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Surya occupies 8th-from-Chandra

  1. [Surya-Mesha] [uchcha]
  2. [Surya-Urisha]
  3. [Surya-Mithuna]
  4. [Surya-Karkata]
  5. [Surya-Simha] [svakshetra] [mūlatrikoṇa if within 1-10 deg]
  6. [Surya-Kanya]
  7. [Surya-Vanika] [nīcha]
  8. [Surya-Vṛścika]
  9. [Surya-Dhanus]
  10. [Surya-Makara-Draco]
  11. [Surya-Kumbha]
  12. [Surya-Meena]

  1. [Surya in bhava-1]
  2. [Surya in bhava-2]
  3. [Surya in bhava-3]
  4. [Surya in bhava-4]
  5. [Surya in bhava-5] [svabhava]
  6. [Surya in bhava-6]
  7. [Surya in bhava-7]
  8. [Surya in bhava-8]
  9. [Surya in bhava-9]
  10. [Surya in bhava-10] [dikbala]
  11. [Surya in bhava-11]
  12. [Surya in bhava-12]

Mystical initiators, agents of revolutionary transformation, shocking discovery, and secret-keeping disguise


OM grinih suryaya mamah

OM kram krim kraum sah bhaumaya namah


Professor Suraja

Arka - Ata


Agni - Aditya - Aja


resides in

Bhava- 8

रन्ध्र randhra = aperture, sphincter, hollow, cave, opening

मृत्यु mṛtyu = death, dying, fatality

आयु āyu = life, lifespan, mobility

निर्यत् niryat = going forth, exiting, coming out, set free

Soule - Saul


Sun [Sunday]

Sirius - Osiris


Apollo - Paul

Utu - Ata - Aitha

Aten - Aton - OM - On

Amon-Ra - Aurya


Helios - Heli

Haul - Halo - Ha

Havar [havana]

Nyima - Nyayiru




the eighth house



camouflaged bright center of the secrecy-drama

splendid placement for the politics of mysteries,


secret sources of power

hidden wealth, insurance

confidential information,




Revival - Rejuvenation

Recycling - Renovation - Rebirth


Durga Maa

Public Figure Examples

[Surya-Mesha] [uchcha]

[Vimala Yoga]

[retreating-contemplative vyaya-pati for Kanya indriya-lagna] [rules 12-privacy, invisibility, sanctuary, enclosures, imagination, dreamworld, clairsentient spiritual guidance]

[camouflaged center of brilliantly self-assured perception] [hidden healing intelligence for brain-blood] [focused into demonstrations of mysterious physical initiation]

[dynamically active, kinetic presence in crisis intervention environments] [may express certainty on matters of esoteric transformation]

[self-referential father may be secretive and dominating] [father or self, may radiate other-worldly entitlements]



[friendly-gainful vriddhi-pati for Tulā indriya-lagna]

[camouflaged center of financial revenues] [hidden healing intelligence for neck-throat-eyes-mouth-tongue-teeth] [focused into demonstrations of mysterious pleasurable initiations]

[sensual, enriching presence in crisis intervention environments] [political connections linked to undisclosed investments]

[father may express revolutionary values] [father or self, may make catastrophic financial decisions, yet recover] [father-figure may be surgeon, undercover agent, asset-insurer, or forensic banker]



[dutiful-hierarchical karmesha for Vṛścika indriya-lagna]

check Budha and Budha-drishti to see Surya's transactional, documenting, collaborative motivation

[center of hidden-message communications] [secret healing intelligence for hands-arms-shoulders-lungs] [focused into explanatory demonstrations of mysterious empowerments]

[radiant core of dangerous media-messaging attention] [significant profit from untaxed commercial assets]

[conversational, gesturing presence in crisis intervention environments] [narrative of catastrophic events for dutiful conductors of dignified roles]

[father-figure may be executive decision-maker in undisclosed organization] [father is often a talkative yet unavailable figure]



[philosophical-doctrinal dharmesha for Dhanus-born]

[camouflaged center of entrancing rhythms] [secret healing intelligence for sacral-plexus, pelvis] [creative awareness of hidden ancient light]

[parentally protective presence in crisis intervention environments] [father-figure may be obscured by waters] [father or self, may be spiritual conduit for shocking doctrinal discoveries]

[bright center of rhythmic trance] [focus of folkways mysteries] [star of the old-ways rejuvenation]


[Surya-Simha] [svakshetra]

[mūlatrikoṇa if within 1-10 deg]

[shocking-transformative randhresha for Makara - Draco indriya-lagna]

[undisclosed center of dangerous political games] [secret healing intelligence for heart-and-spine] [focused into flamboyant drama of mysterious initiations]

[regally radiant presence in crisis intervention environments] [father-figure may be con-man or surgeon of eye-heart-spine] [father or self, may be brilliantly clairsentient yet camouflaged from view]


[contractual-bargaining jaya-pati for Kumbha indriya-lagna]

[camouflaged center of urgent service ministry] [secret healing intelligence for digestive-intestinal system] [focused into the logical reasoning behind mysterious initiations]

[self-certain assistive presence in crisis intervention environments]

[political judicial roles require undisclosed legal argumentation] [brightly confident father may have hidden medical-military roles] [father or self, may be crisis-ligitation attorney-advocate-advisor]

re-enlightening, re-centering of the peer agreements

[Surya-Vanika] [nīcha]

[Harsha Yoga]

[inimical-medicating rogesha for Meena - Antya indriya-lagna]

[camouflaged center of secretive negotiations] [healing intelligence for kidney-adrenal-pancreas system] [focused into mysterious initiation balancing]

[nicha-tendency to make bargains which compromise one's core principles]

[aligning, balancing presence in crisis intervention environments] [may represent criminals, yet protected by Harsha Yoga] [brightly confident father may have hidden diplomatic roles]


[celebrated vidya-pati for Mesha indriya-lagna]

rules 5- Politics, center-stage roles, theatre, demonstration, display, charming brilliance, genius, poetry, choice-making, showmanship, gambling and gamesmanship, romantic idealism, creativity, fashion-shows, flamboyance, celebrity entitlements, confidence, artistic performance, drama, children, financial speculation, intelligence, entertainments, fun

[camouflaged center of explosive transformative energy] [healing intelligence for sexual-reproductive system] [focused into mysterious initiation empowerment]

[invasive, therapeutic presence in crisis intervention environments] [spouse independent, enabled, mobile, intensely catalytic]

[brightly confident father may have penetrating roles in politics or entertainment] [father-figure may be miner-driller-surgeon, or insurance for hotly threatening dangers]


[homebound-anchoring bandesha for Urisha indriya-lagna]

[camouflaged center of faith-based customary beliefs] [healing intelligence for sacral plexus-pelvic system] [focused into mysterious initiation understanding]

[philosophical, principled presence in crisis intervention environments]

[brightly confident father may have dangerous protective-patriotic roles] [indoctrinating father may be builder-driver-farmer-defender]


[managing-collaborative sahaja-pati for Mithuna indriya-lagna]

[bright focus on secret communications within class-based hierarchies] [confidently displays conventional camouflage] [center-stage place in undisclosed governance emergencies]

[documenting, corresponding, reporting, protocol-detailing presence in crisis intervention environments] [may be safety bureaucrat or first-response official]

[dramatized explanatory descriptions of shocking catastrophe]

[class-conscious father may be businessman-manager-explainer, often in insurance or hidden undertakings]


[conserving-acquiring dhana-pati for Karkata indriya lagna]

[camouflaged center of financial transformation] [healing intelligence for skin and nervous system] [family heritage focused in mysterious initiation networks] [systematic, scientific presence in crisis intervention environments] [may express immoral values]

[brightly confident father may have dangerous marketplace roles] [father's economic linkage may be dangerous but is profitable] [paternal inheritance includes undislosed assets]



[energizing-identifying lagnesha for Simha indriya-lagna]

[camouflaged center of rejuvenating identity transformation] [healing intelligence for feet and lymph-system] [individual embodiment is focused into mysterious initiation imagery]

[intuitive, contemplative presence in crisis intervention environments]

[brightly dreamlike secretive father] [often a narrative of widowhood] [physical body undergoes intensive invasive reproductive changes]


Seeks a central position within masked, occluded environments.

Radiates charismatic light from the brilliant center of mystery.

Admired hub personality within occult practice societies, secret knowledge holders, those who control confidential information, disaster-managers, financiers protecting hidden treasure, participants in covert relationships , managers of tax-shelters, medecins who perform surgeries, military strategists who conduct invasions, monitors of eruptions, deployers of poisons and purgatives; acts of brilliant but unexpected force.

Professor Surya in svabhava of Surya's close friend Mangala radiates moving, hot-blooded [Kuja] personal charisma[Surya] into mystical, transformative activities such as:

  • healing, surgery, disaster response, discovery and revelation , sudden disclosure, catastrophic change, trauma icon, tantric symbol or representative of occult knowledge, secret lifestyle

  • mysterious conditions, cycles of self-destruction and rebirth, rejuvenation, secret knowledge, confidential information

RosaNegraBaccara.jpgcreative, center-stage

  • transformer, hider, detector, diver, pursuer of mysteries, investigator of the covered or forbidden

Surya's brilliant light permits one to see into the unknown, the secret, the mysterious, the esoteric, the masked, cloudy, reclusive, occluded and occult


Dad is often a masked figure, perhaps appearing in one guise while acting in another guise.

  • Easy Rider 1936-2010 artist Dennis Hopper [populist-profitable Kṛttikā-3] [Budha-yuti-Mangala] Father was officially the town postmaster. However, many narrative claim that dad was also a secret police FBI agent. Ketu-9 exacerbates the signification of an unavailable or ghostlike father-figure.

One may exist in the dramatic center of occult environments

Surya-8 shines a bright light into the realms of mystery, secrecy, sudden changes, covert operations, occult knowledge, confidential information, hidden money, inheritances and legacies, conditions of death, emergencies and disasters, eruptions and emergence, secret pleasures, healing transformations.

The partner's family (8) may contain flamboyant personalities such as dramatists, gamers, speculators, show-people, fashionista, politicians, or celebrities. The partner's family may express their entitlement to receive attention due to their sparkling charm.

Whether more specialized toward money, knowledge, or pleasure depends upon rashi, drishti, and co-tenants of bhava-8.

However, the luminaries (Surya, Chandra) born into bhava-8 may tend toward a shortened lifespan until there are lengthening effects from other graha-drishti into 8.

Longevity factors: Shani drishti into 8 *or* Shani in 8 yuti luminaries or Rahu-8 or Mangala-8

Surya is surprisingly happy in Kuja's svabhava (presuming the rashi is supportive) - yet Naturally, this

placement is not good for the father, .

Matters of Surya's temporal bhava may be destroyed

One finds a central position in the drama of shock-based behaviors , matters of catastrophic change, emergence of the hidden, disaster, destruction-and-rebirth, surgery, healing transformation, Revelation, Rebirth, and trauma.

Splendid position for those handling secret information which may have catastrophic consequences either for individuals or for the world

  • Political publicist 1966- Calista Gingrich knew about the hidden, illegal monies; said nothing (Shani-8 obligation to keep secrets)

Although the personal life is not easy, one may emerge into the world theatre as an agent of forced social transformation.

Surya-karaka in 8


Father holds a hidden position (8)

Dad may be largely unknown to his society despite the possibility that father is performing important roles.

Whether father's reputation is positive or negative depends upon the randhresha, and upon the randhresha's angle to Surya-in-8.

Dad might perform hidden roles such as surgeon, confidential information manager, occult teacher, supervisor of hidden wealth, taxation expert, or various forms of secret or terrifying operations.

He could be a professional dealing with terrorism, disaster, catastrophe, or emergency response. Surya, and thus the father, is powerful when well disposed in 8.

However, unlike the case of Professor Surya-9 where the father's beliefs and behaviors are brightly shown in the public domain, with Surya-8 the general public is likely unaware of the details of the father's activities. His public profile is mainly seen via lord of 8, the arudha of Surya lagna, and other measurements from Surya rather than directly seeing Surya-8.

Surya in dusthamsha (6, 8, 12) = often indicates a relatively brief lifetime for the father. Surya-8 may point to circumstances of shell-death involving insurance or inheritance or hidden operations; perhaps a revolutionary or agent of catastrophe

The father may lack self-confidence to act honestly and visibly, resorting to intimidation or bullying rather than straightforward role-modeling. Particularly a father-figure can be weak if there is an additional draining of Surya's light such as randhresha-8 in the 12th from 8.

  • Top Gun 1962- cinema Tom Cruise TC has referred to his father as a merchant of chaos, and a bully and a coward. TC reports having been regularly beaten by his abusive father until age 12, when his mother left the marriage and took the children with her. Typical of a randhresha-8 in 7 yuti Mangala, the father died prematurely (of cancer) at his son's age 22.

To have Ravi's portfolio radically, even catastrophically, destroyed during the lifetime is indeed potentially beneficial for Meena indriya-lagna where Surya is rogesha-6 and for Kanya indriya-lagna where Surya activates bhava-12.

Viparita Raja Yoga

For Meena indriya-lagna and Kanya indriya-lagna, Surya in randhra-sthāna provides a boost up . This advantage is especially useful for Kanya nativities, wherein the major obstacles from Ari-sthāna, such as enemies, debts, and disease, are neatly destroyed.

For other lagna except Meena and Kanya, results = mixed. Prevents the karaka traits of Professor Surya from manifesting; exempli gratia, destroys fame, dampens self-confidence, reduces leadership power and harms the self-image. Does not disturb wealth, favors legacy and inheritance. Helps professions in healing arts and secret traditions, helps attorneys managing the affairs of the dead, and all involved in occult or tantra.

One seeks praise and recognition as a Revealer.

Surya-8 = secret knowledge of mysteries and shamanic tools of death-and-rebirth cycles of destruction.

One may become most famous [Surya] for matters connected to the Conditions of death .

Conditions of Dematerialization

The flesh body is killed by agency of the rashi governing bhava-8, drishti to bhava-8, and by karaka Surya:

  • by the father

  • by the king or the royal court

  • by masculine-figures (such as brother, husband, boss)

  • by the heart

  • by the spine

  • by arrogance or self-centralizing authority

  • sudden burst of extremely bright light

  • by over-exposure physically to light or heat - or socially, via over-attention, over-celebrity

by brightness, dryness, warmth

by afflictions of overheating to the eyes, heart, or spine

Surya-8 = professionally concerned with hidden or confidential matters; surgeries and emergencies; mysterious, occult, or clandestine environments in which secret assets are collected (including valuable secret knowledge).

Professor Surya teaching in classroom-8 generally knows a great deal more than might appear at the surface.

Ego-identity in public life = reduced, or becomes problematic, as Surya the Bright Light of Truth must shine out from the house of hidden forces and catastrophic change.

As the native hides oneself from public view. Depending on the bhava that is owned by Professor Surya, the native could be powerful socially, but one's involvement in powerful activities is largely veiled.

Surya-8 does not wish to be ego-identified with the confidential or occult materials that one is indeed handling. Ethical conflict caused by secrecy or ego-association with mysterious knowledge may result in moral crisis. Matters of Surya's house are obscured.

  • Causes and conditions of death are related to the randhresha-8 and to Surya, including Heat and Heart.

Atma-karaka in bhava-8 = similar to Surya in bhava-08

Ravi is at home n Kuja's Bhava-8, despite the less favorable prognosis for the father or patron-guru.

Surya in bhava-08 indicates a high calling in one of the healing arts, surgery, midwifery, disaster response, investigating detective, or secret finance.

However, the native 's activities may never reach public visibility. Even the portion of their dealings which is known to the public may be small like the tip of an iceberg. One may be working in the service of shrouded interests, able to reveal only a little of what one knows.

One is called to bring secret information, tantric arts buried in the dust of ages, and above all healing energies to the surface of human conscious through philosophical reasoning.

Excellent therapists are found with this position, as well as investigators into negative levels of secrecy such as criminal corruption.

Surya-8 may bear sole responsibility for making high-impact judgments and decisions using their own intelligence. Their choice may affect the life of individuals, or the future of nations.

  • Circumstances of Death: sudden , in a hot place or on a hot day (more hot if a hot rashi), likely environment is mountainous; cause also may be internal heat e.g., fever . Depends significantly on the randhresha-8 .

  • In-Laws: high confidence in dealing with the spouse's family. Normally the native has the strongest personality in the extended family group. Not intimidated by relatives.

  • Inheritance and Insurance settlements: depends on the randhresha-8 , but Surya tends to burn up whatever is happening in the house Ravi occupies. Inheritance if any is much smaller than one's own earnings.

  • Taxes: not a burden. Often avoided completely.

  • Access to Secret Knowledge: Advanced capabilities, broad access to hidden information. May need to make executive decisions on potentially catastrophic events.

  • Healing Skills: capability for helping others to make important and difficult decisions, ability to reason effectively, even with limited information

  • Catastrophic Changes: subject to massive changes in the social identity, depending on randhresha-8

  • Joint Assets of Marriage: the native and the spouse may contribute successfully to affluence hoard in marriage. Presuming Surya is strong, Native holds a positive belief predisposition to build financial security for the marriage.

  • Divorce Settlement: "burned up" Extramarital options are available and often utilized for ego-enhancement purposes, but divorce is uncommon with Surya/8.

    Father has some covert dealings which may harm his career. If Surya is weak, Father may be secretive, unethical, moody, or even abusive.


QUOTATION from Das / Behari

commentary upon Surya occupies bhava- 8

" In general, the Sun in this house makes you lean and thin, mentally obtuse, disliked and abandoned by relations.

But if the zodiacal sign is supportive, the solar influence here may lead to much interest in spirituality or the process of initiation .

The Sun of the 8th house is mostly malefic, as it is posited in a bad house.

This house denotes wills, legacies, chronic diseases, loss of wealth, extravagance, suits and quarrels, death, co-workers and occult matters.

  • Planets occupying this house incline to an interest in occult science;

    if without a planet, life runs on conventional lines till the ruler receives strong aspects.

You are a crafty impostor and lewd. Life is hard and difficult.

Travels widely and associates with low class persons, eats unscrupulously, squanders away wealth and by thefts.

  • Secret vice brings infectious diseases and poor health.

  • Neither can you make others' life happy; nor, your own; sudden death.

You are handsome, but indolent, prodigal, spend-thrift, suffer from piles; adulterous; travels wide and is quarrelsome.

Absence of offspring [BPL: not true if Guru drishti Moon] weak sight, wealthy but violent, sick and hard working.

You are neither rich nor happy. Early death; and more so, at the loss of some dear one.

Generally you are less wise, short-tempered and of poor mental and physical health. These are the disqualifications for a successful and happy life.

You are fickle-minded but generous

  • -ready to serve the wise and learned

  • sick and talkative, unlucky.

  • Characterless, prudent, long-lived, serves the low caste,

  • little happiness from sons, suffers from eye troubles,

  • gets a wound or boil on the head during the 10th year.

Note: With the Sun in the 8th house,

  • you will always undergo miseries,

  • will establish relationships with persons of foreign origin,

  • will lose wealth in thefts,

  • will face severe and secretive dangers,

  • will have a beautiful physique akin to that of (waxing) moon,

  • will incur financial danger from all sides,

  • weak sight and physical distress,

  • will contract incurable venereal diseases,

  • will always fight with others,

  • will have few friends and will have some wealth,

  • will not be steady in the career,

  • will have limited progeny but be a skillful astrologer."


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