Excellent position for creative performers but somewhat stressful due to the shad-ashtaka6-8 angle showing willful resistance to conformist public-duty roles, and sometimes overt conflict with the government.
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Rashi * Gochara

Bhava * Graha * Ratna

Nakshatra * Amsha


The Planetary Regulator of





Ruler of 5th-from-Chandra

in the Twelve Bhava

role of the putra pathi

Public Figures

vidyapathi-5 = Surya in bhava-1

vidyapathi-5 = Chandra in bhava-1

vidyapathi-5 = Mangala in bhava-1


vidyapathi-5 = Budha in bhava-1 * dig-bala

vidyapathi-5 = Guru in bhava-1 * dig-bala


vidyapathi-5 = Zukra in bhava-1


vidyapathi-5 = Shani in bhava-1


Everyone has some type of dramatic performance intelligence. Wherever the vidya-pathi is placed, see the higher expressions of charismatic brilliance emitting from the celebrated ruler of bhava-5.

Normally this is a position that connotes fame, genius, individual intelligence, celebrity, a lack of concern for social restrictions, entitlement, creativity, and excellent fortune in matters of of gambling and speculation.

vidyapathi-5 in philosophical, professorial, paternalistic 9th-from-swakshetra = bhava- 1 = Raja Yoga, and hugely auspicious for creative endeavors of any kind.

Identified with politics, celebrity, creativity, games, and entertainments.

Brings the agency of bhagya = fortune of 5 = into the physical identity, material body, and visual appearance.

Identity personality and physical appearance affiliated with

genius, games, creative intelligence, celebrity, politics

entertainers, charmers, genii

  • Microsoft 1955- philanthropist Bill Gates * vidyapathi Chandra-1 * = the iconic face of his company, frequently appearing in meeting with federal agents, gatherings of stockholders, and user conventions (3)

A charismatic and large-aura personality: politically and theatrically radiant with abundant life-force energies .


Celebrities in Drama and Performing Arts

Uniquely intelligent, literary personalities

Generally a less easy position for a female, since vidyapathi-5 and lagnesha-1 are masculine placements.

However can be successful for the female politician when vidyapathi-5 = yogakaraka Shani

When a friendly, compatible lagnesha occupies a trine angle toward the vidyapthi, exceptional fortune may occur in matters of gaming, fame, and speculative intelligence.

Very supportive placement for politics and winners of power contests;

  • celebrity bright and regally confident.

Chandra-1 prominent parents

  • Microsoft 1955- philanthropist Bill Gates * vidyapathi Chandra-1++ Chandra in Uttara-bhadra-pada * Both of his parents, but particularly his mother, were high-visibility participants in the fund-raising gala, party, entertainment-focused charity circuit of affluent philanthropic Seattle society


vidyapathi-5 in lagna typically thrives in creativity-charged intelligent environments and adores Children .

  • Mormon Church 1805-1844 Golden Plates Joseph Smith + Chandra * parivartamsha lagnesha-1 uttama-Shani-10. Father of eight born into his first marriage.

  • Although not a father himself, Knowledge of Higher Worlds 1861-1925 Rudolf Steiner dedicated considerable intelligence (5) to matters of creativity and dramatic performance for children

Depending on the characteristics of vidyapathi-5 and its relationship to Chandra (parenting), the vidyapathi-5 in lagna may just as easily take the role of Great Teacher philosophizing upon children (vidyapathi-5 in 9th from swakshetra) or priest or father figure. If vidyapathi-5 = Chandra, more likely to take the more mundane parenting-role

  • Hugging Saint 1953- Ammach of Kerala

  • Aquero 1844-1879 St. Bernadette of Lourdes + Budha-yuti-Shani * Zukra vidypathi. Due to Shani-1 and Rahu-12, she resisted the fame thrust upon her by attempted handlers both within and outside of the Church. She craved and eventually was rewarded with sanctuary in a local convent. Nevertheless (and typical of Uttara-azadha lagna) a cult formed quickly around her feminine personality (Zukra) and a great shrine to the Virgin was funded by the Church in celebration (5) of the shepherd girl's visions.

Fortunate, financially privileged often,

blessed with children either offspring or devoted students,

optimistic and creative.

Adores politics, even if one is not a contender oneself, may be identified and involved in the charismatic excitement. Dhavakaraka-Guru-1 feminine-figures often marry a politician.

When the indicator of intelligence vidyapathi ruler of 5 (rights, entitlements ) occupies bhava-1 self, the person is identified with political entitlements and expressions of individuality

  • Wikileaks 1971- Julian Assange has not been a political campaigner but as a publisher is both involved and influencing political outcomes.

Wins at gambling and succeeds in speculative ventures;

exhibits creative genius;

gets out of most scrapes through abundant natural charm;

cheerfully productive and enjoys life.

Naturally entitled; radiant; charming; attracts admiration and applause.

"I am my speculative creativity, my entertainment skills, my political genius, and my confident intelligence."

Adolescent minded, center-stage, political, youth culture, children, innocent love, charm, bhakti, adventure, entertainment, creativity, ingenuity, wealth through speculation,

The social identity * bhava-1* is infused with the qualities of political elections, winnings, casinos, gaming and gambling, romance, amusements and entertainments , performance arts, individualism,

independent thought, poetic love and attraction * akarshana * , divine intelligence, brilliant new perceptions and new ideas .

Public Figures

vidyapathi-5 = Surya in bhava-2 * political, creative, literary, unique expression of political, dramatic, or intellectual values

vidyapathi-5 = Chandra in bhava-2 * political, creative, literary, unique expression of secure traditional values

vidyapathi-5 = Mangala in bhava-2 * political, creative, literary, unique expression of championship, competitive, activist values


vidyapathi-5 = Budha in bhava-2 * political, creative, literary, unique expression of mental knowledge-values

vidyapathi-5 = Guru in bhava-2 * political, creative, literary, unique expression of multiple, global or humanistic values


vidyapathi-5 = Zukra in bhava-2 * political, creative, literary, unique expression of artistic-financial values


vidyapathi-5 = Shani in bhava-2 * political, creative, literary, unique expression of social-ordering values


Creative intelligence for politics, dramatic arts and entertainment enters the voice-face-speech-song

Everyone has some type of dramatic performance intelligence. Wherever the vidya-pathi-5 is placed, see the higher expressions of charismatic brilliance emitting from the center-stage, drawing-applause, fame-game ruler of bhava-5.

vidyapathi-5 in bhava- 2

political and dramatic intelligence expresses via speech, song, knowledge, lineage-treasuries

Gives a capacity to opine (5) intelligently upon matters of social importance (vidyapathi-5 in 10th from swakshetra) which may produce a "thought leader" in matters of values assessment (2). Broad, speculative, and creative (5) view of history (2).

Easy access to collections of books, songs, memories, treasuries of lineage history, and productive social use (10th) of these assets, but usually not a designated controller of these hoards e.g. not a banker, herder, or treasuries manager per se.

However unless there are other materializing dhana-yoga in the nativity, the collected wealth of bhava-2 may be experienced as treasury of intelligence (5) rather than treasury of financial wealth , depending upon the individual graha and their lords.

One may expect to be protected from dire straits of poverty (unless the satkona is greatly empowered). However great riches are generally not forecast as the native's sense of important values (2) has been intellectualized by the Vidyapthi-5.

  • Earth Changes 1877-1945 Edgar Cayce + Mangala * Casey might perhaps have acquired an estate by collecting income from his clairsentient readings but instead he invested in a healing hospital which failed, and other failed ventures too

  • Mad Monk 1869-1916 Romanov Grigori Rasputin rose from remote peasant to top status in the Russian royal court and he took bribes enough to support his lifestyle but was not considered greedy in fact he was distinguished by generosity

Brings the agency of bhagya = fortune of 5 = into the realm of bhava- 2 = historical values, collections, Sustenance / values / food / wealth / birth family

  • carrying the personal genius, delight in games , sparkling creative intelligence, and charm of courtly politics

enters the world of

treasuries of family lineage, speech and song, knowledge of language and history, and heaped-up (skandha) storage chests of stored wealth

vidyapathi-5 in 10th-from-swakshetra increases the social visibility

Ruler of 2 in 5, or ruler of 5 in 2, generally benefits the public reputation due to their dignified 4-10 angle * so long as there are no papa-graha in 2. With Mangala, Rahu, or Shani located in bhava-2, care must be taken to rein the speech.

  • France-Queen 1775-1793 Marie Antoinette * Vrischika-Budha-7 parivartamsha Mithunaya-Kuja-2 . Mangala-2 gains considerable strength. Her initial impression upon the French public was favorable. However an outspoken style of speech eventually caused her unconsidered mentions of contempt for the suffering to become a source of deep hatred. Her Austrian family were perceived as predatory (Mangala).

Unless bhava-2 is damaged, vidyapathi-5 in 2 = Quite good for having personal money (apart from joint marriage funds)

happiness in the relationship with the children.

Usually when vidyapathi-5 occupies the professional 10th from putra-bhava, one's children have high-visibility careers.

  • Material Girl 1958- dance song cinema Madonna * her eldest daughter is likely to become a high profile creative personality

  • Iran-Shah 1772-1834 Fat'h Ali Shah Qajar * his sons succeeded to leadership positions such as provincial governors

  • POTUS-43 Decision Points 1946- George W. Bush + USA-Gov-FL 1953- Jeb Bush ++ political fundraiser 'Doro' Bush Koch .

  • the four children of UK-Queen 1926- Elizabeth-2 are celebrity figures

Das commentary :

IF The lord of the 5 is in 2nd ,

and the lord of the 5 has at least one beneficial placement attribute:

"You will have a large family,

be intelligent, and will know astrology.

You will be good in the art of prediction.

You will enjoy good food.

Your spouse will be affectionate.

You will make money through God's grace and through your connections with people."

Public Figures

vidyapathi-5 = Surya in bhava-3 * brilliant expression of political, dramatic, or intellectual communications


vidyapathi-5 = Chandra in bhava-3 * brilliant expression of emotional communications

vidyapathi-5 = Mangala in bhava-3 * brilliant expression of championship, competitive, activist communications * innovative scripting

vidyapathi-5 = Budha in bhava-3 * brilliant expression of mental-messaging communications * political announcements


vidyapathi-5 = Guru in bhava-3 * brilliant expression of multiple, global or humanistic communications


vidyapathi-5 = Zukra in bhava-3 * brilliant expression of aesthetic-financial communications


vidyapathi-5 = Shani in bhava-3 * brilliant expression of social-order communications

vidyapathi-5 in gainful, profit-earning 11th-from-swakshetra = Sahaja bhava- 3

Highly beneficial placement for writers, publishers, announcers, journalists, evangelists.

Brings the agency of bhagya = fortune of 5 = into the realm of bhava- 3

Profitable 11th-from-5th indicates revenues and awards from entertainment, politics, creative environments. Strengthened if Shukra dhanakaraka, Surya, or Budha writing.

  • Swing Time 1911-1995 dance theatre Ginger Rogers * Zukra-SImha-3 = scriptwriting for cinema; autobiography; conferences, presentations; ensemble work

the vidyapathi-5 genius of games and entertainments , creative intelligence, charisma, and politics enters the world of verbal-mental world of publications, writing, media production, and commercial business entertainment in meetings, romantic literature, cheerful and bright expressions of daily view

siblings and cousins / teamwork and collaboration / reports and announcements / administration of business / Local group / mental process

  • POTUS-pair-39 Mental Health 1927- Rosalynn Smith Carter * Budha rules-5 occupies-3 = ruler of 3rd-from-3rd occupies 3rd. She has spent much of her lifetime public career engaged in ensemble speaking tasks such as delivering announcements and presentations, attending meetings, and writing publications.

Children are general gainful and well-networked socially due to vidyapathi-5 in 11th from swakshetra

highly benevolent placement for profit (11) from political theatre, photographs, drama (5) played out in messaging media such as radio-television-cinema-internet, and literary (5) publications (3)

  • POTUS-04 USA-Constitution 1751-1836 James Madison extensive political papers

  • Sound and Fury 1897-1962 novelist William Faulkner

  • My Inventions 1856-1943 Nikola Tesla = drawings, diagrams, articles, expository displays - all still read 100 years after their creation and still mined for ideas

Splendid placement for Writers and Announcers, especially when Budha is involved

favors autobiographical or dramatic content

Speculative intelligence and a tendency toward self-projection + theatrical performance in thought-group ensemble; communications.

One works in teams but must be at the center of the team

Auspicious for writers seeking publication, particularly creative writers.

One's best ideas (5) may bear fruit in publication

  • Miraculous Medal 1806-1876 St. Catherine Laboure * uttama * after clairsentiently receiving design instructions (3) in a dream in 1830, Catherine told her confessor. He did nothing until 1832, then he arranged to have her medals crafted by a reputed Paris metalworker. The craftsman sold 2-million of the medals 1832-1836, and the design has been in continuous production in a variety of metals for nearly 200 years.

  • Meditations 1596-1650 logic Rene Descartes + Zukra-yuti-Chandra * Budha-3 parivartamsha Kuja-5 ** legendary philosophical discourses which were popular among intellectuals during the 1600's and still in print 400 years later.

  • Raja Yoga 1863-1902 Swami Vivekananda * wrote and published many philosophical works (Guru-3) during his brief but extremely productive Guru Mahadasha

  • Harmonices Mundi 1571-1630 Johannes Kepler helped to usher in the 17th-century Age of Enlightenment in Europe (and eventually in Euro-America) via his numerous widely-read books, tracts, treatises, and printed "conversations ". Face-to-face, he was said to have been a less pleasant person; but in an age of difficult travel, his published writings made a great impression on the scientific discourse of the day.

Benefits the long-term success in the message-writing and media-production professions

  • POTUS-06 American System 1767-1868 John Quincy Adams * Surya-yuti-Shani * before accepting the presidency, his entire career consisted of writing diplomatic missives carried by courier to other emissaries

  • Ethica ordine geometrico 1632-1677 Baruch Spinoza + Surya-yuti-Budha * he was excommunicated by the Jewish leadership and publically reviled by the Christian leadership. His books were banned. Yet, 400 years later, all of Spinoza's brilliant philosophical writings are still being carefully read.

Public Figures

vidyapathi-5 = Surya in bhava-4


vidyapathi-5 = Chandra in bhava-4 * dig-bala

vidyapathi-5 = Mangala in bhava-4


vidyapathi-5 = Budha in bhava-4

vidyapathi-5 = Guru in bhava-4

vidyapathi-5 = Zukra in bhava-4 * dig-bala

vidyapathi-5 = Shani in bhava-4


vidyapathi-5 in bhava- 4 resides in the quiet-seeking, retreating, meditative, imaginative, distant, invisible, dissolving, dreamy, clairsentient 12th-from-swakshetra .

Agency of bhagya fortune of 5 goes into the realm of bhava-4, bringing familiar home-culture into the genius of games, creative intelligence, performance arts, and politics

Self-confident, fashionable, entitled vidyapathi-5 enters the world of schooling, property ownership, parents, homeland, housing, protection, and emotional-social security, home * folkways * foundations * schooling

  • Germinal 1840-1902 J'accuse Emile Zola wrote about the daily rhythms and customary lives of the emerging bourgeois classes in 1800's France. Mangala-Surya-Chandra in 4 increases the emotional familiarity (Chandra) of his descriptions while Surya allowed a large measure of political and celebrity energy in the literary performance. Although Zola was demonized occasionally for his portrayal of modernizing, pretentious French families and the charming hypocrisy of their daily lives, and his outspoken defense (Mangala) of a countryman (4) Dreyfus against ethnic racism (4), overall his writings were hugely successful. Due to their brilliance, his fictions are still read in colleges 200 years later.

Creates some distance from the children .

Often the children have a second home (perhaps a joint-custody parent who lives some distance away) or attend a boarding school

  • due to the nature of his cinematic work which requires long absence during on-location filming, Top Gun 1962 cinema producer Tom Cruise has had extended absences from his children

Drains energy (12th-from) from the vitality of the children. The eldest child may become an educator, transportation expert, real-estate magnate, or farmer, depending upon the badnhupathi.


  • is based in the home environment, in the farm, in school, in vehicles


  • children are generally quiet and home-oriented, not much outgoing, but typically well-educated

Public Figures

vidyapathi-5 = Surya in bhava-5 * swabhava *

vidyapathi-5 = Chandra in bhava-5

vidyapathi-5 = Mangala in bhava-5


vidyapathi-5 = Budha in bhava-5 * Putra-sukha yoga

vidyapathi-5 = Guru in bhava-5


vidyapathi-5 = Zukra in bhava-5

vidyapathi-5 = Shani in bhava-5


vidyapathi-5 in bhava- 5

Brings the agency of bhagya = fortune of 5 = into the realm of bhava-5

  • the genius of games, creative intelligence, performance arts, and politics enters the world of children - willfulness - gambling - games - celebration - fame

  • brilliant performance and centrality of personal intelligence in politics, romance, creative and speculative endeavors

Splendid placement for anyone who spends a good deal of time at the center of public attention

creative performers, speculator, game-players, stage artists, politicians

One's own childhood would have been independent of the family pressures and one's sense of personal creativity is strongly supported.

Shani will constrain and structure the expression of both physical and psychological freedom in both the childhood experience and the adult output of creative art.

Yet even in the case of vidyapathi Shani, one is permitted to develop as a unique individual person. Typical of the youngest or only child in a family who is less constrained by the group and left to their own devices.

Romance is dramatic, larger than life, and intelligent.

one seeks romantic self-definition through children, through lovers, and through the theatrical-literary performance arts.

  • Memories Dreams Reflections 1875-1961 Carl Jung was not only a prolific and creative writer focused on the narrative (Budha) psychology of relationships (Zukra) but also he maintained several famous lovers (5) and several interesting children (5). Due to bantering Budha's communicative skill, he wrote it all down for his audience.

Divine Intelligence expressed through children, politics, speculation, literary and performance arts.

A super-performer, designed for entertainment and constant publicity (except Shani)

  • Moneyball 1963- drama-commerce Brad Pitt

  • Publisher 1960-1999 attorney JFK-Jr + Zukra-yuti-Shani = not so easy to handle the constant public attention due to Shani-5

One generally remains in the public eye throughout life, although one may change roles; whatever is the role of the moment, however, tends to be a center-stage performance

  • even when fame is notoriety for terrible crimes, the publicity is endless = Charles Manson


Children are independent minded and self-defining. Depending on the quality of the Vidyapthi-5, children may be granted more or less freedom (much less if Shani) but whether physically free or not, their spirits are considered independent of the family culture.

Not tethered to the parents' values or perceptions, given a separate space in the home or otherwise separated by boarding school or other distinctive individualizing treatment.

Only vidyapathi-5 = Mangala in bhava-5 has truly challenging implication for children. If Guru casts His abundant drishti upon Chandra or Guru casts His abundant drishti upon putrasthana-5, children likely will arrive. However when Mangala-5 combines with other factors, therapeutic or natural abortions are signified (with live birth eventually forecast after much travail). Look for additional information from 5th-from-Chandra, 9th-from-Chandra, radical bhava-9 and its ruler, and periods of Guru in the Vimshottari Dasha to compose an overall forecast regarding procreations.

rings the agency of bhagya fortune of 5

from genius, games, creative intelligence, and politics * into the bhava- of romance, celebrity-royalty, self-expression, theatre, applause, and children.

vidyapathi-5 resides in swakshetra.

Comfortable and fortunate placement for creative or dramatic performance.

Regal, brilliant, delightful -- although slightly more somber when Shani rules the brilliant 5th.

Broad ability to channel divine intelligence.

Sustains creative output. Wonderfully auspicious for literati, theatre actors, every type of stage performer, artist, fashionista, gamer, and politician .

Public Figures

vidyapathi-5 = Surya in bhava-6

vidyapathi-5 = Chandra in bhava-6

vidyapathi-5 = Mangala in bhava-6

vidyapathi-5 = Budha in bhava-6

vidyapathi-5 = Guru in bhava-6 * multiple service ministries; many health issues


vidyapathi-5 = Zukra in bhava-6 * pleasure in service-servants; addictions


vidyapathi-5 = Shani in bhava-6


vidyapathi-5 in bhava- 6 carries the fortunate agency of bhagya from the political, dramatic 5th-bhava into the unbalanced, exploitive, and accusatory - but also service ministering - realm of ripu bhava

As an expression of a ministry of service, vidyapathi-5 in bhava-6 can produce a variety of outcomes. One of the most common expressions is political corruption in the form of bribery and kickbacks. Another expression is use of charisma for criminal purposes, such as charming children into trafficking traps.

Another expression could be conscious use of political power to address the needs of the marginalized or exploited classes. Often the same person can do several of these these activities, mixing service with exploitation, mixing ministry with crime.

Politicians and royalty who may need to specialize in hostile argument, accusation, war, conflict, crime, disease, exploitation, toxicity, social or chemical pollution, poverty, grievance, slavery, animosity, injustice, attacks

  • England-Queen 1533-1603 Elizabeth-1 waged an ongoing war of piracy against Atlantic shipping competitors. Her aggressive maritime forces notoriously engaged the vastly more powerful Spanish Armada and won the contest, adding military conquest (6) into the portfolio of her royal empowerments (5). However she constantly struggled with political competitors who tried to seize her royal throne or trick her out of its entitlements.

  • POTUS-04 USA-Constitution 1751-1836 James Madison * Kuja-6 parivartamsha Guru-10. Madison supervised the devastating War of 1812 against Britain and against many Native American tribes who allied with Britain. This war was financially and militarily exhausting, and excruciating for Madison who was a career diplomat accustomed to brokering treaties rather than marshaling weapons. It crippled and nearly annihilated the young nation. He also suffered a wayward often-jailed son (ruler of 5-children in 6-jail).

  • POTUS-14 Bleeding Kansas 1804-1869 Franklin Pierce * Brigadier General in the Mexican Wars

  • Satyagraha 1869-1948 Mahatma Mohandas Gandhi

  • UK-PM Finest Hour 1874-1965 Winston Churchill + Surya

  • POTUS-08 Democratic Party 1782-1862 Martin Van Buren + Surya-yuti-Budha

  • POTUS-37 Watergate 1913-1994 Richard Nixon * Kuja-yuti-Guru + Surya-yuti-Budha

creative, political action on behalf of the victim classes, on behalf of the sick, on behalf of the poor enters the world of Loss of agreement - enemies - disease - Poverty - Crime - exploitation - victims

If a malefic vidyapathi-5 in 2nd-from- swakshetra = karaka for the death of children, particularly the first child. May choose social work or medical service serving child-victims, particularly those who were harmed by their own families.

Service specialties which address the speech, values, or family traditions of children include child-psychology, speech pathology, and legal child advocacy, according to the dignity of the malefic graha.

Whether malefic or benefic, wealth can be accumulated through children, and through creative activities in literature, performance art, speculation, entertainment and politics.


Bhava-6 = Budha's house of argument and criticism. vidyapathi-5 in satkona can expect to receive abundant criticism regarding one's children, personal genius, performance art (theatre, literature), gaming, and political activities.

Matters of children or politics may become scandalous or even criminalized.

  • POTUS-08 Democratic Party 1782-1862 Martin Van Buren * Zukra + Surya + Budha * parivartamsha rogesha-6 Mangala-5. Van Buren was personally blamed for the massive economic recession during his presidency; his alcohol drinking (Zukra-6) and financial mismanagement led opponents to label him "Martin Van Ruin".

  • Foursquare Evangelist 1890-1944 Aimee Semple McPherson was able to raise her children as a single mother largely by supervision from her own mother, but her unique ministry combining religious indoctrination (Guru) with entertainment (5) and her status as a second-class person in a male-dominated career (religion nichha-Guru-6) all combined to make her the target of misogynistic attacks

If benefic, vidyapathi-5 in satkona likes to make "political speeches" which are charming but at least potentially misleading. Theatrical talents put to exploitative use. May be a charlatan who advocates wealth-building but steals the investment money.

Pyramid schemes, political promises, chain letters, multi-level-marketing, other glamorization or rationalization for exploitation of those below. The excessively sunny viewpoint of a benefic bhagya lord when imposed upon the dark environment of bhava-6, results in severe "cognitive dissonance". vidyapathi-5 in satkona = sincere inability to accept responsibility and deep psychological denial can mask some serious exploitation.

If vidyapathi-5 is dignified possibility for a creative (5) approach to conflict management (5) or a good career in health ministry (6) for children (5).

Damaged entitlements (5)

  • UK Earl 1964- Edward of Wessex + Surya-yuti-Kuja + Budha-yuti-Shani At the time of his birth, the Earl of Wessex had a close position the queue to become King. However as his elder siblings' children matured, his eligibility for the role moved farther away from realization.

Political enemies

  • Walden 1817-1862 abolition Henry David Thoreau was a tireless preacher against the evils of American slavery, and a vigorous proponent of federal abolition law. He suffered many political enemies --mainly those who extracted an economic profit from the slavery system.


Often vidyapathi-5 in 6 signals the absence of children due to disagreement (6) between the spouses regarding the choice whether to have children; the spouse who has vidyapathi-5 in 6 may feel like the victim of a mate who does not want children and who may threaten divorce (6) if children are brought into the marriage.

James Madison did not produce his own children, but he did adopt his wife's son from her widowed previous marriage. Plagued by alcoholism and compulsive gambling habits, Payne Todd turned out to be an ongoing disaster.

  • POTUS-04 USA-Constitution 1751-1836 James Madison adopted the surviving son from her previous marriage of POTUS-pair-04 hostess 1768-1849 Dolley Madison. Despite his stepfather's high social status , stepson Payne Todd Madison developed a disconnected wandering lifestyle plagued by alcoholism and gambling. He was in and out of jail including debtor's prison. His mismanagement of Madison's plantation destroyed Madison's assets and plunged Dolley Madison into penury in her old age. Shani-yuti-Rahu-Vrischika occupies 5 while aggressive putrapathi-Mangala-6.

However if the karmic process requires the production or acquisition of children, then vidyapathi-5 in bhava-6 may indicate health-related difficulties affecting the production of children .

  • POTUS-14 Bleeding Kansas 1804-1869 Franklin Pierce * all three of his sons died before age 12. Pierce and his wife Jane Appleton watched each of their children died (Surya rules-6 watching eye).

Alternatively conflict in the relationship with children, especially when the children become adults.

  • UK-PM Finest Hour 1874-1965 Winston Churchill * vidyapathi-5 Zukra in bhava-6. Mr. Churchill's relationship with his adult children was icy. A military professional and overall curmudgeon (mriga-sirasa) Mr. Churchill was immersed in the culture of conflict. After his tremendous service to Britain during two periods of prime-ministership, Churchill then retired into pursuit of his favorite pastime: drinking alcohol (Zukra-6) and criticizing his opponents. He abusively criticized (6) his children in public. In the end, despite their father's public fame, several of his alienated offspring entered into private "no contact" relationship with their father.

  • The eldest child of Satyagraha 1869-1948 Mahatma Mohandas Gandhi suffered from numerous maladies including alcoholism; he disowned his famous father and his birth faith expressing deep conflict and self-contempt throughout his life.

Also commonly the eldest child is karmically scheduled to be working on health-related problem-sets during the present lifetime.

  • POTUS-21 Civil Service 1829-1886 Chester A. Arthur + Kuja-yuti-Rahu * first child was born in Rahu-Rahu period, lived for three years, then died at the end of Rahu-Rahu period. The parents were devastated but they gave birth to two additional children afterward.

Alternatively, the relationship with the eldest child may be that of master-servant. The child is bound into some variety of servitude.

Financial speculation (5) imbalance

Creatively Exploiting the creativity of others

vidyapathi-5 resides in 2nd-from-swakshetra .

rings the agency of bhagya fortune of 5

  • from genius, games, creative intelligence, and politics

  • into the realm of social conflict and intra-bodily conflict (dis-ease).

Excellent position for a politician who can bring the charisma of 5 into the world of ethnic, class, and inter-demographic conflict as well as issues of debt or financial mismanagement .


Restricts the fertility, may damage the reproductive health.

  • England-Queen 1533-1603 Elizabeth-1 is speculated to have lost her fertility during a near-death struggle with smallpox in her late 20's. However she has an additional compounding feature of randhresha-8 Chandra in 5 which also tends to prevent biological children (providing instead financial well-being).

In case there are children, the first child may be ill, adversarial toward one, or suffer heavy debts.

  • eldest son of"Ringo" Beatle Richard Starkey is a talented drummer like his father, but also like his father developed a severe alcoholism and premature marriage (afflicted Zukra)

Favors adoption of children from disadvantaged backgrounds.


  • Love relationships with assistants, servants and employees.

- BPHS, Ch 24, shloka 54

"If Putra's lord is in Ari Bhava,

one will obtain such sons who will be equal to his enemies,

or will lose them,

or will acquire an adopted or purchased son."

Das commentary = Aputra Yoga

  • "The lord of the 5 is in 6

  • or the lord of the 5 is in 8

  • or the lord of the 5 is in 12."

"The Lord of the fifth is in a Dushthana, a difficult house, which creates "Aputra" Yoga.

  • This means that there might be problems around the issues of having or keeping children,

  • or the child, especially the first one might at times bring problems of some kind into your life."

Public Figures

vidyapathi-5 = Surya in bhava-7

  • cult murderer Charles Manson =nichha

vidyapathi-5 = Chandra in bhava-7

vidyapathi-5 = Mangala in bhava-7

vidyapathi-5 = Budha in bhava-7


vidyapathi-5 = Guru in bhava-7


vidyapathi-5 = Zukra in bhava-7 * political celebrity relationships

vidyapathi-5 = Shani in bhava-7 * dig-bala


vidyapathi-5 in bhava- 7 = speculative winnings, publications recognition-success

charismatic advising, consulting, suggestions

bhagya fortune via deal-making, balancing, harmonizing, unions, equity, marriage, contracts, agreements, advocacy. Brings the agency of bhagya = good luck of the 5th amsha = into the realm of bhava- 7

the genius of games, creative intelligence, performance arts, and politics enters the world of advising relationships, peer-to-peer consulting, marriage, brokering, and alliances.

splendid placement for an entertainment lawyer or anyone in the modern entertainment-gambling-amusements industry, due to intelligence and self-focus always present during crafting of legal contracts

  • "O" 1954- multimedia Oprah Winfrey = among the most financially wealthy women in the world = Guru

If Budha, very shrewd and wealthy.

Also excellent for diplomatic communications on political matters

vidyapathi-5 resides in strategic, tactical, planning, communicative 3rd-from-swakshetra .

Ruler of 11th-from-7 occupies 7

Marriage union and business alliance provide a theatrical expression one 's creativity and speculative intelligence.

The spouse likes children or politics, and is socially identified with those adventures.

Spouse may be a performance artist, politician, literati, speculator, or member of royalty.

Dramatic, fashionable, splendid, Ceremonial style in relationships.

  • Amplified drama if Rahu. Very bright and self-central if Surya.

Channels one's highest creative expression through activity of making contracts, alliances, negotiations, partnership, pairings, matches, deals, and agreements.

The vidyapathi-5 is an ego-centered, attention-craving graha which -- whilst brilliant and entertaining -- is also explicitly independent and self-focused.

vidyapathi-5 in 7 is not a show-stopper to marriage but if the graha is strong, one may not be comfortable to share the stage with a spouse, and one's need for public acclamation may damage the marital harmony.

Potential for Marriage to the divine via religious avowal

Public Figures

vidyapathi-5 = Surya in bhava-8

vidyapathi-5 = Chandra in bhava-8

vidyapathi-5 = Mangala in bhava-8


vidyapathi-5 = Budha in bhava-8

vidyapathi-5 = Guru in bhava-8 * many ego- transformations, much performance intelligence to enact the occult teachings

vidyapathi-5 = Zukra in bhava-8


vidyapathi-5 = Shani in bhava-8 * long life, limitations on regeneration


vidyapathi-5 in randhra-bhava-8

Agency of politics, drama, creativity, speculation, gambling bhagya = lucky coincidences-5 enters the realm of join assets of marriage, in-laws, secret liaisons, identity-changes, and hidden assets bhava-8

  • the genius of games, creative intelligence, performance arts, and politics

  • secret, clandestine, hidden (8) political intrigue (5) and charismatic (5) tantric behaviors (8)

personal intelligence (5) enters the 8th-from world of eruption of hidden forces:

  • secrets, hidden forced catastrophic change, inheritance, surgeries, emergency, confidential information, tantra-yoga, magic, spouse's money, in-laws of marriage

Bhava 8 = 4th-from-5th AND 5th-from-4th

vidyapathi-5 in 8 and bandesha-4 in 8 are both auspicious placements in two distinctive ways.

Stabilization into rhythmic, customary cultural practice (4) of gambling and literary or celebrity genius (5)

Creative projection (5) from the folk basis (4)

Any graha which is born into randhra bhava becomes subject to the fast spinning of the cycle (8) of self-destruction and rebirth (8).

The speed of change-of-form is often terrifying. Matters of the bhava-s ruled by graha in 8 are controlled by this fast-turning, re-cycling , identity-destroying and regenerating hidden life force.

Brilliant Creativity (5) enters the realm of hidden worlds

  • Lord of the Rings 1892-1973 linguist J.R.R. Tolkien * vidyapathi-5 Zukra-8. He created (5) in his high-fantasy magical-fiction a elaborate civilization replete with their own languages, histories, and codes of law (Zukra-Makara). However the great drama of his serial masterpiece was the thrill of romantic and moral crisis (8) in relationships (Zukra).

Effects of graha in 8 = frightening, secretive, occult, mysterious, hidden, shocking magical, rejuvenating and changing-changing-changing.

fortune from creative or political engagement with hidden powers or with the conditions of death, such as inheritance, wills and estates.

vidyapathi-5 resides in 4th-from-swakshetra . Favorable conditions the homeland folkways, ancient customs, and established cultural norms, comfortable habits, the transmitted generational rhythms such as melodies and prosody (the cadence of conversation);

patterns of language and dress, customary beliefs of the people and their land. potential for

  • financial wealth from skillful management of other people's money via stock market gambling - curbed by Shani drishti to 8

Conditions of death

Conditions of death often (not always) include political reaction or sentiment (5). If not political, then certainly dramatic.

Death of the flesh-body = shocking (8) but fascinating, celebrated (5), regal, dramatic, getting central attention, brilliant (5), heroic or tragic.

Life is often somewhat brief or does not live to a full age unless a strong Shani-8 or Shani drishti into 8

Death of a younger person in the peak of their creative output years is more fascinating, shocking, and riveting drama.

  • Autobiography of a Yogi 1893-1952 Swami Yogananda * death age 58, heart failure

vidyapathi-5 in randhrastana may become a famous celebrity in death ... a larger-than-life literary protagonist within a fascinating story of the turning of the wheel of birth and death.

One may become a celebrity (5) of revolution (8) or radical social change. Willingness (5) to undertake transformative healing, to deal creatively with confidential and secret information, hidden monies, or inheritances.

Excellent for dramatizing tantrik and magical practices through creative performances and literature. bhava-5 center-of-attention = autobiography


Despite the favorable 4th angle, vidyapathi-5 in randhra bhava may limit the number of children.

The relationship with the eldest child has a degree of obscurity. In some cases the child may mature into a surgeon or work with classified secrets. In other cases, depending on the ruler, the child may be in some sense unreachable, due to mental or physical obscurations.

  • Silly Love Songs 1942- Beatle Paul McCartney * Chandra-yuti-Mangala * his eldest child = the daughter of his first wife Linda, from her previous marriage. McCartney adopted the little girl before three more children were born to the couple. The eldest child is reckoned a talented artist, but unlike her more celebrated siblings she prefers to live under cover (8) in a foreign country. Some struggle with depression is also a factor.

Depending on the precise graha, there may be indeed children but not the wanted ones, or perhaps no children at all if Guru is ill-disposed, Shani in 5, or other intensification of the destruction of progeny

  • Methodism 1703-1791 John Wesley * vidyapathi-5 nichha-Shani + Guru. Although at the age of 48 he married a wealthy widow who brought her four children into their marital home, Wesley had no children of his own. Accounts of the time comment that he was not pleasant toward his stepchildren. After a period of his extensive itinerant preaching, his marriage collapsed and the acquired children moved away with their mother.

Exceptions to this general principle can occur, producing children albeit with certain occult implications, Children are more likely when several graha occupy bhava-5 or when Chandra joins the putrapathi in bhava-8.

  • Lights Out 1968- singer Lisa Marie Presley + Chandra-yuti-Budha bore four children over a period of 20 years, including a pair of twins conceived with therapeutic fertility intervention (8).

Sudden transformation of children

  • Faust 1749-1832 polymath Johann Wolfgang von Goethe and his partner Christine Vulpius produced five children, but only one survived to adulthood

public figures

vidyapathi-5 = Surya in bhava-9

vidyapathi-5 = Chandra in bhava-9

vidyapathi-5 = Mangala in bhava-9 * karako bhavo nashto * drive toward doctrine, champion of paradigmatic belief, pursuit of patronage, dynamic preaching, energized philosophical conquests, aggressive or sexualized paternal energies, dominating father-figures. Often Kuja-9 = challenges to the father's life and lifestyle.


vidyapathi-5 = Budha in bhava-9

vidyapathi-5 = Guru in bhava-9 * easy electins

vidyapathi-5 = Zukra in bhava-9

vidyapathi-5 = Shani in bhava-9

vidyapathi-5 in bhava- 9 = vidyapathi-5 resides in the charismatic, political, creative, gaming, regal 5th-from-swakshetra.

A heady mix of creative arts and literature, Politics + Global Humanism + Ideological Doctrines

  • Germinal 1840-1902 J'accuse Emile Zola * Zukra-yuti-Rahu * although he was for decades mainly recognized as a popular fiction-writing novelist, Zola became a polarizing political figure during the vicious anti-Jewish persecution of a military officer during the Dreyfus Affair

  • Mighty Heart 1975- drama-activist Angelina Jolie * primarily known as a cinema dramatist "action heroine". However in maturity she is becoming known as a figure of global humanism via her role as a United Nations Goodwill Ambassador.

Celebrity, creative genius, center of attention

May be perceived as having Royal Entitlement or Regal Celebrity

In some cases, may be literally worshipped by devotees

Brings the agency of bhagya = fortune of 5 = into the realm of bhava-9 = courtly lifestyle and playing favorites genius of games, creative intelligence, performance arts.

Splendid placement for politics

Children and offspring of one's own creative intelligence enter the 9th-realm of fatherhood, indoctrination, philosophy, theory, royalty, celebrity, or public acts of spiritual guidance. Benefits humanized communication with world of Spirit; global travel, doctrinal scholarship, and wisdom teaching.


If Guru-9 rules-5, exceptional fortune in religious preaching or celebrity university roles

If Shani-9 rules-5, typically holds an orthodox position in matters of faith. Prefers a weighty, hoary, heavily obligatory, perhaps somewhat punitive, class-ranked approach toward the tenets of sacred doctrine.

  • POTUS-pair-04 hostess 1768-1849 Dolley Madison * Shani-yuti-Ketu * Ketu broke the typical starchy dogmatism of Shani-9. The legendary networker and social entertainer also promoted several progressive causes including the then-endangered right to freedom of religion.

Father is highly intelligent often a creative artist, theorist, scholar or literati with political inclinations

Exceptionally fortunate for global humanitarian and world-trade activities.

  • POTUS-pair-04 hostess 1768-1849 Dolley Madison * Shani-yuti-Ketu * her social relationships made possible her husband's work to obtain financial and legal agreements to end the War of 1812 and establish safe channels for the American international shipping trade

  • Mighty Heart 1975- drama-activist Angelina Jolie

  • Devdas 1973- drama-fashion Aishwarya Rai * Shani-yuti-Ketu

  • Formula-One 1980-2013 test driver Maria de Villota * Formula-1 test driver and charitable activist

Fortunate in finance, esp. speculative (5) finance. Generally free of polarizing catalysis regarding money, as well-wishers abound.

Helps not only matters of 5 but also matters of 3 since 5 = 3rd-from-3rd

ruler of 5 in 5th-from-5th grants a doctrinal coherence to political announcements, political writing, political committee-work, political and speculative discussions

  • POTUS-30 Price of Freedom 1872-1933 Calvin Coolidge * was a capable writer on topics of governance and law (10). After retirement he produced an autobiography and a steady stream of newspaper articles. During his active career, Coolidge managed countless workgroups and committees.

A highly positive (9) thinker who can take a creative approach to even the most dire situation, and generally succeed due to one's Faith (9) in one's abilities (5) coupled with faith in the Divine (9).

Elite celebrities of creative performance

Public Figures

vidyapathi-5 = Surya in bhava-10 * dig-bala

vidyapathi-5 = Chandra in bhava-10

vidyapathi-5 = Mangala in bhava-10 * dig-bala


vidyapathi-5 = Budha in bhava-10

vidyapathi-5 = Guru in bhava-10


vidyapathi-5 = Zukra in bhava-10


vidyapathi-5 = Shani in bhava-10


vidyapathi-5 in bhava- 10 = adversarial 6th-from-swakshetra.

Career indicator for professions in vidya, drama, politics, games, creative arts and scholarship, celebrity, royalty, and uniquely autocratic intelligence

  • Way to Wealth 1706-1790 printer ambassador Benjamin Franklin + Budha. Franklin eschewed government office in order to retain his creative empowerments. He was a remarkable autocrat largely unimpeded by the moral conventions of his day. However vidyapathi-5 Surya-Makara-10 is owned and aspected by Professor Shani, so Franklin was a sober and effective agent of political institutionalization for the new country USA as well as an independent literary figure with a uniquely personalized (5) lifestyle.

Due to the shad-ashtaka * 6/8 angle, prone toward accusations, class conflict and culture war yet typically a capable executive officer who carries political idealism (5) into the pragmatic workday of institutional governance (10).

vidyapathi-5 residing in karmasthana is creative and entitled, albeit always somewhat conflict about the 6/8 awkwardness between unique individual intelligence (5) and the lawful, no-exceptions requirements of social governance (10). The public career (10) expresses the creative domains of bhava-5 including politics , entertainment, celebrity-royalty, gaming, speculative finance, literary arts, and drama.

Political careers = outcome of karmesha-in-5

Celebrity and drama careers = never far from politics

May do well in gambling and other speculative fields as well. Overall however one would rather play and create rather than organize things and set rules. Even when successful, native feels somewhat constricted and uncomfortable in the director role.

Brings the agency of bhagya = fortune of 5 = into the realm of highest public visibility bhava- 10

the genius of games, creative intelligence, artistic performance, and political empowerment

enters the iconic, recognizable world of

profession - social reputation - class-caste Rank - dignity - institutional governance - leadership responsibilities, dignity of work, orderly environments, lawful hierarchies and step-wise ladder-climbing.

vidyapathi-5 resides in 6th-from-swakshetra, = conflicts, accusations, and disputes. made by enemies

  • can be an unfortunate (6) end to the public career (10), caused by enemies (6) or addictions (6) or both, even after much has been accomplished.

Self-dramatizing folk with a gift for high-profile, public lifestyles. Yet the 6/8 angle between 5-and-10 demonstrates a high-velocity change cycle in the performance of public duty. Flamboyant, self-referential displace may replace the sober leadership of 10, and vice-versa by turns.

  • POTUS-26 National Parks 1858-1919 Theodore Roosevelt * vidyapathi = Shani-10 * contextualized by relentless heroic showmanship, TR dazzled the populace while he was often away from the presidential desk

  • Although the parivartamsha helpfully balances the 6/8 tension in a better-than-usual way, and her Shani-10 is highly capable of leadership, nevertheless POTUS-pair-42 + USA Secy State 1947- Hillary Clinton + nichha -Kuja * Shani-10 parivartamsha Chandra-5 * has overall spent far more time campaigning (5) than governing (10)

self-expressive drive to enter highest public office, but often the personal willfulness exceeds the bureaucratic, conformist boundaries of government roles.

Too much ego-membrane expressive creativity in the sober and lawful 10th house can be problematic when the role is defined as public *servant*. the native may be perceived as overly literary, too attention-hungry, or too dramatic for long-term high ranking positions.

Children (especially the eldest child) may rise high into positions of public leadership responsibility and respect.

  • Cuba-Dictator 1926-2016 Fidel Castro * his eldest son was at one time a high-profile director of Cuba's nuclear engineering program

The father's family, or the father's assets, the father's knowledge (10) or the father's abilities with language, history, or matters of the face-eyes-mouth is distinctive and socially recognized.

  • Harivansh Rai Shrivastav, the father of Zanjeer 1942- drama-politics Amitabh Bachchan earned his Ph.D. (9) in English literature at Oxford and worked as a professor at several colleges in India. Shri Shrivastav "Bachchan" became a great promoter of Hindi literature even within the English-medium curricula that he taught. Considered exceptionally knowledgable, HRS' poetry was honored and admired by scholars worldwide.
Public Figures

vidyapathi-5 = Surya in bhava-11 * economic gain from celebrity entitlements

vidyapathi-5 = Chandra in bhava-11 * economic gain from celebrity sensitivity, caring

vidyapathi-5 = Mangala in bhava-11 * economic gain from celebrity activity, battles


vidyapathi-5 = Budha in bhava-11 * economic gain from celebrity announcements, explanations to community


vidyapathi-5 = Guru in bhava-11 * economic gain from celebrity philosophy


vidyapathi-5 = Zukra in bhava-11 * economic gain from celebrity diplomacy, balancing * dhanayoga


vidyapathi-5 = Shani in bhava-11 * economic gain from intelligent governance, endurance


Very profitable business deals as the political vidyapathi-5 goes into the income-producing vriddhi-sthana.


Vidyapathi occupies 11

  • Open Society 1930- capitalist George Soros * Atmakaraka + Yogakaraka vidyapathi-5 = Mangala in bhava-11 * 16-Sept-1992 Black Wednesday * Soros famously Broke the Bank of England in a shrewd and devastating gamble for the valuation of the pound-sterling. From winning this exceptional bet (5), Soros won 1-billion-USD (in 1992 dollars) on a single day.

vidyapathi-5 in bhava- 11 = diplomatic, deal-making, bargaining, harmonizing 7th-from-swakshetra.

Brings the agency of bhagya 5th amsha = intelligence, good luck, winning ideas = into marketplace - networks- interconnected communities

the genius of games, creative confidence, artistic performance, and political empowerment, royal entitlement

  • England-King 1491-1547 Henry VIII Tudor * vidyapathi-5 Guru-11. He used the empowerment conferred through the divine right of kings (5) to overwhelm the claims of the Roman Church and restore extensive English landholding into the English economy (11)

earnings from artistic performance and creative literature

earnings from political, regal, and center-stage roles

enters the networked world of webs of association, voluntary friendships, economies of goods and ideas, the distributive marketplace

Magnified by Rahu to super-profits via political association:

well connected in the world of financially wealthy royalty (5) celebrity (5) and high-entitlement investors (5)

  • El Castilo Interior 1515-1582 St. Teresa de Avila * Guru-yuti-Mangala. Although famed for her advocacy of poverty and chastity as the holiest vows of her religious order, St. Teresa hailed from a financially well-connected community and she was generally able to obtain funding for all of her reform projects

atmakaraka Guru drishti to dhanapati-2 + Vriddhipathi-11 Budha; rogesha-6 + yuvatipathi-7 uttama-Shani;

Genius of network-building (11) and developing interconnected communities through charismatic personal appeal (5).

one is well-connected politically, as are one's children.

One takes a leadership role in large, regulated social participation movements

Often knows or is socially connected to royalty, celebrity, and the creative classes

Getting connected

Public Figures

vidyapathi-5 = Surya in bhava-12

vidyapathi-5 = Chandra in bhava-12

vidyapathi-5 = Mangala in bhava-12


vidyapathi-5 = Budha in bhava-12


vidyapathi-5 = Guru in bhava-12 * many meditations, much sanctuary


vidyapathi-5 = Zukra in bhava-12

vidyapathi-5 = Shani in bhava-12


vidyapathi-5 in bhava- 12 * the putra-putriki-pathi occupies 8th-from- putra-putriki-sthana

dreams / meditation / sanctuary /subconscious / private worlds Brings the agency of bhagya = fortune of 5 = into the realm of bhava- 12

the genius of games, creative intelligence, artistic performance, and political empowerment enters the private world of

  • distant lands, dreams, meditation, sanctuary, subconscious, ancestral voices, spiritual guidance, and clandestine affairs

vidyapathi-5 resides in 8th-from-swakshetra.

  • May try to solve gambling-related problem-sets due to the imaginary fantasies (12) about luck (5)

  • generally reduces the likelihood of producing children (although there are many more factors to assess before making this forecast)

randhresha-8 from putra bhava = for sudden, forced changes in children, politics, speculative wealth = not fortunate for children, politics, speculative investments, games.

Opportunity for authentic creative expression is somewhat dissolved * or may be pushed into the imagination. Depending on conditions in bhava-5 and bhava-12, the imagination and research environments (12) may express the conflict of the 6/8 angle, yet results may be beneficial

  • Apple Computer 1955-2011 Steve Jobs * Budha-12 rules 5 = on the downside, SJ denied paternity for his eldest daughter for the first 10 years old her life. Complicated by his Ketu-yuti-Guru-5. On the upside, SJ's remarkable imagination (12) was suffused with the creativity of the vidyapathi-Budha-12. SJ produced designs and technical fabrications (Budha handcraft) for the legendary computers and smartphones which ushered in the age of Kumbha social networking for the West.

The graha in 12 may be so rapidly transforming that only brief expressions of the creative output are permitted; or alternatively, the creative endeavors flourish mainly in distant lands or via actions of the imagination.

"Behind the scenes " (12) politics and political machinations in distant lands, if vidyapathi-5 is strong

  • Way to Wealth 1706-1790 printer ambassador Benjamin Franklin * negotiated with foreign (12) political (5) personalities behind the scenes

  • China-Dictator 1893-1976 Mao Zedong + Budha

Does not deny children, but can indicate that they may face invisible challenges, such as unexpected changes, eruptions of hidden force, secret information, or an un-diagnosed disease.

  • The eldest son of Way to Wealth 1706-1790 printer ambassador Benjamin Franklin was born out of wedlock, and given to foster parents until the child was an older toddler. When Franklin's second child was born into an acknowledge union, the first child was restored to the family. Later this child became a dominant political figure William Franklin governor of New Jersey (Chandra rules 5-politics and 5 contains uttama-Guru) and as a staunch royalist also a virulent enemy of his Revolutionary father. As governor, William issued a warrant for his father Ben's arrest on suspicion of sedition.

Circumstances combine to dissolve the relationship with children, particularly but not exclusively the first one.

  • Iran-Shahani 1932-2001 Soraya Esfandiari Bakhtiari was unable to conceive a child, which motivated her divorce.

  • NASCAR 1951-2001 motorsports Dale Earnhardt was said to have had a distant relationship with his children from his three marriages. His son Dale Jr. who eventually followed into the profession was initially much discouraged from competing by his father, and did not gain much visibility until after the father died.

In a scientific nativity, bhava-12 indicates research and the intuitive hunches which direct the research to choose particular paths of inquiry.

Q: my fiancée's vidyapathi-5 radix occupies bhava-8. Is this a poor forecast for having normal children?

There is no special disease pattern in her family nor mine, but I wonder about the consequences of the lord of putra bhava going into mrityu bhava?

Should we do a compensating puja?

A: vidyapathi-5 the putra-pati going into bhava-8 is less problematic than vidyapathi-5 going into Vyaya bhava-12, or indeed vidyapathi-5 going into Ari bhava-6. And anyway there must be several negative pointers to make a negative forecast - never base a prediction on just one factor !

In general, to find the vidyapathi-5 in the 2nd-from-swakshetra (Ari bhava) is not great for the initial health of the child. The infant might be sickly, perhaps have a good deal of contact with physicians and clinics, take some corrective drugs etc.

  • The child might get attention from social workers (6) or develop some adversarial or promise-breaking (6) behaviors in the classroom (not necessarily intentional, often biochemical) which require special placement, therapeutic intervention, special management.

  • All that can be expensive and worrying and it can drain the parents financially or emotionally, pulling down their mutual trust (6).

  • There could be some initial fertility issues which have to be corrected by medical intervention (6).

  • However unless the rashi of the 6th bhava is a very hostile rashi for the Vidyapthi-5, not to worry. Most problem-sets that reside in bhava-6 are amenable to be fixed with yogic exercise and very careful attention to diet. Naturopathic medicine is often a successful choice in resolving any sort of health challenge that is astrologically visible in the satkona.

Also, vidyapathi-5 in 4th-from-swakshetra is not inherently bad, not at all.

4th-from is a very stable kendra.

Similar to vidyapathi-5 in 2: unless the rashi of the 8th bhava is a very hostile rashi for the Vidyapthi-5, not to worry. The child will have a penchant for secrecy and may develop amazing detective skills, but relationship with parents especially the mother (4) is likely quite good.

There can be cause for concern when vidyapathi-5 occupies the 12th bhava. In this case+ vidyapathi-5 occupies 8th-from-swakshetra which bhava-12 is also a dusthamsha for the parent. In this configuration if there are other factors pointing in the same direction we might forecast that one does not wish to produce one's own children

  • rather, one might be a splendid teacher who brightens the lives of thousands of young minds over a decades-long educational career.

  • one might prefer to express their Divine Intelligence (5) in areas like scientific research (12) or meditative prayer (12) or hospital nursing (12) which are often more suited to a celibate religious or a very dedicated lay religious or full-time scholar -- rather than a busy working parent.

Again, no one single factor can predict the outcome for children in a nativity. What other features are affecting the performance of Vidyapthi-5? What is Vidyapthi-5's relationship to the lord of His occupied bhava (friend or enemy)? Other graha with Vidyapthi-5? Combust? Receiving friendly drishti? Angle to Chandra?

Look also for positive evidence from child-karaka Guru,

and look also at the lord of dharma bhava who has nearly the same predictive power for children as the Vidyapthi-5.

  • Note that Guru residing in 5 or 9 reduces or eliminates children but Guru drishti received into 5 or into 9 is a positive indicator of having kids.

  • Have a look also at the role of vidyapathi-5 in navamsha; check the Saptamsha lagna and the vidyapathi-5 there also.

However in case vidyapathi-5 resides in a dushthamsha it is really only vidyapathi-5 in 12 which is a concern.


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