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AUM som somaya namah

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5th-from- Chandra

emotional intelligence

eldest child

children in general

Graha or lagna that are located in 5th-from-Chandra

  • feel soothed by romance, politics, creativity, romantic idealism, games-and-gambling, gambits, speculation

  • feel sentimental affection toward children, game-players, celebrities, those with dramatizing personalities

  • need sparkle, intelligence, entitlement

  • are comfortable in the center of attention

  1. [Chandra in classroom-1]
  2. [Chandra in classroom-2]
  3. [Chandra in classroom-3]
  4. [Chandra in classroom-4] [svabhava] [dikbala]
  5. [Chandra in classroom-5]
  6. [Chandra in classroom-6]
  7. [Chandra in classroom-7]
  8. [Chandra in classroom-8]
  9. [Chandra in classroom-9]
  10. [Chandra in classroom-10]
  11. [Chandra in classroom-11]
  12. [Chandra in classroom-12]

  1. [Chandra-Mesha]
  2. [Chandra-Urisha] [uchcha] [svakshetra] [mūlatrikoṇa if within 4-30 deg]
  3. [Chandra-Mithuna]
  4. [Chandra-Karkata]
  5. [Chandra-Simha]
  6. [Chandra-Kanya]
  7. [Chandra-Tula]
  8. [Chandra-Vṛścika] [nīcha]
  9. [Chandra-Dhanus]
  10. [Chandra-Makara-Draco]
  11. [Chandra-Kumbha]
  12. [Chandra-Meena]

Emotional cooperation

Vimshottari period of the ruler of 5th-from-Chandra is likely to contain a good deal of emotional creativity and pro-creativity.

The nature of the expectations is positive and self-directed.

If there are graha in occupation of 5th-from-Chandra, or the ruler of 5th-from-Chandra = exceptionally empowered, the situation can become much more emotionally intelligent.

5-gamesmanship, genius, center-stage performance, creativity, gambling, self-referential certainty, brilliant speculation, elections, options, cardiac-spine

5-politics, idealism, entitlement, display, celebrity, authorship, intellect, gambling-games, entertainment, children, genius, showmanship, creativity, splendor

5-celebrity, genius, entitlements, display, intelligence, brightness, politics

5-politics, drama, center-stage roles, artistic performance, entitlements

5- entertainment, dramatic arts, romantic idealism, celebrity, sparkle, entitlement

5-politics, children, creative performance, gambling-games, romance, financial speculation, drama, center-stage roles, entertainments

psycho-emotional relationship based on ancient memory of
  • children, esp. one's eldest child

  • romantic idealistic love, poetic literature

  • politics, genius, divine intelligence, literary creativity, theatre, performance arts,

  • gaming, speculative finance; stock-market, casino; entertainment and amusement

  • physical body heart, solar plexus

For masculine-feminine partnerships, the 5th-from angle resembles Surya thus is a fairly easy placement for male self-centered energy.

However, the 5th-from angle is less suitable for the feminine harmonizing Shukra, who favors a 2nd or 7th angle. Therefore, the situation is different for masculine vs. feminine perspectives.


Ros_Red_pale.jpgGeneral conditions in 5th-from-Soma



[Chandra in visionary-charitable Aśleṣa-4] [Atmakaraka] [Chandra-yuti-Mangala-nicha] [8, rejuvenation]

  • Silly Love Songs 1942- Beatle Paul McCartney

  • 5th-from-Chandra = bhava-12 Vrischika. Vyayapati nicha-Kuja-8 [Vimala yoga]
  • JPM's eldest child = the daughter of his lifepartner-1-of-3, Linda Eastman from Linda's previous marriage. JPM adopted the little girl just before three more children were born into the union. The eldest child is reckoned a talented artist . Some struggle with depression and withdrawal [12] is a consistent factor. [Chandra-yuti-Mangala-nicha] indicates that PJM maintains a protective, parental [Chandra] relationship with the eldest daughter, and supports her interiority.

EXAMPLE - Guru-5-Dhanus also rules political, displaying 5th-from-Chandra -- but 5th-from-Chandra contains a Rahu twist

  • POTUS-38 Time to Heal 1913-2006 Gerald R. Ford After completing law-school and military service, GRF was swiftly elected USA-Congressman from Michigan.
  • Never aspiring to the more prestigious Senate, GRF maintained his power-base in the national House of Representatives. His constitutents approved of his patronage [Guru] and GRF never lost a re-election.
  • Because 5th-from-Chandra contains Rahu-Meena-8, GRF's career ended in a healing, secretive catapult [Rahu] into an entirely unexpected short-stint as POTUS.GRF' reluctantly became the un-elected " bandage president" POTUS-38 to heal the terrible national injury caused by his friend POTUS-37 Richard Nixon. In retirement, GRF wrote several best-selling books about politics and philosophical convictions [Guru-5].


satkona = 5th-from-[Chandra in Jyeṣṭha-2]

++ rogesha Guru-11 yuti Ketu = 6th-from-6 [eventual resolution of the crime via intercession of friends]

  • Avant-gardiste 1933- Beatle-pair Yoko Ono yO's school- age daughter from her second marriage was kidnapped by the child's father. The child was raised incognito within a Midwestern religious cult. Mother and daughter were separated for 27 years. Daughter was nearly 40 at time of reunion.


Sparkling Surya resides in [5th-from-Chandra]


Surya = comfortable in the center of attention

Emotionally based interest in politics, drama, celebrity, games, romantic idealism, creative art, entertainments.

  • POTUS-pair-39 Caregiving 1927-2023 Rosalynn Smith Carter [Simha-Surya-yuti-Mangala] [4] As soon as her husband entered politics, rSC began to demonstrate her adherence to the customary ethics of their agricultural hometown [4]. Typical of Surya-4, her brightest light shown into the worlds of homekeeping and protection of the vulnerable, citizen rights entitlements, and [with her husband Jimmy Carter] conduct of choice-making [Surya] democratic elections to ensure a stable nation [4].

  • Cleopatra 1932-2011 AIDS activist Elizabeth Taylor career dramatist. Also her seventh marriage to a USA Senator was explicitly political, and she served in his election campaign

Depending on other graha in 5th-from-Chandra, there may be a preference to decline the option to produce fleshly children in favor of producing children of the creative intelligence.

Yet, if children occur, the eldest child prefer Surya-oriented lifestyles, is strongly associated with the father, and may have self-centered qualities.

  • POTUS-05 Monroe Doctrine 1758-1831 James Monroe [Surya-uchcha] JM eldest daughter was partly raised in Paris due to her father's ambassador assignment. When dad became POTUS, her mom had debilitating illness, and daughter often served as her father's social entertainment hostess [5]. Both mother and daughter mimicked what they perceived as superior [uchcha-Surya] French style of socializing, which was haughty and distant. Unfortunately, they earned a reputation for aristocratic exclusivity and pretentious selfishness. Mom and daughter became unpopular in more plebian culture of Washington political society. Yet, the disdain of the hoi-polloi only increased their pride [uchcha-Surya-6].

When Surya has unsavory duties, such as being a dushtamshapati, then despite wonderful prospects for career in entertainment, politics, and drama, one may nevertheless experience some sorrow.

  • Raag Khamaj 1920-2012 sitarist Ravi Shankar [uchcha-Shukra-yuti-Surya-1] ++ Surya rogesha. RS suffered the premature death of his eldest son and the long denial of his unavowed elder daughter, musician Norah Jones.

Muscular Mangala resides in 5th from Chandra


Kuja occupies 5th from Chandra dynamic, direct, competitive, innovative creativity

Activates the sentimental, emotional drive to energize

· politics, drama, children, creativity, romance, gaming, artistic performance, celebrated roles, and entitlements. Generally quite political.

Often a dramatic person with sexual vitality and an emotionally energized thrust to occupy the center of attention. Supports successful ventures in politics, theatre, fashion, celebrity roles, personal uniqueness, entertainment, games-gambling, and creative initiatives.

Exceptional example showing emotionally-driven creativity

  • Genesis 1951- songwriter drummer Phil Collins [Guru-yuti-Kuja] [Shukra-yuti-Rahu] [1, attributes of personality, integrity, appearance]

  • POTUS-pair-34 Military Families 1896-1979 Mamie Doud Eisenhowerthrew legendary dance-parties to support her husband's career. Like most born under auspice of Ajaekapada-Chandra, MDE was a superb dancer. Kuja's impact is doubled in Kuja-ruled Mrigashiraa nakshatra ++ Mangala receives [dikbala] in bhava-10 . Mamie had an impact.

Chandra activates 5th-from-Chandra

Remarkably auspicious placement for spiritual guidance and poetic creativity = 9th-from-svakshetra

Intuition, clairsentience, meditative awareness, and divinatory perceptions are opened.

Often a world-wanderer. Comfortable in the company of philosophers and priests. Shelters many travellers.

When Chandra activates 5th-from-Chandra, asimultaneous Chandra-Mangala yoga can produce significant treasury.

Meena-Chandra is more likely to donate excess assets toward the welfare of religious concerns such as ashrama, monasteries, and temples than to keep cintamani * mani * money in one's own pockets. Enjoys treasury but does not much collect assets unless some other graha makes acquisitiveness.

Bantering Budha resides in 5th from Chandra


Budha occupies the fortunate, entertaining, gambling, speculative, child-enjoying 5th-from-Chandra. All the children but particularly the eldest are likely to be talkative, explanatory, descriptive, communicative messengers

Budha occupies emotionally-driven genius 5th from Chandra = narrative, explanatory, descriptive, diagramming, gesturing, messaging, commercial, collaborative, sibling-cohort-oriented creativity

  • POTUS-pair-18 Civil War 1826-1902 Julia Dent Grant [Dhanus-4-stabilizing beliefs] Legendary letters of correspondence kept officers connected during the USA Civil War,

  • Prodigals 1920-2007 writer-illustrator Ruth Bell Graham [governing-regulatory Arudra-2] children's book author


Generous Guru resides in 5th from Chandra


Guru occupies emotionally-driven genius 5th from Chandra = diverse, multiple-source, wisely abundant, doctrinal, theoretical creativity

From the perspective of the wifely-companion

Dhava-karaka Guru in 5th-from Chandra. Husband's behavior often follows a pattern of romantic, poetic, creative and procreative. Since Guru's drishti into Chandra indicates abundance and fertility, typically, there are Children from the marriage.

Feminine-figure feels emotionally appreciative toward husband-1-figure and his intelligence, even if material circumstances of the marriage are growth-challenging.

5th-from characteristics in the emotional relationship to the first husband. The 1st spouse likes children, gambling and games including speculative finance, romantic idealism, theatre, and politics. Often, the spouse needs center-stage attention; regal entitlements; applause, praise.

Shukra resides in 5th from Chandra


Shukra occupies emotionally-driven creative performance genius 5th from Chandra = musical, relationship-oriented, harmony-seeking, values-focused and wealth-accumulating entertainments

Shukra, from the perspective of the husbandly-companion

kalatra-karaka Shukra in 5th-from Chandra = 5th-from characteristics in the emotional relationship to the wife[s] . The wife needs much attention. She may be a brilliant genius and/or have an idealistic or dramatic "high maintenance" personality.

  • Theory of Relativity 1879-1955 Albert Einstein [uchcha] Shukra-yuti-Budha-[nicha-bhanga] Shukra-yuti-Surya-10 [uchcha] Shukra-yuti-Shani-10.AE was married twice. Lifepartner-1 was a trained physicist and writer. Although her contribution to AE's work was never publicly acknowledged, Einstein assigned Mileva Maric to receive all of his Nobel Prize money. Second marriage = 8th-from-Shukra= 5 romance, 3rd-from-3rd cousins.

Exceptions include Shukra-yuti-Ketu which generally signals a disinterest in the marriage partner or sidelining of the wifely-companion.

  • Moral Majority 1933-2007 Rev. Jerry Falwell [Shukra-yuti-Ketu] -4. Mrs. Falwell was a remarkablly opaque person considering the high-visibility of her husband in American public life. Shukra-4 indicates a home-based spouse. Ketu suggests disengagement.


Shani resides in 5th from Chandra



Shani occupies emotionally-driven genius 5th from Chandra = restricted, retarded, delayed, structured, status-seeking, disciplined, austere, elegant, limited creativity that responded first and foremost to the requirements of the social order

Stressed and pressured by celebrity. Children become a heavy responsibility, and children may be agents of social disapprobation.

  • UK-Queen 1926-2022 Elizabeth-2 [Shani-11 parivartamsha Kuja-1-uchcha] * Three of her four children declared their intention to divorce, against the proscriptions [Shani] of the Church of England and thus potentially legally [Shani] debarring themselves from inheriting the royal throne [5] . Eventually, QE arranged to change the law. However, her children's behavior [especially the eldest] is known to have placed great pressure upon her sense of formal decorum [Shani].

Although one's personal children may be an albatross, one may nevertheless serve masses of young people in a socially systemic fashion.

  • Yogaville 1914-2002 Swami Satchidananda Following SSS 1935 marriage [his age 21] he fathered two children. During Shani-Ketu bhukti , his young qife died and SSS undertook sannyas. Surrendering his children into the care of his own mother, sSS had little contact with his children-and-grandchildren thereafter [Shani-5]. Meanwhile, thousands of youthful devotee-students would become spiritual students requesting instruction [Mithuna] in rules for disciplined austerity and limitation [Shani].

May signal a postponing delay [but not denial] in the birth of children

  • France-Queen 1755-1793 Madame Deficit Marie Antoinette gave birth to a daughter in the eighth year of her marriage. For the first seven years of her unconsummated marriage, members of Marie's Hapsburg family had intervened with the disinterested King Louis [who favored fashion rather more than Feminine Nativities] to no avail. However, when a favored male courtier returned to Paris, the problem was resolved and the delayed legal heirs [Shani] were born. Nevertheless, three of the four died in childhood, and the survivor lost her royal title when the monarchy was abolished in 1794.

Beholden to politicians, gamblers, speculators, royalty, children, romantic lovers

The most favorable angle of public-private tension, at which the person achieves wisdom about one's fundamental emotional needs AND one's social obligations as a human citizen.

One is usually able to establish a balance between inner and outer viewpoints.

Overall a charismatic position which produces an increase in consciousness of the structure of divine intelligence, albeit through some struggles in the attempt to gain political approval [5] and complexities in the role of creativity and pro-creativity in the pursuit of approval.

May signal a delay in the arrival of children, or reduce the number of children, or indicate a source of pre-incarnationally planned stress regarding children. One may be separated via duty from the children - or from the fun, or the games, or the celebrities. Shani typically indicates a resource-scarcity struggle in raising the children which is most commonly a shortage of Time, but could also manifest as a shortage of attention or other blockage of the mechanisms of connection such as prevention of communication.

Either by their presence or by their absence,

  • Children, romantic idealism, celebrity, and politics become the primary instructional agents in the [akashic memory patterning] struggle to transform emotional ignorance into emotional wisdom. These agents of Shani teach Professor Shani's curriculum by imposing conditions of delay, scarcity, blockage, resistance, and onerous duties.

One may be separated from the children by social duties [Shani] or face charges of negligence toward them.

Feels emotional pressure to achieve social approval through celebrity performance, displays of genius, or political authority.

Children become heavy responsibility, but the results of accepting this burden are morally and spiritually uplifting, but usually this benefit is recognized only in the second half of life.

One must work hard to protect and nurture the children . One may find oneself in perpetual negotiation of the conflict between one's individual creative-intelligence relationship with one's children, versus professional and material responsibilities.

Yet, the results of staying with this conflict and working through each individual step of the process are indeed favorable over the longer termr.

Shani in 5th-from Chandra = 5th-from characteristics in the emotional relationship to the second husband. The 2nd spouse likes children , games, theatre, and politics. Often, the spouse needs to be engaged in creative arts, or to receive center-stage attention, applause.


RAHU resides in 5th from Chandra

politics, entertainment, creativity, children, fashion, courtly life, celebrity, games, genius


Rahu occupies emotionally-driven genius 5th from Chandra = extraordinary, ambitious, taboo-challenging creativity

Sudden and dramatic emotional changes causes by eruption of ambitious or privilege-seeking desires in one's own children, one's lovers, or one's theatrical personality.


Unorthodox, fascinating, mixed-culture patterns in the relationship to offspring

Often a very charming individual who delights in holding the center of attention.

  • Primary agents of personal and social disruption in life are one's children, one's romantic lovers, and one's own genius.

Disruption through Celebrity: one is changed and changes others via growth-challenge to cultural norms "on stage" , as the recipient of copious public attention and admiration

Emotional disruption caused by feeding upon the chaos of politics , literary creativity, salience or fame in performance arts.

  • Macedon-King o-Megos 356-323 BCE Alexander-III has enjoyed continuous cultural fame [5] for nearly 2400 years. His lovers were several but his most remarkable and definitive romance was with his boyhood companion, bodyguard and military second-in-command Hephaiston. Rahu-Kumbha-3 is exceptionally strong and casts a fiercely relationship-amplifying drishti upon Mangala-7.

Volatile, roller-coaster experience in romance and courtly love.

tendency to fall in love [romance, 5] in socially dramatic, barrier-bending, taboo-twisting circumstances

  • Be Here Now 1931-2019 Baba Ram Dass intensive romantic bhakti-love for Guru, watery trine between [nīcha-Mangala-1 parivartamsha Chandra-5-nīcha] ++ [Surya-yuti-Rahu] [9]

  • born into a financially, educationally, and politically elite family, Calif-Gov-pair 1955- broadcast journalist Maria O. Shriver [Shukra-yuti-Rahu] [2] fell in love with a beefcake body-builder who possessed a high school education

highly expedient, creative connection to politics, often based in the ambitions of the parents [Chandra] political foundation.

  • Pakistan-PM 1953-2007 Daughter of Destiny Benazir Bhutto was born into an intensely political family

  • Calif-Gov-pair 1955- broadcast journalist Maria O. Shriver [Shukra-yuti-Rahu] [2] = niece of POTUS-35 Profiles in Courage 1917-1963 JFK and USA-Sen-Mass 1932-2009 Teddy Kennedy born into a family of extensive political influence. On the basis [Chandra] of her family's power, was able to craft a successful "two-person" political career for her unlikely mate and herself.

  • POTUS-38 Time to Heal 1913-2006 Gerald R. Ford was alienated from his bio-dad, but his stepfather raised GRF with stability and security. Stepdad was a chief local Republican organizer.

  • USA-Sen-Tenn VPOTUS Climate Change 1948- Al Gore was born into the Gore political dynasty ++ [Somana-yuti-Guru] [2, family heritage] mutual-exchange with Rahu-6 ambitious pollution

  • the father of Friends 1969- drama-fashion Jennifer Aniston + [Shukra-yuti-Shani] [5] was a dramatic actor [5]

  • 14th Dalai Lama 1935- Policy of Kindness Tenzing Gyatso 's father was a local political personality and a compulsive gambler [compulsive Rahu-5]

Primary agents of personal and social disruption in life are one's children, one's romantic lovers, and one's own genius.

Disruption through Celebrity: one is changed and changes others via growth-challenge to cultural norms "on stage" , as the recipient of copious public attention and admiration

Emotional disruption caused by feeding upon the chaos of politics , literary creativity, salience or fame in performance arts.

KETU resides in 5th from Chandra


Ketu occupies emotionally-driven genius 5th from Chandra = absent, dispersed, disoriented, disregarding, wandering, pilgrimage-seeking creativity

Unlimited Ketu occupies the creative 5th-from-Chandra. Can be a signal of preference to not produce biological children but rather generate a higher creativity. Much depends upon Ketu's bhava and upon Ketu's planetary ruler.

If one chooses to welcome children, then often the eldest child is eccentric in character, perhaps apathetic about public life, or chooses an unconventional lifestyle. Much depends upon Ketu's bhava and upon Ketu's planetary ruler.

  • POTUS-pair-16 Illinois 1818-1882 Mary Todd Lincoln three of MTL's four sons died before reaching adulthood. Her eldest son and legal property manager tried to have his mother permanently committed to an insane asylum due to her financial mismanagement [Ketu's ruler Shukra-2 treasuries]. Ketu-12 helped MTL to escape to Europe [12 distant lands]. Yet, even having grieved the loss of her other three sons, robert's attempt to incarcerate her - which temporarily succeeded - permanently severed [Ketu] their mother-son relationship.

  • UK Queen 1819-1901 Empress Victoria-1 [dramatizing-displaying Dhaniṣṭha-1] [nicha-Guru-7 parivartamsha Shani-9] QV's eldest daughter was also named Victoria, called Vicky. Although adored by her parents within their German-speaking household, and especially cherished by her father, Vicky was given in marriage to a PRussian prince and left home aged 17. In PRussia, Vicky was ostracized [Ketu] due to her English mannerisms and her liberal opinions. QV exchanged daily letters with Vicky [3]. Yet, QV was said to have been often distancing in her criticisms of Vicky's life choices. After Vicky's husband died and her children married, Vicky became isolated and disoriented in a foreign land which had never accepted her as an Empress or as a person. She died a few months after QV.


  • General Electric 1847-1931 Thomas Edison tE's eldest child descended into mental illness. A serious alcoholic, the son had complained for years of abuse followed by abandonment from his work-obsessed [Rahu-6] absentee father. The extreme results were not only the product of Ketu in 5th-from-Chandra but also 5th-from-Chandra = bhava-12 ++ ruler of 5th-from-Chandra = Mangala-8.

  • Standard Oil 1874-1960 philanthropy John D. Rockefeller fathered six children with his first wife. The eldest of the six was his only daughter who eschewed public attention. She almost completed avoided the elite social behaviors into which she was born. By contrast, the other five children were her famous siblings, the Five Rockefeller Brothers who became attention-getting players in many spheres of public life including government, banking, and real-estate.


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