Om Graam Greem Graum Sah Gurve Namah

Guru

in Mantra Bhava 5

Jupiter in the fifth house

Public Figures

• Christian Science healing Mary Baker Eddy + Shani

• "TM" Maharishi Mahesh Yogi

• Harry Potter" writer J.K. Rowling + uchcha Rahu

• "Interior Castle" writer, Santa Teresa de Avila + Mangala

• theosophy icon Jiddu Krishnamurti + Shukra + Mangala

• philosopher, mathematician, activist Bertrand Russell

• journalist Maria O. Shriver

• dramatist, balladeer Judy Garland + Shani + Rahu

• USA Pres-1, George Washington

Guru in Thula

• horror fiction writer Stephen King + Ketu + neechcha Chandra

• Queen of England Elizabeth I (b. 1533)

• fiction writer Rudyard Kipling + Budha + Surya + Mangala + Shukra

• balladeer Phil Collins + Shukra + Mangala + Rahu

Often prevents children, or if they are born prevents the opportunity of having very much interaction with them.

If Guru = neechcha, possible early loss of the first child

Tends to channel the creative genius into works of high civilization rather than fleshly reproduction.

If Guru = lagnesha, expanded intelligence marks the personality. May be a polymath philosopher, with a very broad capacity for understanding.

If Guru is swakshetra or uchcha with His lord well disposed, a karaka for great wealth through intelligence, speculative winnings or royalties on publication of creative works.

Favors success in politics, speculation, amusements, entertainments, authorship, dramatically personal style of statesmanship (if L-10 is also good).As 11th-from-7th, gain through spouse and partners. (Classically, gain of children through marriage partner.)

Not ideal for children. Karako bhavo nashto suggests that although these offspring will no doubt be light-bringers, the offspring are attention-magnets with a certain self-righteous or self-entitled quality.

Most commonly Guru-5 indicates political success, charismatic students and artistic creativity, but no biological children. (Always check 5th-from Chandra, 5th-from-Guru, and drishti into bhava-5 to ascertain the final outcome regarding progeny.)

• theosophy icon Jiddu Krishnamurti Guru + Shukra + Mangala

• Queen of England Elizabeth I

• "TM" Maharishi Mahesh Yogi

However, children may easily enter the life via other channels:

• USA Pres-1, George Washington helped to raise the children of his widowed wife's previous marriage and her grandchildren as well

Guru yuti Rahu-5 is complex due to a great desire (Rahu) for children combined with simultaneous expansion (Guru) of the political or dramatic talents. Children are born but as they compete for creative resources, others may need to raise the children. The "lion's share" (5) of the creative resources are directed into career.

Also if there are other graha in bhava-5 along with Guru, the prediction changes according to the influence of those graha. Shani in bhava-5 is especially karmic.

• dramatist, balladeer Judy Garland Guru + Shani + Rahu had four children, but she struggled to care for them and often separated from them

• Christian Science healing Mary Baker Eddy Guru + Shani had one son who was taken from her due to her illness; he was moved to another state against her will (5)

• Stephen King + Ketu + neechcha Chandra has three interesting children; his eldest has an alternative lifestyle (Ketu)

• Harry Potter" writer J.K. Rowling Guru + Rahu has three beloved children; conditions surrounding her first child were exceptionally difficult at first but Rahu being uchcha Ms. Rowling's creativity was greatly magnified

• fiction writer Rudyard Kipling Guru+ Budha + Surya + Mangala + Shukra = a very complex and tragic situation. His three children all died, two of disease and one by weapon, before the end of their 18th year.

If other graha stimulate the production of children, the circumstances of child-production = "big" (Guru) suggesting a large inclusive family, and public philosophical guidance or religious beliefs affecting the larger sizing.

Internationalized expansion can include all the world's children, and even when Guru-5 blocks personal reproduction the native may feel a religious vocation toward global (Guru) rights and entitlements (5) for the younger generation.

If Guru is strong, may become wealthy through games, theatrical performance, entertainments, authorship, politics, amusements.

Agents of approval, admiration, applause = priests and wisemen.

Wisdom-teaching and performance of ceremonial duties are the primary means of gaining ego-validation, attention and approval.

• theosophy icon Jiddu Krishnamurti

Female's partner karaka = Guru

Often, the female native meets her life partner in an entertainment setting, such as a theatrical performance or political event.

The partner's identification with personal performance genius as the channeling of divine intelligence is important to her, and the partner's love of their children may form the basis of the union.

• First marriage for female characterized by political and theatrical expansion. The marriage might not bring children, but the creative intelligence is stimulated. Literary and performance art are featured.

Regardless of the external conditions of the union, the female will retain a respect for the power of intelligent parenting and a belief in its importance in her life.