouth, wealth and natural resource reserves , caused by discovery of a secret.

Agency of eruption, emergence, upheaval

Potentially dangerous or sudden, unexpected eruptions of force, social-material or psycho-emotional, find agency in the figure of the family of origin, the herds and the hoards, curators of collections and repositories, linguists, librarians, bankers,

Material Wealth indicator.

Also one may speak (or sing or otherwise express) a historical emergence of taboo or secret information.

  • Elvis Presley mixed racial styles, caused a fearful reaction

  • philosopher, mathematician, social activist Bertrand Russell discussed sexual relations outside of marriage, as well as anti-war information

One may cause the public or the immediate environment to react with fear of sudden change. one may be associated with social upheaval expressed through a taboo or illicit sexual relationship. Brad Pitt; Ravi Shankar

If the L-8 is unfortunate social obloquy through indiscretion.

The main value of inheritance from the parents and other immediate ancestors = accrued historical, linguistic, arts, and cultural values. This is a particularly wealthy placement in life.

7th-from-swakshetra = auspicious for secret sources of empowerment for consulting and advising relationships; transformative healing through a variety of sexual relationships; and mystical allure in the courtroom and other adversarial settings.

The lord of transformative self- destruction and rebirth has entered the house of family, face, food, and finances.

  • Sudden, forced changes invade the domain of family history; catastrophic change (for better or worse) in the life conditions of stored wealth and lineage values values.

  • Sudden changes in one 's marriage relationship or other important social contracts and promises.

Native speaks about the changes in their lineage values which have informed these catastrophic changes in their previous agreements.

Emergence of hidden or taboo family relationships, and the eventual stabilization of the exposed hidden contract within the traditional value system.

Broken promises affecting family life and values, explained but not forgiven. An agent of sudden change through their power to articulate transitions in historic cultural values through speech and facial expression.

L-8 migrating into 2 indicates that the death (or divorce) of the first spouse leads to a remarriage, usually rather quickly, to someone already known.

  • Brad Pitt + L-8 Budha in 2

  • UK-Prince Charles Windsor L-8 Shani in 2.

  • within a few months of the birth of his first son with a local peasant woman, Leo Tolstoy married his aristocratic wife

In a divorce situation often there is "someone else" waiting to become the second partner. In the case of widowhood, the second spouse is not necessarily an active extramarital interest but rather (and esp with conservative Shani) a historic friend or acquaintance.

Bepin Behari

"Occupying the second house,

  • [L-8] destroys the creative initiative of the individual,

  • inducing him to earn his livelihood by surreptitious means.

He may be persecuted by the government

  • Or even suffer legal punishment.

  • Retrieval of lost property is also possible with this placement."

Public Figures

L-8 = Surya in bhava-3

L-8 = Chandra in bhava-3

L-8 = Mangala in bhava-3

L-8 = Budha in bhava-3

L-8 = Guru in bhava-3

L-8 = Shukra in bhava-3

L-8 = Shani in bhava-3

L-8 in 8th-from-8th

secrets, longevity, hidden money, occult knowledge

publication of explicit, uncovered, unveiled, or forbidden images and ideas

Publication, announcement, advertising of "secrets". Writing and media-message delivery of occult mystical knowledge

publication of tax information or hidden financial knowledge

announcement of personal secrets, psychological exposure

announcement of revolutionary information, leading to upheaval or reaction

Bhava 3 = writing, publication, media content, information, messaging, tours and campaigns, planning, documentation, advertising, announcements

Writings and media publications (3) from secret knowledge (8) or from self-destructive behaviors (8). When fortunate, self-destruction is followed by self-rebirthing.

The main value of inheritance from the parents and other immediate ancestors = narrative transmission and communications media messaging.

This is a particularly intense placement which essentially doubles the power of the L-8 in life.

Tantric mentality

Possibility of eruptions of sudden and catastrophic change along with immense communicative empowerment

Aura of Mystery = heightened

One is empowered to use media communications outlets (3) to channel " collective unconscious" levels of sexual and other taboo imagery very freely Madonna.

If necessary the native may be tasked to keep double-secrets

L-8 in 3 has no natural predators.

Agency of eruption, emergence, upheaval in bhava-3

Potentially dangerous or sudden, unexpected eruptions of force, social-material or psycho-emotional, find agency in the figure of the siblings-cousins, workmates, neighbors, publishers, conversationalists, reporters, instructors, trainers, makers of schedules and plans.

  • Gov-Sen Louisiana 1928-1935 Huey "Kingfish" Long was a populist politician of the "Share Our Wealth" party which aimed for a revolutionary redistribution of capital wealth in the aftermath of the catastrophic Great Depression. Delivered by a skillful and aggressive use of the new Radio technology (3) Long's scheme (3) started to expose the huge scale of hidden wealth of the elite and encourage a sudden, potentially violent, change in the tax (8) law. His proposals (3) had become threatening (8) to vested financial interests when he was assassinated (8) at age 42.

L-8 in 9 indicates an inherited connection to writing, publishing, verbal communications, and " media" expressions of every variety

The self-proclaimed Napoleon was famous for his remarkable public relations and advertising campaigns which helped him stay in power through projecting a magical, sexualized, privileged image into the public press.

If L-8 = an otherwise good graha, one may be blessed with a tremendous self-earned wealth through manipulation of one's image in publications such as books, movies, magazines, and other media materials .

There is much acquisition or materialization of the earlier training, perhaps a blooming of the genetic predisposition toward self-announcement and keep one's personal narrative in the public eye.

The lord of transformative self- destruction and rebirth has entered the house of mentality and media communications. L-8 in 8th-from-swakshetra = good but intense results via *total transformation* of the flow of thoughts through the daily mentality.

Good results for secret sources of empowerment for media promulgation, propaganda, distribution of writings and creative works; transformative healing through small-group interactions;; and mystical allure in communicative arts.

Reveals secret information . Has the power to transform cultural mentality through communications media. Native produces sudden, forced transformations through exposing culturally taboo materials. Articulation in writing, scripting, collaborative teamwork, sibling interaction, all mentalist media.

From Planets in Signs and Houses, by Bepin Behari, p. 149

"In the third house, the lord of the Eighth becomes detrimental to the happiness of siblings,

  • saps one's valor,

  • and destroys initiative.

  • The individual is without any support in life."

Public Figures

L-8 = Surya in bhava-4

L-8 = Chandra in bhava-4 * dik-bala

L-8 = Mangala in bhava-4

L-8 = Budha in bhava-4

L-8 = Guru in bhava-4

L-8 = dhanakaraka Shukra in bhava-4 * dik-bala

L-8 = Shani in bhava-4

L-8 secrets, longevity, hidden money, hidden knowledge

  • in the world-traveling, priestly, philosophical 9th-from-swakshetra

Bhava 4 patriotism, home and defense of the homeland, parents and caretakers, shelter, vehicles, schooling, examinations, property ownership, emotional and social security, ethnic folk customs

secure foundations of the home-life and one's basic education (4) are penetrated by secret knowledge (8) or by self-destructive behaviors (8). When fortunate, self-destruction is followed by self-rebirthing.

Agency of eruption, emergence, upheaval in bhava-4

Potentially dangerous or sudden, unexpected eruptions of force, social-material or psycho-emotional, find agency in the figure of the mother and her people, schoolteachers, parents, police, property owners, protectors of the customary way of life, guardians of the land

Sudden, intensely transformative, and potentially catastrophic changes in the definition of one's relationship to mother, school, ethnicity, vehicles and property ownership , caused by discovery of a secret.

  • USA-Sen 1962-2009 Teddy Kennedy = vehicles. the Chappaquiddick a catastrophic, nearly career-annihilating event when his car carrying a young woman staff-member passenger after a party plunged off a bridge, into a dark river. The woman drowned yet Senator Kennedy swam to safety.

Some shocks in the process of acquiring or maintaining houses, buildings, vehicles, and properties. If the graha which is L-8 is favorable, the parents (4) may leave a considerable property inheritance (8) for one.

For better or worse, one becomes a teacher of hidden, esoteric, or privileged knowledge.

May become a transformative teacher.

When at home, L-8 in 4 wishes to be "covered", masked, camouflaged.

If L-4 = Mangala, home subject to sudden invasion, sudden changes, sudden discovery.

  • after an image of her large, luxurious, prestigiously located home was featured in a popular public photograph ("discovered") chanteuse Barbara Streisand suddenly donated it to be used as an ecology environmental center.

  • Beatle George Harrison was attacked in his home by an invader

  • Baruch Spinoza mother died suddenly when he was age 6; later he was attacked by knife (Mangala)

The main value of inheritance from the parents and other immediate ancestors = cultural education, rootedness in the land and its spiritual foundations, stewardship of properties and vehicles.

Mystical patriot, mystical educator, mystical land steward.

The lord of Transformative self- destruction and rebirth has entered the house of home and country, shelter and protection. 9th-from-swakshetra = good results for windfalls and inheritance.

Favorable for secret sources of empowerment for acquisition of religious identity; transformative healing through spiritual wisdom;

Mystical allure within one's own root culture, typically as an iconic expression of the root culture's image of feminine beauty, strength, or wealth.

L-8 in bhava-4 - the mother is self-destructive in some fashion (according to the graha). Frequently upheaval of change in the childhood home. Education disrupted by sudden changes in the home.

  • Although a good student, USA Pres 22-24 Grover Cleveland * had to leave school at age 15 due to his father's death. He earned his law license by apprenticing at a law firm. He worked to financially support his mother and sisters throughout his life.

Destruction of vehicles - frequent car wrecks. Destruction and rebuilding of shelters and landed properties. May obtain and lose properties at a great rate.

Limited single-culture identity; will tend to identify with multiple customs of several cultures (i.e., an inherently multi-cultural personality).

From Planets in Signs and Houses, by Bepin Behari (p. 149):

  • "One's parents are chronically ill

  • and his patrimony greatly reduced

  • if the eighth house lord occupies the fourth."

Public Figures

L-8 = Surya in bhava-5

L-8 = Chandra in bhava-5

L-8 = Mangala in bhava-5

L-8 = Budha in bhava-5

L-8 = Guru in bhava-5

L-8 = Shukra in bhava-5

  • balladeer Phil Collins songwriter of forced romantic breakups

  • Emile Zola novelist of forced changes and revolution

L-8 = Shani in bhava-5

L-8 secrets, longevity, hidden money, hidden knowledge

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Bhava 5 performance arts, politics, romance, theatre, children, speculative ventures, games _ amusements

Children (5) are carriers of secret knowledge (8) or self-destructive behaviors (8).

When fortunate, self-destruction is followed by self-rebirthing.

Agency of eruption, emergence, upheaval

Potentially dangerous or sudden, unexpected eruptions of force, social-material or psycho-emotional, find agency in the figure of the children, politicians, genius intellects, royalty, celebrities, financial speculators, gamblers and gamers

L-8 in 10th-from-swakshetra = a good placement for everything except children. (Complications of fertility is mainly an issue for females).

  • The agents of mystery and magic migrate into the house of brilliant performance and creative genius.

political or literary career much helped by hidden sources of funding

Sudden, intensely transformative, and potentially catastrophic changes in the definition of one's relationship to children, performance arts, politics, and the creative genius , caused by discovery of a secret.

  • Newspaper reports revealed the "Teapot Dome" financial corruption scandal rocked the nation in 1923,causing a fatal stress reaction for USA Pres-29, Warren G. Harding

The main value of inheritance from the parents and other immediate ancestors =creative intelligence, talent in gaming and speculation, and political genius.

Re: children, may be associated with miscarriage or childlessness if other factors corroborate

Mystical gamesmanship.

This is a particularly intriguing placement related to very high levels of speculative intelligence. Bill Gates

one is a gambler but usually of a noble sort.

An aristocratic politician (5) with inherited money (8).

There is inherited genius (5) which gives a mystical (8) ability to comprehend the essential divine spirit of a thing (8) even when the material form may be inscrutable.

L-8 in 5 is a forward thinker and often very successful in professions which require a highly refined capacity for extreme (indeed mystical) confidence in high-stakes games such as world politics

Also very large-scale speculative investments.

  • Bill Gates

  • For Nixon, discovery of the secret (Watergate break-in) completely transformed his political (5) career.

  • At first, at appeared that his career was dead. However true to the phoenix reborn nature of L-8, Nixon re-emerged as a world figure.

Especially good wealth results from excavating secret reserves in mining either of the Earth lands and its oceans or of the vast terrain of the human psyche.

The lord of transformative self-destruction and rebirth has entered the house of creative intelligence, 10th-from-swakshetra.

  • Good results for secret sources of empowerment for obtaining respected leadership positions;

  • transformative healing through holding public trust, managing one's reputation;

  • and tantric allure in high-profile social positions.

Leadership becomes a performance art. Privileged, secret relationshipswith politicians, entertainers and speculators.

Lord of 4th-from-5th occupying bhava-5

The lord of Kuja's house gives rather peculiar circumstances in swabhava of Surya. Mangala and Ravi are friendly graha and the 4th-from angle is stable, educated, and secure.

However, the qualities of L-8 are frightening to those who do not understand what is happening. (Actually, the cycle of death and rebirth it is frightening to everyone, just slightly less so to those who are familiar with its purpose.)

As a general rule, the lord of bhava-8 causes sudden, forces changes wherever He goes. The eighth lord is only superficially destructive. What L-8 is really doing is taking the essential energy from one physical container, and moving it into a new physical container. That is the essence of tantra.

The eighth lord carries behaviors of " emergency", " sudden movement", and " hidden forces". Kuja is a hunter and He tracks the mysterious movements of the animals whose very bodies will be - if captured and killed - Transformed into food.

Animal killing and regeneration of human life through animal meat is a harsh reality, but the human species is largely chained to it. Even in vegetarian cultures the movement of life force through the plant kingdom is shocking and mysterious. Sometimes the food is there - sometimes it is not. Many secret signs and omens must be observed if the human wishes to have a steady rejuvenating supply of food.

Lovers are infused with the energy of secrecy and transformation. It may be necessary to keep the love affair hidden from view.

L-8 can also destroy the possibility of love affairs entirely, choosing instead to transfer the vital energy of romance into some other container, such as service to a higher cause, or celibate religious prayer.

Strange transformative experiences related to children, politics, speculation, literary and performance arts. One tries the common path in these pursuits, yet is deflected against one's will on to another path.

Dangerous conditions of first birth to one , or secrecy surrounding the first child. Circumstances may require casting a shield of secrecy around the children (e.g. to prevent kidnapping of celebrity children.)

Often an early miscarriage before successful childbirth. (The cycle of birth and death must turn before the karma is cleared out.)

If L-8 is particularly virulent, children may be denied due to circumstances beyond one 's control. If children are denied due to L-8 in bhava-5 (and not some other Jyotisha reason) then one is likely to achieve great wealthas the life-force is re-directed toward bringing inheritances developments.

Dangerous conditions of first childbirth to one , or secrecy surrounding the first child. Circumstances may require casting a shield of secrecy around the children(e.g. to prevent kidnapping of celebrity children.)

May be difficulties for the children unless the L-8 is a highly dignified graha

  • Bill Gates L-8 = the auspicious swakshetra Shukra paired with a dignified uchcha Shani; Mr. Gates is the father of three healthy children.) Often L-8 in 5 provides an early miscarriage, before successful childbirth. (The cycle of birth and death must turn before the karma is cleared out.)

Planets in Signs and Houses, by Bepin Behari, p. 149

"Unless the planet is well fortified by association with or the aspect of benefics,

the lord of Eight in the fifth house is inauspicious for children and the mental equilibrium.

  • The individual seldom begets a child,

  • and even if a child is born he becomes wayward and rebellious, a burden to the family.

In this situation however there is a possibility of the individual acquiring substantial wealth,

  • especially if he is denied children ."
Public Figures * Sarala Yoga

L-8 = Surya in bhava-6

L-8 = Chandra in bhava-6

L-8 = Mangala in bhava-6

L-8 = Budha in bhava-6

L-8 = Guru in bhava-6

L-8 = Shukra in bhava-6

L-8 = Shani in bhava-6

Although potentially a rather self-destructive yoga with implications for self-medication leading to hidden addictions, in many cases , L-8 in Bhava 6 = Sarala Yoga = surprising benefits

  • from lawsuits, illnesses, exploitation, servitude, pollution, impoverishment or war (6)

  • from secrets, longevity, hidden money, hidden knowledge

    disagreement, conflict, dis-ease, drugs, exploitation, accusations, logical argument, divorce, "victimology"

when these sufferings are caused by:

  • occult phenomena, secretive behaviors, hidden monies, secret knowledge, psychological and physical trauma, widowhood, emergencies and disasters, shocking discoveries, or sudden change (8)

    L-8 = agent of self-destruction followed by self-rebirthing.

Step-1 = karmic inheritance of responsibility for acting upon the materials of 8 = occult phenomena, secretive behaviors, hidden monies, trauma, widowhood, shocking discoveries, or sudden change

Step-2 = handle these dangers in the container of 6 = litigation, accusations, war, divorce, medical treatment,

  • if Kuja = L-8, the disagreement becomes aggressive

  • if Shani = L-8, the disagreement becomes chronic

Life's most brutal shocks such as natural disasters and emergencies, sudden widowhood = weakened.

Agency of eruption, emergence, upheaval in bhava-6

Potentially dangerous or sudden, unexpected eruptions of force, social-material or psycho-emotional, find agency in the figure of the mother's relatives, physicians, pharmacists, servants, accusers, complainers, polluters, the ill, the victimized and the exploited

L-8 = 11th-from-swakshetra = profits from keeping secrets, handling disasters, or making a shocking discovery.

Debt (6) from spouse's wealth (8) or from secret sources (8). Karaka for financial loss due to spousal wealth (8) achieved via in divorce (6) payment from one .

These otherwise catastrophic upheavals being weakened will manifest only as petty disputes, divorce rather than spousal death, chronic illness rather than massive disruption such as intervention surgery or a sudden stroke.

  • That may be true. But the downside of L-8 in 6 is inherited illness.

  • Everyone has an inheritance. In the case of L-8 in 6, one may inherit a subconscious lineage identity which subtly supports " identity" with the conditions of illness, poverty, toxicity, and chronic victimhood.

  • On the plus side, especially with malefics and particularly with Shani as the L-8, one may inherit a medical or human services ministry, and accept the responsibility for clinical care of the sick and the polluted.

The main value of inheritance from the parents and other immediate ancestors =addictions, internal argument leading to social conflict, and patterns of inequity, imbalance, toxicity, or exploitation in relationships.

For the conscious native, inheritance of medical, military, or human service ministry identity.

Sudden, intensely transformative, and potentially catastrophic changes in the definition of one's relationship to medicines and physicians , servants and animals, human service ministries, police and military, caused by the discovery of a secret.

Mystical imbalance.

This is a particularly difficult placement related to generational poverty, inherited medical imbalance which leads to alcoholism and drug addictions , as well as families historically involved in exploitation and crime.

If the lord is an otherwise good graha, one may elevate the purpose of the unsavory associations and develop a ministry of service to carriers of the victim-mind. One may be a skilled physician or social worker dealing with "hidden (8) or socially denied patterns of inherited self-destruction.

One may also serve as a shockingly sudden transformative (8) agent in relation to the repeating miseries (6) of the underclass.

When Budha = L-8, one however otherwise successful in life may be prone to articulate but highly conflicted self-destructive inner argumentation which is essentially an inherited narrative, passed down the family line.

The lord of transformative self-destruction has entered the house of imbalance, conflict, enemies, debts, disease.11th-from-swakshetra, results which improve over time (upachaya angle).

Good results for secret sources of empowerment for gains of income; transformative healing through large networks of friendly association; and mystical allure in in huge gatherings such as rallies, music concerts, fayres and melas.

A dushthamsha lord residing in a dushthamsha generally gives favorable outcome. There are both easy and difficult implications.

Debt is destroyed ; L-8 in bhava-6 builds wealth quickly, native is not constrained by debt, native is gainful. However illness is increased, due to some negative habit acquired in the attempt to manage life's stress-conflict overload.

Powerful healers and secret methods will restore one 's health. After much transformative struggle (wisdom-building) enemies are destroyed - but only after one realizes that the enemies are projections of unwanted aspects of his own self.

Overall prognosis is good, but the transformative processes at work are energy-consuming and complex.

L-8 in bhava-6 or bhava-12 is considered to weaken the effect of L-8.

L-8 in 6 = Sarala yoga = a "Viparita" ("crooked") Raja Yoga that gives short-term opportunities for good results at the moment when others suffer bad circumstances. Often what is a terrible crisis for another becomes the key to one's own betterment.

  • capitalist philanthropist George Soros created USD_1_billion profit on a single day of currency speculation in 1992. As a result the Bank of England (which was resisting a necessary devaluation) "crashed" and many other investors suffered deep losses

If a malefic+ L-8 in 11th-from-swakshetra can be quite gainful, with source of the gain being confidential or secret dealings in negative relationships and materials. May be a spectacular healer whose tantric knowledge confronts evil directly, and who gains thereby.

Behind-the-scenes manipulators of war. Confidential usurious money-lending. Weapons dealers, prostitution rings, drug dealers, usurers. May be operating on an international scale, such as agents of large banks/rich countries who arrange impoverishing loans to poor countries. Realism and secret knowledge brings them success through negative dealings.

If benefic, victim of exhausting struggles resulting from Deep Denial. Undiagnosed disease and misplaced confidence. Financial illness, medical illness, social illness - all present in this native's life, yet he rejects the reality of evil. Wants a miracle cure, but does not see his own negativity operating in the disease process.

Patient's denial prevents physicians from finding the cause of illness. Whatever value the spouse contributes to the joint assets of marriage is drained off in medical expenses, payments to charlatans, false advocates, physicians and others falsely claiming to have access to secret cures. Native suffers by denying the reality of his own internal imbalances which are manifesting through .

Criticism

  • Because bhava-6 = Budha's house of argument and criticism, one can expect to receive abundant verbal and written criticism for one's identity-destroying behaviors (8) , particularly behaviors which force the "death of marriage" i.e., decision to divorce = a major cause of loss of social identity.

  • Scandal generated via one's choice to enforce transformation creating crisis and emergency.

  • Secret-knowing agents who assist in one's destruction-and-rebirth process are also criticized - e.g., secret amour, confidence-keeping attorney, court-appointed investigators, psychiatrist, surgeon, and detective.

  • One may be accused of crimes (6) related to confidential and secret matters; however due to Sarala Yoga, criminal litigation for secret dealings cannot proceed.

Good results due to Sarala yoga

Positive opportunities for advancement in the fallout from the identity-destroying crisis instigated during the period of L-8. Indeed one's re-created life will .

  • Furthermore, when L-8 is weakened by entering 6, one will typically escape the catastrophic scale of changes associated with domain 8 and instead proceed to the next phase of identity development with relative stability, such as easy movement into a second marriage after widowhood, easy recovery from disasters, easy healing after surgery.

  • "Harry Potter" writer J.K. Rowling hit a terrible low point with a foreign divorce and catastrophic illness-then- tragic death of her mother followed by single motherhood in dire poverty in a cold country... followed by a nearly complete rebirth as a splendidly successful author of occult children's stories, films, and major philanthropy.

L-8 in 6 does not destroy animosity in this lifetime.

Depending on the number and character of graha in bhava-6, one may remain an object of contempt by many. The more graha in bhava-6, the more agents who complain and criticize. If there are several graha in bhava-6, each will cause its own variety of illness, poverty, jealousy, and suspicion.

  • However with L-8 in 6 every broken contract (6) has positive transformative empowerment (8).

  • Divorce and dishonored business contracts are oddly beneficial. one has very minimal truck with police, military, and will usually also avoid the military draft or at least avoid combat duty.

From Planets in Signs and Houses, by Bepin Behari (p. 149):

dramatist Elizabeth Taylor = Kuja muscles blood

sarala yoga

"In the Sixth Bhava,

  • the eighth lord acquires special strength:

  • one Overcomes ones enemies

  • and acquires much wealth,

  • but suffers the illness indicated by the planet in question."

Public Figures

L-8 = Surya in bhava-7

L-8 = Chandra in bhava-7

  • USA Pres-26 Theodore Roosevelt

  • Pres-Venezuela 1999-2013 Hugo R. Chavez + Budha + Ketu + Guru

L-8 = Mangala in bhava-7

L-8 = Budha in bhava-7

L-8 = Guru in bhava-7

L-8 = Shukra in bhava-7

L-8 = Shani in bhava-7 * dik-bala

L-8 secrets, longevity, hidden money, hidden knowledge in Bhava 7 = alliances, agreements, contracts, bargaining, match-making, brokering, deals, balance, advice and counseling, peerage, equity

"secret deals"

L-8 in 12th-from-swakshetra = vitiation, causes loss-of physical vitality and social personality identity.

Reduces the public accountability of the marriage contract and alliances of all varieties (political, commercial) because one is engaged in a secretive and rapid cycle of self-destruction-and-rebirth.

  • When favorable, the self-destruction is followed by a rebirth which completes a cycle of self-transformation; marriage can survive this cycle with proper therapeutic support.

Marriage and contractual agreement (7) is transformed by secret knowledge (8) or self-destructive behaviors (8). When fortunate, self-destruction is followed by self-rebirthing. Typically too unstable for lasting marriage but marriage may become a container for tantric, transformative process.

  • If L-7 = Shukra, partner's wealth contributes substantial to the value of the marriage.

Sudden, intensely transformative, and potentially catastrophic changes in the definition of one's relationship to he spouse and alliance partners , caused by discovery of a secret.

Agency of eruption, emergence, upheaval in bhava-7

Potentially dangerous or sudden, unexpected eruptions of force, social-material or psycho-emotional, find agency in the figure of the mate, counselors, advisers, deal-makers, contractors, attorneys, bargainers, arbiters, mediators, middlemen, balancers, designers, arrangers

Lord of 2nd-from-7 occupies 7

Spouse-partner

  • Spouse has many hidden interests, and the in-laws have much control over the destiny of the marriage contract.

  • Generally considered unfavorable due to spouse being unduly influenced by their family history; yet financially this position is a plus.

The main value of inheritance from the parents and other immediate ancestors =ability to build contracts and negotiate and agreements- even with highly unlikely or hostile partners.

Mystical alliances.

  • The lord of transformative destruction has entered the house of balance, contracts, marriage alliance and agreements.

  • Good results for secret sources of empowerment for private imaginings and fantasies; transformative healing through knowledge of one's immediate past life; and mystical allure in the bedroom arts.

  • Marriage relationship or other important social contracts and promises are vitiated through one 's secret dealings. one must bring some mysterious, confidential, and potentially dangerous activities into the realm of marriage.

  • This creates difficulty for the spouse, who assumes partial responsibility for one's behavior by way of the marriage contract. It may be difficult for the spouse to understand and accept the L-8 in 3's native 's secret commitments.

  • It is easier to not be legally married with this position. If one is married there may be high turnover.

  • The change forces at work are too strong to allow long-term stability of agreements.

Spouse has many secret, taboo dealings. The spouse may have connections to hidden sources of funding (such as anonymous donors to charities.)

For the spousal character+ L-8 in 7 need not = a nefarious quality; it can indicate skillful management of confidences and that invaluable ability to keep a secret.

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Assets expected from death or divorce from spouse, will remain with the spouse. Destruction of social balance, equity, harmony, agreement.

L-3 in bhava-7 = cannot agree on any alliance or decision for a sustained period of time; sudden, disruptive changes in contracts and agreements cause the re-imaging and re-configuring of relationships.

Secret forces overwhelm existing alliances. The spouse is an agent of transformation, destruction, and rebirth.

Planets in Signs and Houses, Bepin Behari (p. 150):

Example:

Dennis Hopper married 5 times; in divorce 5 on his deathbed, complained bitterly of the wife's inappropriate behavior

"In the Seventh Bhava, the eighth lord will make the marriage partner ill-mannered, and may lead to several marriages.

  • Even the relationship with one's business partners is soured.

But if the planet is associated with Mars, the result is quite favorable."

Public Figures

L-8 = Surya in bhava-8

L-8 = Chandra in bhava-8

L-8 = Mangala in bhava-8

L-8 = Budha in bhava-8

L-8 = Guru in bhava-8

L-8 = Shukra in bhava-8

L-8 = Shani in bhava-8

L-8 secrets, longevity, hidden money, hidden knowledge in Bhava 8 = conditions of death, Discovery, healing transformations, conspiracy, secret relationships, inheritance, camouflage, masking, disguise, sudden invasion, emergencies, disasters, eruption, catastrophic upheaval

Graha = born into randhra bhava becomes subject to the fast spinning of the cycle (8) of self-destruction and rebirth (8).

The speed of change-of-form may feel terrifying.

Conditions of death (8) contribute a defining element to the life story of the father.

Matters of the bhava that are ruled by graha situated in 8 are controlled by this fast-turning, re-cycling, identity-destroying and regenerating hidden life force.

Effects of graha in 8 can be frightening, secretive, occult, mysterious, hidden, shocking magical, rejuvenating and changing-changing-changing often with a sudden thrust of unexpected force.

Excellent placement for occult mysteries, discovery of hidden things, and revealing of secrets.

Agency of eruption, emergence, upheaval in bhava-8

Potentially dangerous or sudden, unexpected eruptions of force, social-material or psycho-emotional, find agency in the figure of the in-laws, secret liaisons of self or mate, healers, surgeons, occultists, mystics, detectives, disaster-responders, emergency workers, revolutionaries, secret operatives, those who spin the wheel of birth and death.

Destruction and rebirth (8) from utilization or realization of secret knowledge, from discovery of hidden truth or hidden resources, from occult practices (8) or via self-destructive behaviors (8).

  • Mangala-Mesha = self-destruction by fire.

The main value of inheritance from the parents and other immediate ancestors = Access to hidden and mysterious reservoirs of knowledge and magical practice, as well as the skills to conduct secret relationships.

Sudden, intensely transformative, and potentially catastrophic changes in matters of magic, tantra, emergencies, healing transformations, confidential information, surgery, joint assets of marriage, one's in-laws, and secret money , caused by discovery of a secret.

one may be an extraordinary healer who is able to consciously turn the cycle of death and rebirth, moving efficiently from form to form while maintaining a vital connection with one's own life force intelligence

Lacking the proper understanding, however, one is likely to find oneself suddenly widowed or divorced

suddenly at death's doorstep due to violent events

or have other rapid and unpredicted shocking changes o the physical and personality identity .

Mystical magic, sudden change-of-form.

periods of L-8 = Sudden Changes:

Example = John McCain loses Nov-2008 USA presidential election to Barack Obama

  • USA Senator John McCain = Kumbha lagna + Makara Chandra. Budha = L-8 from lagna [self, personality] + L-6 from Chandra [women].

  • When he lost the Nov-2008 election, Sen. John McCain was in the penultimate period of Budha-Budha-Guru, with only six months left until the onset of his intensely transformative period of L-8 Budha-Ketu. for McCain, the intensity of the L-8 destruction-and-rebirth capabilities is temporarily doubled because Budha is lord of Mithuna Ketu.

  • McCain's Budha = L-5 (politics) and during the first sub-sub periods of Budha/Budha he ran a fairly strong political campaign based on a large and wealthy Republican support network. In Budha/Budha/Rahu period, his handlers introduced a "wild card" (Rahu) vice-presidential running mate as McCain's proposed governing partner of the highest office in the nation: the publicity-loving female governor of Alaska, Mrs. Sarah Palin.

  • Mr. McCain's placement of Budha suffers from painfully close proximity between his analytical, strategic-thinking uchcha Budha and his Yogakarakaneechcha Shukra. McCain's two wives have provided overall support for his role in national politics. However, as always with the neechcha Shukra, McCain has always had personal trouble with women.

  • During the final weeks of the campaign, soon after Mrs. Palin's introduction, McCain's (second) wife Cindy suddenly appeared in public wearing an expression of irritated exhaustion. It was clear that she felt her aging husband had served his country enough; she wanted him to spend his final years in their family home, not in the White Bhava. Mrs. McCain talked publicly about her drug addictions (neechcha Shukra) while appearing to not support her husband's political interests at all.

  • Suddenly, an inarticulate running mate combined with drug-recovering wife plus a collapse of the national economy plunged the normally clear-spoken Mr. McCain into a nearly dumb state! His lead in the polls disappeared almost overnight.

  • In April 2009, his destruction-and-rebirth "I surrender" Budha-Ketu period arrived on schedule, finding Mr. McCain not only not being president, but quite completely finished with a super-busy talk-and-travel lifestyle that had dominated his existence for 30 years!

Just like that!

  • [note: of course in the big picture there MUST be supporting conditions to enforce such a sudden reversal in context of a very prominent national career. In Nov-2008 gochara Shani was transiting his Kumbha lagna, completing a long and difficult sade saati. Gochara Rahu had just finished transiting his Kumbha lagna and was destabilizing his Makara Moon. Clearly the man was exhausted.]

Dushthamsha lord residing in a dushthamsha generally gives good outcome. There are both easy and difficult implications.

The lord of transformative self-destructionhas entered the house of the circumstances of death and sudden, forced changes.

Transformative self-destruction

The end of life is shockingly fast, with little or no warning . May come via accident or rapid-onset of terminal illness. Whether the graha that occupies randhrasthana suggests a rapid exit at an old age (Shani) or a rapid exit at a young age (Chandra, Surya, Mangala, Shukra, Budha) or a youngish-middle age (Guru) it is nevertheless a decisive agency which predicts minimal preparation time.

1st-from-swakshetra. Pure and intense results for secret sources of empowerment for the physical body (athleticism, yoga mastery; muscular tone); transformative healing through the surgical skill; and tantric allure in material appearance of the social personality.

From Planets in Signs and Houses , by Bepin Behari , p. 150

"When the lord of the Eighth Bhava occupies its own sign in the eighth,

  • it fortifies the life force of the individual

  • and gives him special skill and extraordinary intelligence for unraveling hidden matters.

The marriage partner however will prove unfaithful,

  • and the native himself flouts all established decorum."

Public Figures

L-8 = Surya in bhava-9

L-8 = Chandra in bhava-9

L-8 = Mangala in bhava-9

L-8 = Budha in bhava-9

L-8 = Guru in bhava-9

L-8 = Shukra in bhava-9

L-8 = Shani in bhava-9

L-8 secrets, longevity, hidden money, hidden knowledge

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Bhava 9 = a Guru of Secrets the father, world travel, philosophy, universities, temples, sacred scripture, priesthood, wisdom-teaching

Religious Revelation

Wisdom and fortune (9) from inheritance (8) or from secret sources (8).

Sudden, intensely transformative, and potentially catastrophic discoveries in matters of one's father, guru, professor, and religious affiliation, caused by revelation of a secret.

  • Bhagwan Shree OSHO Rajneesh claimed to have discovered (8) his dharmic knowledge (9) via tantrik practices, meditation and introspection, after reading many philosophical and spiritual books

  • Father, father-figure, and religious teachers or preachers = the typical significators.

  • Also priests of the temple and officiants of university culture who are empowered to approve new professors, such as academic advisor and dissertation approval board.

Agency of eruption, emergence, upheaval in bhava-9

Potentially dangerous or sudden, unexpected eruptions of force, social-material or psycho-emotional, find agency in the figure of the father, guru, professor, priest, world travelers, teacher-preachers, panditi, university and temple personnel.

The father of "Sherlock Holmes" writer Arthur Conan Doyle suffered a severe mental breakdown, which was poorly diagnosed (8, undiagnosable ailments) and violently mistreated, leaving Father with a terrible addiction and a destroyed ego.

L-8 tantric and magical knowledge can be successfully used in the positive development of religious understanding , but this this utility is only available to those with adequate philosophical education.

The nature of the upset (8) affecting one's relationship with the father or philosophical teacher, or possibly the entire belief system, is further described by the karaka.

The most fundamental signification is the L-8 carries the force of death and rebirth (8) into bhava-9, so that the premature death of the father or guru shapes one 's consciousness in this life.

For example,

Chandra L-8 in 9 = father's (or guru's) hidden Own mother, or father's hidden liquids, secrets of the tides, the ocean

Mangala L-8 in 9 = father's (or guru's) hidden male sexuality and athleticism.

  • Tiger Woods' dad was a great golf guru and a promiscuous man.

Shukra L-8 in 9 = father's (or guru's) hidden-tantrik alliance, or dad's alcohol/sweets issues (or both).

Budha L-8 in 9 = father's (or guru's) hidden publications or reports, writings; can also be secret sexual relationships

Guru L-8 in 9 = hidden father and hidden husband.

  • Queen Victoria I's father died when she was 8 months old, and her husband's premature death famously thrust her into mourning for the rest of her life.

Shani L-8 in 9 = father's (or guru's) hidden rigidity, vulgarity, ignorance

For the younger person or one of otherwise inadequate apprehension, effects of L-8 in 9 are more likely to emerge as socially negative along the lines of covert, perhaps illicit behaviors of the father , or discovery of misbehavior of the guru or secret and contradictory implications of the orthodox religious teachings.

It is the signification of secret or mysterious knowledge which is encoded in sacred scripture that is potentially the most beneficial to the sufficiently educated one.

The main value of inheritance from the parents and other immediate ancestors = religious wisdom, including wisdom about the value of ritual performance regardless of underlying belief.

This is a particularly beneficial placement. L-8 in 9 indicates an inherited (8) connection to religious education, based in the parents' values and the parents' (perhaps hidden) relationships with religious teachers, ceremonial vows, and sacred temples.

Mystical religion.

  • If L-8 = an otherwise good graha, one may be blessed with a secret knowledge of wisdom-paths.

There is much acquisition or materialization of the earlier training, perhaps a blooming of the genetic predisposition toward wisdom-knowledge which is physically inherited from the parents, during the mahadasha of the L-8.

L-8 = a hidden function in life and this placement will not ordinarily assist the public acknowledgement of one's religious or moral teaching roles, except in specifically tantrik, esoteric, or magical subjects.

L-8 in dharma bhava reduces one 's inclination to indulge in public religious ceremonies but increases the power of magical teachings.

When Guru = L-8 in 9, one , or one's father may be prone to association with tantrik religious lineages that blur the distinction between esoteric and popular religious knowledge.

This is a socially dicey but exciting position which can result either in a fraudulent priesthood or in a great awakening through self-destruction and rejuvenation. One will not be accepted into the conventional temple priesthood but may have a religious empowerment nonetheless.

The lord of transformative destruction has entered the house of the father/parents, guru, priesthood, cultural ethos, ritual religion, and higher wisdom. 2nd-from-swakshetra: good results for secret sources of empowerment for food, family, face, and finance; transformative healing through (recovery of) family historylineage; and tantric allure in speech expressions of value and reckoning of mystical history.

Deep cycles of disruptive transformation affect the father. Father's deepest understanding of magical forces and transformative movements affects one . Sometimes this understanding is conceptually articulated and sometimes it is simply rhythmic, intuitive, and expressed in a lifestyle that accommodates catastrophic changes. " Often the father is not long-lived.

L-8 in bhava-9 = the father is self-destructive in some fashion, according to the character of the graha.

E.g.,

  • Lisa Marie Presley = father Elvis Presley; his death at age 42.

  • His self destructive behavior = over-eating, indicated in his daughter's nativity via her L-8 Guru in bhava-2, with her own Guru's dispositor being a morally weakened Makara Surya in her maraka bhava-7.

  • PM-Pakistan Benazir Bhutto = L-8 Budha + Ketu. When she was 27 (gochara Rahu=Ketu opposition) Ms. Bhutto's father Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto was executed by a military firing squad. "Blown apart" or "full of holes" = Ketu.

Father and guru are social changes agents, overt or covert. Conventional religion is destroyed, and in its place a more tantric philosophy based on secret teachings.

Father's life is short due to direct influence of the destroy-and-rebirth L-8. Very broad view of large-scale atomic, cellular, personal, social, and historic change cycles. Not deceived by change of form - thus, less impressed by public sacrifice and ritual religion (although rarely disrespectful of it).

One may become a guru within a privileged lineage, or abandon the priest/professor role altogether. In the best case, native teaches privileged insights into longevity/circumstances of death, the nature of empowerment and change, and the cycles of birth and death.

From Planets in Signs and Houses, by Bepin Behari (p. 150):

"In the ninth house,

  • the lord of the eighth may make the individual to lose his parents early in life.

He may lack moral integrity,

  • coveting the wealth or spouse of others."

Public Figures

L-8 = Surya in bhava-10 * dik bala

L-8 = Chandra in bhava-10

L-8 = Mangala in bhava-10 * dik bala

L-8 = Budha in bhava-10

L-8 = Guru in bhava-10

L-8 = Shukra in bhava-10

L-8 = Shani in bhava-10

"Controversial"

L-8 in 3rd-from-swakshetra. A volatile public image (10) associated in the popular view with unexpected upheaval and sudden change of identity (8).

L-8 secrets, longevity, hidden money, hidden knowledge

enters

Bhava 10 = leadership roles, governance, public responsibilities, reputation and respect, law and legislation, the social order

Typically benefits the native as through the auspice of lord of 11th from 10th one is able to gain employment in a government office although one rarely contributes much value to the organization.

unless one is a world-class healer with a loyal organization supporting the healing program, can be resented by bureaucrats since karmasthana belongs to Shani who does not like change, especially not the deeply transformative change which is delivered by the L-8.

Agency of eruption, emergence, upheaval in bhava-10

Potentially dangerous or sudden, unexpected eruptions of force, social-material or psycho-emotional, find agency in the figure of the government officials, boss, legislators, regulators, social policy makers, judges, the long arm of the law.

L-8 is all about profound and unexpected, sudden upheavals and it governs the turning of the cycle of life and death.

One may do an excellent job in promoting change of viewpoint from the top levels of visibility and even earn the regard of the rank-and-file workers at the bottom of the pyramid, but the co-executives and others charged with the sober business of ordering society may not take well to the secrecy and interest in hidden things which characterizes the behavior of the L-8.

Outside of the tantric specialties or perhaps the medical discipline of surgery, L-8 in 10 may not receive much praise from bureaucrats. It is a signification of numerous job changes with a Shifting public image that may erupt within the full range of unexpected criticism or remarkable acclaim.

A highly visible and identifiable symbol or exponent of occult knowledge, revelation of the forbidden, agent of public terror

  • Carla Bruni's extramarital (8) affair du coeur with French President 2007-2012 Nicholas Sarkosy became suddenly visible to the international public. L-8 being also L-9 Shani and the worldly-power uchchamsha Mangala in residence of randrasthana, the relationship was converted to legal marriage.

Public Emergencies

Leadership responsibilities (10) = a container for secrets (8) and may be a site of self-destruction (8).

Example

  • USA Pres-32, Franklin D. Roosevelt held ultimate responsibility for guiding the USA not only through the nearly fatal Great Depression but also, due to his exceptionally long term of office, through the terrors of World War II (when he died, the US was losing)

  • India-PM 1966-1977; 1980-84 Indira Gandhi repeatedly declared a state of emergency or martial law.

  • partner of USA Pres-41, mother of USA Pres-43, Mrs. Barbara Pierce Bush served as the official secret-keeper for countless officers of high government, including perhaps one very explosive secret. Shukra + Mangala, she was pleasant in the duty.

If the graha L-8 is favorable, the self-destruction is followed by a self-rebirth.

Sudden, intensely transformative, and potentially catastrophic changes in the definition of one's relationship to government bureaucracy and established, regulated social institutions , and the order of Law. Changes are caused by discovery of a secret

The main value of inheritance from the parents and other immediate ancestors = Ability to achieve highly respected and honorable positions of public leadership.

  • India-PM 1966-1977; 1980-84 Indira Gandhi inherited power from her father

Mystical leadership.

  • The lord of transformative destruction has entered the house of leadership, public respect, career and profession.

  • 3rd-from-swakshetra, results which improve over time(upachaya angle).

  • Native is a communicator and leader in situations of large-scale catastrophic, transformative change.

From Planets in Signs and Houses, by Bepin Behari (p. 150):

E.g.,

"In the tenth house, the lord of the eighth provides the individual with employment in government

  • but his professional efficiency is low,

  • and he is not well spoken of.

  • His mother dies early in his life."

Public Figures

L-8 = Surya in bhava-11

L-8 = Chandra in bhava-11

L-8 = Mangala in bhava-11

L-8 = Budha in bhava-11

L-8 = Guru in bhava-11

L-8 = Shukra in bhava-11 * dhanakaraka

L-8 = Shani in bhava-11

 Social-material gain (11) from bargains, terms of agreement

L-8 secrets, longevity, hidden money, hidden knowledge

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Bhava 11 = economies, communities, social and conceptual networks, social progress movements, marketplace profits

Hidden Income

Gains (11) from inheritance (8) or from secret funding sources (8)

Sudden, intensely transformative, and potentially catastrophic changes in matters of large, regulated systems including the economic system of the marketplace and networks of friendly association , caused by discovery of a secret.

  • golf champion Tiger Woods = huge change in earnings after sex scandal, 2008

Agency of eruption, emergence, upheaval in bhava-11

Potentially dangerous or sudden, unexpected eruptions of force, social-material or psycho-emotional, find agency in the figure of the father's younger brothers, one's own immediate elder sibling, mentor-type friends in the networked community; leaders of large-scale social movements, "friends with benefits", systems professionals and technicians, people who are connected into social relationship primarily via computer.

The main value of inheritance from the parents and other immediate ancestors = Ability to form a complex but tightly regulated network of mentoring associations through confidential and esoteric links.

Mystical networking.

The lord of transformative self- destruction has entered the house of gains, goals, community relationships and the marketplace.

  • It will be necessary to utilize confidential, privileged, or hidden information in order to achieve one's goals.

  • financier Warren Buffet

Profitability in life, the ability to be materially and socially gainful, depends on secret connections

If L-8 is unfortunate, unfavorable hidden relationships (Virginia Woolf, secretly sexually abused by her elder brother, 11). 4th-from-swakshetra: good results for secret property ownership, deepening of cultural roots, transformation and healing of the homeland.

From Planets in Signs and Houses, by Bepin Behari (p. 150):

"In the eleventh house,

  • one 's income is from secret, unscrupulous, or illegal sources."

Public Figures - Sarala Yoga

L-8 = Surya in bhava-12

L-8 = Chandra in bhava-12

L-8 = Mangala in bhava-12

L-8 = Budha in bhava-12

L-8 = Guru in bhava-12

L-8 = Shukra in bhava-12

  • clairsentient reader Edgar Cayce + Rahu + Budha + Shani

L-8 = Shani in bhava-12

L-8 secrets, longevity, hidden money, hidden knowledge

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Bhava 12 = prayer, spiritual guidance, dreams, sanctuary spaces, back-room dealings, distant lands, hotels, bedroom intimacy, imagination, research, long sojourn in foreign places, withdrawal from social-personality identity

Secret Sanctuary

Private bedroom, monastery, back-rooms, hotels, hospitals, and foreign lands (12) = a container for secrets (8) and may be a site of self-destruction (8). If the graha L-8 is favorable, the self-destruction is followed by a self-rebirth.

  • Sudden, intensely transformative, and potentially catastrophic changes in the definition of one's relationship to the ancestors, foreign lands, the world of the imagination, meditation and prayer , caused by discovery of a secret.

Agency of eruption, emergence, upheaval in bhava-12

Potentially dangerous or sudden, unexpected eruptions of force, social-material or psycho-emotional, find agency in the figure of the ancestor spirits, spiritual guides, the cloistered, those taking sanctuary, foreigners, activities of distant lands, clandestine relationships, enemies of the marriage (6th from 7) imaginary creatures, the mother's father (9th from 4) and the father's mother (4th from 9).

The main value of inheritance from the parents and other immediate ancestors = Ability to withdraw from the physical world, into the realm of dreams and clairsentient insight, to work directly with spirits through prayer and intuition.

  • Access to private sanctuary or Mystical retreat.

The lord of transformative self- destruction has entered the bhava of privacy, foreign lands, loss of identity, imagination, meditation, and sanctuary.

5th-from-swakshetra: good results for secret sources of empowerment for winnings, political gamesmanship, intelligence and creativity; transformative healing through children; and mystical allure in in entertainments or performance arts

Dushthamsha lord residing in a dushthamsha generally gives special opportunities to capitalize upon the misfortune of others = Sarala Yoga.

However much may be saddened by a loss, that loss will be the signal for one to move forward actively in life

  • Eleanor Roosevelt discovered (8) her husband's extramarital affairs, which ended her personal feelings (Chandra) of loyal affection for her husband, but started a highly patriotic (Chandra) diplomatic career traveling incognito to foreign lands, which proved to be essential for the national security (Chandra).

  • Eleanor Roosevelt's nativity is also a good example of how L-8 Chandra in 12 basically destroys the parents (Soma). However this yoga also converts (8) the parental attachments into patriotic affections. In the exalted case of Mrs. Roosevelt, her profound concern for all mothers and all children, esp those in living poverty in America, was a direct positive outcome of the loss-dissolution-destruction of her own parents..

Usually despite the advantages of Sarala Yoga there are both easy and difficult implications and the difficulties are significant.

Privacy (12) is largely destroyed by the L-8. However one may do great things in life by following the itinerant tantrik path, bringing previously hidden or esoteric knowledge to foreign lands.

From Planets in Signs and Houses, by Bepin Behari. p. 150

"If the lord of the Eighth Bhava is in the twelfth,

the individual is greatly attracted toward the "secret" pleasures of life,

  • spending money much beyond his means;

  • he often dies ignominiously in a foreign land

  • and without respectable funeral rites.

These results however are likely to be altered by the influence of benefics or other auspicious horoscopic combinations."

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